Talk:Chakat
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[edit] VCL Link
Do we really want a link to the VCL in this article? I mean, it's about as useful as linking to Geocities and saying "there are a number of pages about chakats on Geocities." It looks like shameless link advertising to me. Almafeta 20:24, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Encyclopedic
How exactly is this encyclopedic and not some sort of cruft? I've put a number of the -taur articles up for deletion, including felitaur, why shouldn't this article follow? -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 09:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- Because there is more to say to Chakat than only its definition. There is history behind it, and its name doesn't say everything about its nature. I found that article informative, at least. - Ekevu (talk) 11:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
This topic can be shortened only mildy and placed into the taur article. It would have much more significance there.
[edit] Is Not Suitable for Wikipedia?/Deletion
The reason given for the deletion suggestion is groundless. If there's an article for Vulcans then this is just as relevant.
- I agree, and I'd also like to add that the person that put the 'deletion' up is not a 'user' of Wikipedia, therefore I question the motive of 80.229.216.34 If wikipedia can have articles on Porn stars and Comic book heros, their is a place for a chakat article, for sure. I'm going to remove the Prod tag because I believe the tag has been placed in bad faith; Isn't the reasoning supposted to be posted on the talk page in detail anyways? --Honeymane 22:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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- It's not the same as Vulcans. It's better to compare them to Ogryn perhaps. Vulcans are fairly well known outside of their created media, while Chakats..and Ogryn are not. Ogryn are a part of Warhammer 40,000 Imperial Guard Armies, while Chakats are...created by a guy who's a part of a minority subculture. While I think it'd be a good addition to other articles on Furrydom, I am not quite sure it warrants it's own article. - SecondTalon
[edit] D&D connection?
"Chakats have been used as source material for D&D roleplaying wemic creatures. Mr Doove was interviewed for this purpose" The linked article states that " I was totally unaware of the existence of wemics or liontaurs at the time that I created the Chakat species." Outside of isolated D&D groups, I cannot see anyone seriously using any information on the Chakat to roleplay Wemics. Any connection is coincidental, and this statement should be removed. -SecondTalon
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- It is relevant information backed up by easily checkable reference, and proves that chakats are known about outside of furry interest groups. There isn't a single wikipedia guideline you can cite to excuse delete it. The sentence will stay, though if you believe it could be worded better you're welcome to rewrite it.ANTIcarrot 02:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Okay. Give me a reference beyond the one I cited where the creator said there was no connection. All I can find using the google keywords of Chakat D&D are Cayzle's Wemic Site which mentions Chakats a time or two, but mostly to describe the differences between Wemics and Chakats, and RPG Gateway which mentions them as a race in a Star Trek online game. Now, Cayzle's site is the most relative to this, but at best, there's a blurb about how Chakats are covered in fur and Wemics are not, and two links on the link pages (One in art, one in stories). I cannot find any information that gives the information needed to make a Dungeons and Dragons Chakat character, only that they are different from Wemics. -SecondTalon
- Not to mention that at no point in the cited interview does Mr. Doove make any mention at all of a standard way of using Chakat material as a basis for Wemics. Most conversions he seems unhappy with and states how they make poor race choices for roleplaying games in general, not D&D specifically. I went ahead and added a "likely" to the sentence, as other than his statement of seeing a few conversions, I have found no details on Chakats in Dungeons and Dragons.-SecondTalon
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- Well ignoring the fact that this is not a reliable source and these statements can't be verified the assertion that the creator has "heard of" a couple people playing Chakats in a D&D game is not relavent or notable no matter how one looks at it. This is ridiculous; you're really reaching here. Also, Wikipedia is not the place for speculation and I've edited the entry accordingly. NeoFreak 17:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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