User talk:Cg2112

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Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia; it is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. When you have the information, then feel free to do the article. Thank you. - Lucky 6.9 17:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Please stop. Next reposting means a permanent block for willful vandalism. - Lucky 6.9 17:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem; I think I gave you a fair warning especially in light of what looke like willful vandalism. - Lucky 6.9 17:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Inara BBS

A tag has been placed on Inara BBS, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company or website, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable. If you can indicate why Inara BBS is really notable, I advise you to edit the article promptly, and also put a note on Talk:Inara BBS. An admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles. You might also want to read our general biography criteria. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. To contest the tagging and request that admins should wait a while for you to assert his/her/their notability, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and then immediately add such an assertion. It is also a very good idea to add citations from reliable sources to ensure that your article will be verifiable. -- Merope Talk 18:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I've moved the article to User:Cg2112/Inara BBS per your request, please find a copy there -- Tawker 19:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Response to your message

I've asked the admin who deleted the article to make it available to you by posting it in your namespace (User:Cg2112/Inara_BBS). The notability standards on Wikipedia are not determined by "just one person"; rather, the community attempts to reach a consensus regarding policies like this. The guidelines for determining the notability of a website are located here. Unfortunately, I do not think that the BBS that you wrote about is notable enough to merit inclusion. However, if the website has received outside press coverage (from reliable sources), that may tip the scales.

I am very sorry that your first experiences at Wikipedia have not been positive. Here are some links that we try to guide new users toward; perhaps you will find them helpful.

If you have any questions, you can always leave a message on my talk page, or you can place {{helpme}} on your talk page and a friendly editor will be by as soon as possible. Let me know if there's anything more I can do. -- Merope Talk 19:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] inara bbs

Heya, I saw your note, I just thought that I would say, as a longtime user of ISCABBS, I can say that I have never heard of Inara BBS (I have used ISCA on and off since 1992, I still login daily) so it is hard for me to agree that this is a notable part of ISCA history, especially since Inara's BBS starting date is only a month ago. It's too new to be considered notable. In fact, I've looked over your article, and you claim to have the first since 1988. That is a very bold claim- Did you know there was a similar exodus from ISCA over to Eschwa BBS, actually. It went from ISCA -> Heinous BBS (bud fields, remember him?) -> Atrium -> Eschwa. To this day eschwa has about as many members online at any given time as ISCA. There is also utopia which has a large population of users as well. So your claims of 'first' are not well founded :) - Trysha (talk) 21:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] My take

I'd only heard of it because Howard Beale asked me about bugs in the copy of vDOC he downloaded from my site. They're fixed in the current version Utopia is running but he hasn't logged back on to find that I mailed him that I could make a copy of Utopia's active code (with the kickout bugs fixed among other small things) available to Inara or whoever.

Also, there are some inaccuracies in this article: "Inara BBS is the first text based BBS to gain popularity since 1989" is dead wrong on a variety of counts, and "longer alloable login time (100 hours, as opposed to the traditional four hours), and eXpress messages which are saved indefinitely (as opposed to per session)" were implemented not as unique improvements to Inara's codebase but rather, more or less, most likely by Firebird when he ported and extended the horrifying DOC codebase to make it viable on Linux and Solaris. To be truly accurate, the 100 hour limit is a bug workaround since at some point when users are logged in >100 hours, supposedly mysterious and evil bugs appear.

I hate to say it, but it's extremely unlikely that this article will fly on Wikipedia today if you read WP:NN. I'd love to have an article for Utopia Dammit! BBS and for one of the more important and useful web sites I run, but neither of them pass WP:NN for Internet sites at this point.

You're welcome to post your article on BBSWiki, though that site is primarily geared toward users of eschwa BBS and Utopia at this time. --Neurophyre(talk) 07:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)