Talk:Cenobite (Hellraiser)

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There is an entire storyline about the cenobites themselves, it includes their origins, their duties in hell, what they represent, all kinds of things! Can't someone find this and write it up? ARGH! YOU SUCK! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.134.44.77 (talk • contribs) 00:36, 23 February 2005.

If such a thing exists, it's fanon, and has no place in this article. This article is concerned with the film series and The Hellbound Heart, which offer little about the Cenobites' backgrounds. Pinhead is sketched in the second and third films, but is a minor character in the novella. The others aren't delineated at all. Canonblack 04:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Who sucks? If you're so damn concerned and knowledgable about it, write it yourself. 66.55.193.240 15:20, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Since no one else seems to want to take the initiative I will start adding backgrounds for the cenobites myself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.55.193.240 (talk • contribs) 15:20, 28 December 2005.

[edit] Whoops...

Sorry about deleting everything when I created that disambiguation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andy Christ (talk • contribs) 06:03, 17 January 2006.

[edit] Rewrite?

This article seems skewed almost entirely toward the film versions of the Cenobites. There is very little here that ties to the novella. Most of the "identities" or titles listed for the various Cenobites are fanon or studio marketing copy and are not used in the films themselves. The supposition that the Engineer in the novella is a Cenobite is technically correct (it is referred to as "the fifth Cenobite" who is mysteriously absent when Frank Cotton solves the puzzle — Frank was expecting the Engineer to appear with them), we are never told what exactly the Engineer is, and its powers, M.O. and appearance seem radically different from the other Cenobites. Among other properties:

  • The Engineer is the only one to have a name/title.
  • Cenobites have mutilated ash gray bodies, but the Engineer can pass for human (it runs into Kirsty in the street as she escapes the Cotton house) and can animate the bodies of the dead (it introduces itself to Kirsty while occupying Julia's corpse). Its only identifying mark is a ball of intense flickering energy where its head should be or its head seems engulfed in flame from certain angles.

I think this article needs a rewrite to differentiate between novella, Epic Comics and film depictions, and if the fanon/hype titles and identities are to be retained, then we need a section devoted to fanon contributions as well. As it stands, the article is of only trivial value because it's just a mishmash of random factoids without differentiation or source citations. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan site. Canonblack 13:44, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

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