Talk:Cebu
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[edit] Visaya origin
Can anybody site the source of the name Visaya, where is the source that says that Visaya came from Shri Vishaya ?--Jondel 09:07, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Visaya
Salve (Hello in Latin)! I 'm trying to find a link or source for the origin of the name Visaya. This is to be used in the Hinduism in the Philippines. I would appreciate any help. Gratias ago(Thank you)--Jondel 08:17, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Zaide (either Sonia or Gregorio; father-daughter tandem), Philippine History and Government. I'm not sure about the title of the textbook though. Jute 00:25, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
- This is very useful. Gatias ago.--Jondel 00:28, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Second Largest Group
On "Cebuanos being the second largest ethnic group... Tagalogs outnumbered them..." What is your source and basis? It hardly seems likely that Tagalogs would suddenly experience a growth spurt. It might be that there are more people speaking Tagalog now, but that doesn't mean that the people who speak Tagalog are Tagalog in the ethnic sense. Please cite your source for reference.
- Maayong adlaw! My source is the Philipine Census from 1960 - 2000.
- 1960 - Tagalog was 21% and Cebuano was 24%
- 1970 & 1975 - both Tagalog & Cebuano were at 24%
- 1980 - They counted differently just for this year. 30% of households (not people) were Tagalog-speaking. 24% for Tagalog.
- 1990 - 28% Tagalog individuals. 24% Cebuano.
- 1995 - 29.3% Tagalog. 23.2% Cebuano
- 2000 - 28.2% Tagalog. Severe undercounting for Cebuano, which was 15.5%! It is most likely 18 million, which is about 23.5% of the population.
- The large increase of Tagalog is largely due to the influx of migrants to Metro Manila. And the adoption of Tagalog in other parts of the country. --Chris S. 02:27, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Chris S. That's exactly my point. The Census is obviously based on the number of people who speak Tagalog, not on the actual number of people who are Tagalog. I think there's a confusion between Tagalog-speakers and Tagalogs as an ethnic group. But I am convinced with your numbers. Thanks. Jute 05:03, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Hi, Jute. The section of the census pertains to mother tongue statistics. Meaning, they ask what is the native language of the person being counted. People who speak Tagalog as a native language are at about 21 million. On the other hand, people who speak Tagalog as a 2nd language is at over 60 million. --Chris S. 12:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Hello! According to the latest ethnologue (http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=PH), there are 20 million native speakers of Cebuano and 14.5 million native speakers of Tagalog. I would tend to believe SIL more than our government when it comes to surveys. SIL is probably more experienced in conducting and analyzing these kinds of surveys. They are probably also more objective. I'll do some editing the soonest I have time. --Nino Gonzales 09:28, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Cite some problems with the province?
Look, I'm all for promoting our beloved island of Cebu, but this article doesn't show most of our problems as a province, such as deforestation, pollution, and drug trafficking. Anyone want to add this information on the article?
[edit] Suggestion to break up the article
Mga kauban,
I think the article is too large and unwieldy now to be just in one page. I suggest that we summarize the section and transfer them to their individual pages.
I wanted to add Cebuano literature here, but since it is too big to be included in this, I just put it in another page.
--Bentong Isles 08:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
