Talk:Caversham, Berkshire

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Contents 1 Town Status 2 Upper Caversham 3 Pronunciation 4 When did Caversham become part of Reading?

[edit] Town Status

I'm interested that Caversham is described (and categorised) as a town. It isn't in the (admittedly not exhaustive) List of towns in England; it doesn't (to the best of my knowledge) hold a market; and a Google search reveals no sign of a town charter. All of which suggests it is really a village rather than a town. Can anybody provide a source or justification for this claim?. -- Chris j wood 18:15, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi Chris. As of just now, [www.caversham.org.uk] calls Caversham a village. Perhaps we need a category:Suburbs in Berkshire ? Ian Cairns 23:24, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi Ian. Maybe. I'd be happy to stick with Village for Caversham because of its previous history as an fairly independent place. I find it a bit more difficult to see doing that with say Whitley. Actually I would have preferred we didn't go down this Category:Towns in x/Villages in x route. -- Chris j wood 23:48, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

On second thoughts, I think Category:Suburbs of Reading may be more natural than Suburbs in Berkshire. -- Chris j wood 23:50, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Upper Caversham

Isn't the proper name for "Upper Caversham" "Caversham Heights"?

Without looking at a map my impression is that the Heights is some smaller area on the top of the hill (and should be mentioned in the article). Certainly, when living in Lower Caversham, we used to speak of Upper Caversham but while I don't think it included CPV, I'm not really sure where its boundaries lie. Part of the problem is snobbishness as people like the sound of "Upper Caversham" and might call where they live by that name, even if there is little historic precendence. What does a map tell you? --Douglas 19:14, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

'sham' rhymes with 'pram'? 'Plum', surely. I've never heard anyone rhyme it with pram. --Deadlock 14:22, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

In British English, both "sham" and "Caversham" rhyme with "pram". Dan100 (Talk) 11:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

not if you live in the latter it doesn't, and it doesn't even rhyme with "plum" either! As with many placenames in England (Petersham and Horsham being examples) the "am" bit is hardly pronounced at all. It is more like "Caversh'm". Peter Shearan 14:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] When did Caversham become part of Reading?

The article used to state that Caversham became part of Reading in 1911, but one of a series of edits by User: 86.131.98.96 has changed this to 1974. I havn't got access to any source material right now, but this sounds way too late. I recall reading that one of the conditions of Reading absorbing Caversham was that Reading agreed to build Reading Bridge, and that was built in 1923, making the 1911 date sound much more reasonable. I suspect the anonymous editor has confused the absorbtion of Caversham by Reading with a boundary change about that time that included what is now Caversham Park Village in Caversham (and hence Reading). Without harder sources I won't revert this change, however. -- Chris j wood 11:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

1974 is just a straightforard falsehood. The 1911 date is correct. I will try to find source for it. Morwen - Talk 12:00, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

http://www.berkshirerecordoffice.org.uk/collections/charter/charter_story5.htm Ian Cairns 12:07, 6 October 2005 (UTC)