Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/British rivers

Rename to Category:Rivers in Great Britain to match the subcats (Rivers in Foo). -Kbdank71 14:50, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• support
  • Sorry, the above is me forgetting to sign. Thryduulf 23:17, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Support moving to category:Rivers of the United Kingdom. — Instantnood 21:57, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
• Support - BanyanTree 00:01, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Hmmm must be a blue moon - I agree with Instantnood! :) But with two provisos: 1) Consensus for most natural geographic forms is "X of Foo", but rivers are being treated differently because, by their very nature, they tend to go over national boundaries; 2) "Rivers of the United Kingdom" would, by definition, include rivers in Northern Ireland, which "Rivers of Great Britain" would not. The category name should reflect the intention of whether or not to include these rivers. Grutness|^hello? 01:09, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Personally, I think all river categories should be Rivers of Foo. This should also be United Kingdom, not Great Britain. (So, Rivers in/of the United Kingdom.)-- Beland 02:04, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• I think it should be Great Britain not United Kingdom, becuase for most (all?) geographic and flora/fauna purposes, including rivers, the island of Ireland is treated as a whole, separate from the Great Britain articles. Thryduulf 15:21, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Rename to United Kingdom AND create a Rivers of Great Britian if there are enough rivers solely in one part of it. A river that crosses national boundaries can obviously be in multiple categories. MadreBurro 18:06, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • given that Great Britain is an island, I doubt there will be any that flow in both it and N.I. However, creating separate "Rivers of England", "Rivers of Scotland" and "Rivers of Wales" makes sense (if they don't exist already). All those (plus "Rivers of Northern Ireland") would be natural subcategories of "Rivers of the United Kingdom". Grutness|^hello? 01:02, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment: Agree. category:Rivers of Northern Ireland can be a subcategory, together with category:Rivers of the Republic of Ireland, of category:Rivers of Ireland, and at the same time as subcategory, together those of England, Scotland and Wales, of category:Rivers of the United Kingdom. — Instantnood 05:40, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
• Support. Should be "Great Britain" because no rivers flow in both "Great Britain" and "Ireland". Gene Nygaard 18:14, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Should be Rivers of the United Kingdom because it is a state entity with main category at category:United Kingdom. The whole island of Ireland is not independent, and the Republic of Ireland should not be allowed to appropriate the rivers of the six counties of Northern Ireland any more than Portuguese rivers should be included in Spanish rivers. Individual rivers can be included in two national menus where necessary in this case, just as in any other. Wincoote 01:10, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• SUPPORT should be however: 132.205.15.43 14:31, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • • Rivers of the Republic of Ireland
    • Rivers of Northern Ireland
    • Rivers of Wales
    • Rivers of Scotland
    • Rivers of England
  • Rivers of the United Kingdom
    • Rivers of Northern Ireland
    • Rivers of Wales
    • Rivers of Scotland
    • Rivers of England
  • Rivers of Great Britain
    • Rivers of Wales
    • Rivers of Scotland
    • Rivers of England
  • Rivers of Ireland
    • Rivers of the Republic of Ireland
    • Rivers of Northern Ireland
  • Comment: Agree with 132.205.15.43. — Instantnood 15:29, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
  • comment: The above summarises much more effectively what I was thinking of further up this debate. If you wanted to you could even add categories for the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, and make all of them subcategories of Rivers of the British Isles! Grutness|^hello? 00:37, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Support change to 132.205.15.43's suggested section. James F. (talk) 01:37, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)