Talk:Catholic Church in Thailand

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I am searching the geographical extent of the dioceses. Catholic-hierachy gives the population and area, but not which provinces are covered. So far I could only find:

• Surat Thani: Chumphon, Krabi, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Narathiwat, Pattani, Phang Nga, Phattalung, Phuket, Prachuap Khiri Khan, Ranong, Satun, Songkhla, Surat Thani, Trang, Yala
• Chantaburi: Chachoengsao, Chanthaburi, Chonburi, Nakhon Nayok, Rayong, Prachinburi, Srakaeo, Trat

As long as the dioceses borders coincide with the provincial borders it may be possible to guess from the above numbers which provinces may belong to it, but I prefer a more reliable source. andy 11:59, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I found the map I searched at http://www.aidscatholic.com/thaimap.html - strangely google didn't index that site, but in yahoo it was the third hit. Google doesn't rule anymore... andy 11:02, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well, nearly - the detail maps contradict a bit, in the detail maps the provinces Nakhon Nayok and Chachoengsao are added to both Bangkok and Chanthaburi. andy 18:49, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

At least the boundary between Bangkok and Chanthaburi does not follow the provincial boundaries, but instead the course of rivers - most likely the Nakhon Nayok River and Bang Pa Kong River. andy 21:32, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

http://thaicath.net/EDioceses.php says it's part of Chachoengsao and Amphoe Banna of Nakhon Nayok. andy 11:41, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

And now there's finally a logical explanation of why Ban Na belongs to Bangkok, while the rest of Nakhon Nayok to Chanthaburi. At the time of the creation of the Apostolic Vicariate Chanthaburi the province Nakhon Nayok was split - most part belonged to Prachinburi while Ban Na belonged to Saraburi. As Prachinburi was added to the new vicariate, Ban Na stayed with Bangkok, even after Nakhon Nayok was reestablished. Later Saraburi became part of the vicariate Nakhon Sawan, and only Ban Na remained. andy 12:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Martyrs of Thailand

As there's no page for the Martyrs of Thailand yet, I'm putting this here. I have a number of images from the Our Lady of the Martyrs of Thailand Shrine (สักการสถาน พระมารดาแห่งมรณสักขี ประเทศไทย) in Mukdahan. At the shrine there is a series of 14 carved stone panels hanging on the outer wall of the shrine, depicting the story of the martyrs. Would there be interest in my uploading these panels, and if so, does anyone have the idea of what the copyright status would be? An artist's name and date (and location?) is present on each of the panels: Ritthirong Samutprakarn 2002 (not sure if Samutprakarn is given here as surname or the artist's location), but I can't find any information about him. I took a picture of each panel individually, so they're quite high resolution in their original format.

As the author of the photographs, I have uploaded one picture, to illustrate my point and ask your opinions. However, obviously the work depicted in the photograph is not mine. Any advice/response is most welcome. rikker04 04:37, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

IANAL. As far as I know the rules, if these plates are in public you are free to take a photo of the whole site. However if you'd take the single plates, it is like a reproduction (similar to making a scan of a book cover) and then it would be a copyright violation. There are even such crazy things like the Eiffel tower at night cannot be reproduced because the one who built the lighting copyrighted that one. The best place to ask for comments would be the Village Pump at Commons, which would anyway be the best place to upload free pictures to make them available in all Wikimedia projects in all languages. andy 11:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

PawYiLee. Next time I'm up there, I'll ask about pictures of the panels. Note the north wall has The Stations of the Cross in gold, echoed on the south with plain panels telling the story of the martyrs. See http://www.catholichomepage.com/church_in_thailand.htm for a picture of the church's interior. Another version of the story is at http://www.sspxasia.com/Newsletters/2002/Oct-Dec/Seven_Blessed_Martyrs_of_Thailand.htm

but is in error stating that SONGKHON is the only catholic village in Thailand. There is one 40 klicks north of Yasothorn hosting the Church of Archangel Michael, claimed to be the largest wooden church in Thailand, and a designated "UNseen -in Thailand" tourist site.Lee 08:00, 15 September 2006 (UTC)PawYiLee

PS see also http://thehands.org/martyrs.htm Lee 08:07, 15 September 2006 (UTC)PawYiLee