Talk:Cassette culture
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Moved non-NPOV comment:
- This led to the foisting of much self indulgent uninteligible rubbish being foisted upon an unsuspecting world in the name of 'creativity', yet at the same time much music that arose from the cassette culture scene was imaginative, challenging, beautiful and ground breaking, standing up more than adequately beside much output released through more 'conventional' channels.
How about the tape-Beatles?
[edit] Cassette Culture legacy
- If Cassette Culture is an outgrowth/extension/progression of the Mail Art movement of the 70s, isn't the proliferation and popularity of mp3s and self-burned cds simply the next logical step in this movement?
- Aren't mp3s, the Internet, and cdrs just the next method by which this culture is propagated and extended?
- Are we confusing distribution methods (postal service, mp3, cassette, cdr) with the actual movement? By which I mean, the postal service provides more than just distribution for Mail Art, cassettes can be used for a wide variety of different things, and mp3s can be used for more than just recorded music. 'Cassette Culture' embodies more than just the means by which the art is delivered.
Your thoughts?
- In my experience, at least in the modern garage punk scene, the previous role of cassettes is being replace by vinyl and mp3's; CDs as a whole are not an appropriate inheritor of cassette culture, and in fact aren't very popular in the community. Mainly, I think it has to do with the cost of CDs in stores ($15/CD vs. $8 for an LP), the fact that they're not very durable (scratch, scratch), the cost of in-home CD players vs. turntables, and the old-style feel and sound (real or imagined) of records. With the advent of mp3s and portable mp3 players, CDs aren't really necessary at all, even home-made ones.
- By way of example, most of the bands I come into contact with don't even release their music on CD at all. The Spits, for example, released their first album on CD, and haven't made another release on CD since, even though their popularity has increased.
- As for postal service vs. cassettes, I don't think we're making a confusion here. True, "Mail art" is important, but cassette trading was as much a matter of person to person interaction as it was long-distance interaction. The "cassette" aspect of it is important because of the nature of cassettes; they can be recorded, re-recorded, copied directly, &c., and for most people of the time they were the only recordable media available (1/4 inch was expensive).
- But, these are just thoughts. Since you didn't sign the comment, I'm not sure how old it is, but I'd be interested in your counter-point. siafu 00:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
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- Ah, my apologies for not signing my previous comments. I agree with you completely regarding the cost-prohibitive nature of CDs and their disuse in "cassette culture". My comments refer to "self-burned cds" and "cdrs", which are more in the spirit of "taping and trading" as they are cheap and increasingly disposable.
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- We expressed similar opinions in different ways with the "distribution method" question. My original statement is making the claim that there might be confusion between the postal service (the distribution method, in this case) and the movement called "Mail Art". The same can be said for file-trading sites, or the internet in general (the distribution method) and the act of "file-trading". "Cassette Culture" does not, in my opinion, depend on a physical cassette but only on an affordable means to disseminate information (mp3s, cdr, etc). In other words, the important thing is the act of distributing the art, not the method by which it is distributed. That is the confusion I think I may be noticing.
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- The "cassette" part of Cassette Culture is, to me, simply the way in which artists were able to share and trade art.
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- When it all gets boiled down, I think we are talking about similar ideas using different terms. Cash Nexus 02:25, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
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- It seems that way indeed. siafu 18:01, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Anti Capitalist POV
This article badly needs to remove some of it's NON-NPOV anti-capitalist rhetoric.
[edit] Merge from Tape trading?
The tape trading article, shorter than this one, seems to have some significant overlap. Should it be merged and redirected here? — Catherine\talk 07:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
