Talk:Caning in Singapore

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Is there any information on the amount of damage caning can result in? I checked the wiki page for general "caning", but could not find any information on this either. I am interested in what kind of "pain" this form of punishment is capable of dealing, and how successful it is in detering future crimes. 68.102.37.191 08:01, 20 August 2006

Would you please sign your additions with four tildas (~) so that everyone can follow the thread of the conversation and keep comments below the message box above? As for caning, damage is related to the type of instruments with which the beating is administered. China traditionally flogged with two sorts of bamboo - the heavier bamboo being a more serious punishment than the lighter. Those bamboos could split the skin, scar permanently and in fact kill. Singapore uses a light rattan I believe. I was told that in the Fay case that the skin broke and there was blood, but it is unlikely there would be permanent scars. I am sure there are any number of people who for the right price would show you just how painful it is. In the Fay case it was not that successful considering his criminal career afterwards - something Lee Kwan-yew seems to think justifies caning Fay. Singapore has a very low crime rate, but what causes that is impossible to know. Lao Wai 09:49, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I think I read those crimes Fay committed were in the U.S. or elsewhere, and not in Singapore. An interesting point that you said it Fay's caning would not cause permanent scars, since his defense claimed that his crime would not fit the punishment, since it WOULD cause permanent physical and emotional scars. (Well we don't know about permanent emotional part, but I bet he certainly did not return to Singapore). I was also interested in the method of their caning. Specifically, I heard that if the criminal receiving the caning passes out, they revive them with smelling salts, before resuming the caning. I thought I would find that information in the wiki, but that might be a myth. Also they bring in a caning expert with 'xx' amount of skill. All interesting stuff. 68.102.37.191 22:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know where you read that but it is not true. It is rare that countries allow prosecution of someone for 'crimes' commited in other countries. Read the Michael P. Fay article for more information... Nil Einne 12:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

There really isnt much to respond to the above comment when it is devoid of viable sources. And what is deemed "interesting" is only relative to how ignorant the reader is. Singapore's methods of caning is not that different from most contemporary methods, if not slightly more humane.--Huaiwei 13:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)