Talk:Canberra International Airport

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[edit] International traffic

The article presently says:

The airport today can handle traffic from Melbourne International or Sydney International (Kingsford Smith International), where weather conditions restrict landings, and is the focus of a third major hub in South-Eastern Australia for international traffic.

Is this true (especially the last part)? --ScottDavis 15:29, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

  • I think you're right Scott. While the airport owners might aspire to one day being the 'third major hub for international traffic in SE Aust', there is very very little sign of any international traffic at Canberra 'International' (with heads of overseas Governments being the possible only exceptions. I think that even the Prime Minister leaves from Sydney when he goes on international trips. It's possible that Newcastle and Avalon receive more international traffic than Canberra. Canberra is capable of handling Boeing 747s and can handle traffic from Sydney or Melbourne, but I doubt that this happens very often, at least not for international flights. (I think that the last 747 to land at Canberra was carrying the Chinese President).

User:Adz 11:19, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I seem to recall I heard that the runway is long enough to carry large jets such as the 747, but it's limited width means that excesive garbage is blown off the grass on either side nesistating cleaning of the runway. Therefor the airport while technically able to carry 747s is not able to do so on a regular basis. I wonder if this information is available anywhere on the web, or if it is a load of badly remembered garbage? This is also mentioned in the Canberra article. Martyman 03:53, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
you may be right. A while ago, i think when Bill Clinton visited, the runway wasn't long enogh for 747s, so he had to fly here in some other sort of plane. Realising that this was an issue for heads of state, they extended the runway, and last year the presidents of the USA and China landed in thier 747s. ... but they may have needed to clear the runway first. I think the point you raise warrants some research. Maybe best to remove it from the main Canberra article for now and leave it in here until somebody is able to clarify it. Adz 04:03, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I've seen 747s (or whatever Air Force One is called) land and take off at Canberra. The length of the runway is more than ample for safe operation. I understand that the runway has been widened since privatisation and is able to carry 747s without debris fouling the runway. However, it seems that there may be various political games being played here. Both Bushs and Clinton visited Canberra in their jumbos, along with associated widebodies, but the Queen was denied permission to fly a chartered BA 747 in and out of Canberra in 2000, supposedly on safety grounds. Instead her aircraft landed in Sydney and she was flown to Canberra on one of the government's light VIP transports. I'll have to see if I can find a source for this.
It would be interesting to see how Canberra would cope with an influx of international flights if traffic were diverted from Sydney. The facilities for passenger handling, baggage handling and customs and immigration processing are quite inadequate for anything like a fraction of Sydney's routine capacity, quite apart from the problem of where to park the aircraft. --Jumbo 04:12, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
As of March 2006, the runways can land 747s - but each landing degrades the runway pavement, to the point where they can only land a limited number of 747s per year. They're expanding and upgrading the runways to be able to land 747s on a more regular basis. Source: http://www.canberraairport.com.au/pl_rw_mdp.htm 202.161.13.40 22:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stub status?

This article currently has {{canberra-stub}} and {{Airport-stub}} at the bottom. However, it does not appear that this article is, in fact, a stub. It may be in need of some expansion, but i don't think it qualifies as a stub. If there are no dissenting voices between now and the next time i think of it (maybe a week) i will remove them. -- Fudoreaper 21:57:44, 2005-08-25 (UTC)

Looking at the definition of stub, it appears that 3-10 sentences are a standard, more for more complex articles. I'd say that this article passed stub status sometime back, as there is a reasonable amount of information. I'll remove the stub status next time I edit, as I'm planning on putting in some more information on history. --Jumbo 22:04, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Sounds fine, Jumbo. I'll leave this in your hand. :) -- Fudoreaper 01:57:44, 2005-08-26 (UTC)
Thanks! I've been looking at other articles and the Canberra International Airport site for information. I've asked CIA to review and possibly expand the article. More pictures and a logo would be handy. --Jumbo 02:14, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I agree. Its more than a stub. I'm happy for to to remove it. Adz 02:39, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] CIA response

I've had the following response from Canberra International Airport:

thank you for your email, which was passed to me for attention.
Let me first congratulate you on the effort you have obviously put into making the listing comprehensive and totally up-to-date.
The only slight error I can see in the entire listing is that Brindabella fly 3x daily to Newcastle and that they start next week a new daily (mon-Fri) service to Traralgon in the LaTrobe Valley.
I attach an aerial photo of the airport for your information. Unfortunately I can't help with the logo - we have a policy of not providing our logo externally.
Hope this is of assistance,
Alex Ananian-Cooper
Manager Aviation and Environment
Canberra International Airport

I'll upload the picture under the GFDL for the time being, but I would like guidance from others on the status of this image. --Jumbo 07:07, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Jumbo, I think the bast tag to put on the photo would be {{CopyrightedFreeUse}} --nixie 04:28, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, nixie. Bless you for that! This whole copyright business is a puzzle. I've modified the image accordingly. --Jumbo 04:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Remove canberra category

I've removed the Canberra category for this article as part of the effort to tidy up the Canberra/ACT categories]]. (See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canberra#Category:Canberra) It's felt that the Canberra category is too cluttered and that as it is a small jurisdiction, many of the articles relating to the City should probably sit under Category:Australian Capital Territory and its subcategories. If there is strong feeling that airports should contain the category that relates to the city they are in then perhaps this warrants some discussion, either here, on on the Canberra project talk page. Adz 07:22, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Brand Depot

I have tagged the Brand Depot article to be merged with the Canberra Airport article at the Brand Depot page. I feel that the proposed development is not yet notable and does not warrant an article of its own. I think a mention here will suffice, at least until it is built, and possibly after the fact as well, depending on its notability when it is complete. -- Adz|talk 00:45, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brand Depot

Brand Depot is independent of the Airport - probably best in my opinion to leave it separate, just as you would leave any other companies associated with the Airport separate.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Webfive (talk • contribs) .

But as an individual article it may not pass wikipedia's requirements for notability and therefore be deleted all together. Wikipedia is not a venue for free advertising. --Martyman-(talk) 07:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I agree. It's just going to be a shopping centre, and not a big one. It's notability comes from the fact that it is situated on airport land and is consequently not subject to normal planning measures. --Jumbo 05:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Managed by...

According to the CIA website, it is managed by Capital Airport Group Pty Limited. --Jumbo 20:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

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