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[edit] Election related news

CBC was not #1. CTV was. [unsigned]

The day after the election, two ads were run, one from each network. CTV's numbers were for their main channel and did not include CTV Newsnet; CBC's numbers included Newsworld, the equivalent 24-hour news network. Thus, coverage from the CBC drew greater numbers than the equivalent coverage from CTV. To parse the figures otherwise would be disingenuous. -JTBurman 23:09, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Macleans is running a story on this issue, which adds detail. See it here
-JTBurman 20:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Using Firefox and Adblock

I'm wondering what others think of adding a few lines to point people in the direction of Adblock and FF, in the case of Canadian citizens, we have already paid for the site, and should not have to see ads. Lorax 01:03, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

To be accurate, you haven't paid for the site, at least not all of it. Canadian citizens only pay for 2/3rds of the CBC's cost. The government hasn't covered the entire budget of the CBC in decades.

So CBC has had to make up the difference. Hence the advertising on the web site. Zedcaster 06:15, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

It's also not Wikipedia's place to promote particular software or provide free advertising in this way. We have to let users make their own decisions about advertising on websites, and how they want to respond to that — the NPOV rule pretty much demands that Wikipedia not express personal opinions that such a matter is objectively a bad thing. Bearcat 19:47, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, that's a relevant argument Bearcat. Debate about the misappropriation of resources within the CBC is best kept on the blogs. :) Lorax 01:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unauthenticated recordings?

If the recording added on 2006-03-17 is quite clearly an actor, does that mean it should be removed as a possible origin for this nickname, or perhaps just noted as such? The introduction voice in the recording sounds suspiciously like one of the character voices created by Allan McFee, a CBC broadcaster well known for his spoofs. But of course, this is ... unauthenticated as well.
--ghoti 13:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

The clip in question isn't verifiable as the origin of the nickname; it seems to be ripped from a quiz show of some kind, and from the wording it would appear that the clip dates from a time when the belief that the network had been so identified on air already existed. It does sound a bit like Allan McFee, you're right — but yeah, it's hard to verify that. That's precisely the problem with this; the only thing we really know about the Broadcorping Castration thing is that there's a documentable belief that it happened. Bearcat 19:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] scra

there is no union called "SCRA"

it's called SCRC

[edit] CBC going totally public

Recently there has been talk about the Canadian government wanting to make CBC 100 per cent public. They want CBC to stop running ads and showing professional sports. If anyone can find a story on this, then it would be a good item to have on the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fishhead2100 (talk • contribs).

You're probably thinking about a senate committee report that made those recommendations. The government itself - i.e. Stephen Harper and the Conservatives - are not bound by it and certainly have not announced any policy to that effect. — stickguy (:^›)— home - talk - 03:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pacific Broacast Centre

Anyone here able to write about the Vancouver HQ; maybe I don't have its proper name right...I would have thought it already had an article. Needed for linking off various Vancouver pages.Skookum1 17:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

It's called the CBC Regional Broadcast Centre in Vancouver. However, I don't think it deserves its own article.  Denelson83  21:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Terrorist Attack?

Should there really be a section dedicated to a supposed plot by a bunch of idiots who were caught before they had any chance succeeding? It seems a little sensationalist to even bother mentioning that the CBC was one of the targets of the attack, let alone giving it its own section.

I say the section should be removed and, at best, added as a small sentence elsewhere in the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.193.85.30 (talk • contribs) 23:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeh its marginal - it is of note, but it should be cut down and folded into some other category. I would say it should be put into a history section--Omnicog 14:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Those charged with supposedly plotting to bomb the CBC, among other targets, have not yet been found guilty and it may be that this "plot" was never true. Innocent until proven guilty applies despite these individuals supposed devotion to Islam.

[edit] Cosmic Butterfly Corporation

Regarding this logo:

In one episode of Wayne and Shuster the CBC is referred to as the "Cosmic Butterfly Corporation" based on this logo- since one of the other logos is noted as being nicknamed the "Exploding Pizza" perhaps it's worth noting this mention of the butterfly logo as well? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.100.36.249 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kids Program

CBC Radio Canada has a French Children's Program that airs on Access (Channel 9); it's about a girl and a boy (about 5 and 4 years old) that play together, and the show features a lunchbox with cucumber eyes and a watermelon mouth. Can someone please tell me what this program is? I can't tell from all the french in it.Ohyeh 18:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Closed captioning

I added a section on CBC’s history in, and its sometimes-unique requirements for, closed captioning, citing sources all the way.
– joeclark 17:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name Change of Article

Does anyone else think that the name of this article shoud be moved to CBC/Radio-Canada instead of just being Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, since the article is refering to the umbrella brand and not just one specific entity, either the CBC or SRC? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.198.108.51 (talk • contribs) 23:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Nope. --  Denelson83  00:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
In the 2005 edition of the WRTH, CBC/Radio-Canada is listed as the "Canadian Broadcasting Corporation/Société Radio-Canada", however I don't know if this would be too long for an article name. At least it's not an English translation of something like how for the longest time possible the ARD article was mentioned as the "Alliance of the Public Broadcasters of Germany" when it was more known as ARD. -Daniel Blanchette 18:09, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accusation of bias

Saying that the CBC has been accused of bias is all well and good, but citations are needed to show where this is the case. Saying that "many people criticize the CBC" is just not enough of a foundation for this section. Captain canada

[edit] Personalities

The list is missing Zintar Sehrs (sp?) The name is impossible to spell, but I'm sure someone knows it, and can add it to the list.Landroo 14:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

The number of personalities in the "present" list needs to be a multiple of five, for aesthetic reasons. --  Denelson83  19:13, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
The trouble with someone like Zintar Sehrs (and bravo, according to this CBC transcript you did get the name right) is that the CBC's own website doesn't actually have a profile of him (they don't have a profile of Robert Fisher, either, but at least there's other stuff about him on the web since he used to be with Global), and even a Google search brings up very little. So while we could theoretically list him, we have almost no realistic prospect of actually being able to write an article about him anytime soon, and the ability to write an article that we can wikilink to is a major consideration in who gets listed there or not. Bearcat 18:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

More recently, there was a bit of an ongoing revert war over whether the list should be replaced with a text link to the category for CBC personalities. As a compromise, I've moved the list of personalities to a separate list article, List of Canadian Broadcasting Corporation personalities. That's arranged as a straight list, so multiples of five are no longer an issue; consequently, I added Zintar Sehrs as well. Though if somebody wants to actually write an article about him, I wish them lots of luck finding any actual information. Bearcat 19:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

The name is actually Dzintars Cers (Reporter/Editor in English Radio News). I've updated the list. Google finds a few hits for that name, if anyone wants to try to assemble a page.
Heck, we could always go with his name in IPA, /'zɪn.tɑɹ sɝz/. :) --  Denelson83  17:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, gotcha. You gotta admit, it is a very hard name to spell if you're exposed to it mainly on the radio. Bearcat 23:12, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1940-58 logo & Newfoundland

Seen on this page, the logo said to have been used between 1940 and 1958 includes Newfoundland coloured as if to include it in the Canadian federation. However, Newfoundland was joined to the federation in 1949. Does anyone know if, before 1949, the logo did not colour Newfoundland? --Liberlogos 06:55, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] All night programming

This is probably not worth mentioning in the article but CBC has started to be on-air 24/7. Was there any announcement made whether this is permanent or not? I've only noticed that this was the case a couple of weeks ago.

[edit] Privately owned stations and publicly conducted edit wars

Could we possibly hash this one out here on the talk page rather than lapsing into an edit war over it? Thanks. Bearcat 23:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite for style, 2006.11.22

I did a paper-edit and a rewrite for style. I changed not many facts. As ever when someone edits an entire article, the advice is to remain calm. Not only can you revert the whole thing, which would be imprudent based on the improvements I made, you can reverse anything you can demonstrate warrants reversal.

[edit] Redundancies removed

  • Linking Canada "from east to west to north” (and previous graf).
  • “Today, the CBC operates several radio, terrestrial television and cable television networks, in both English and French, as well as a number of Aboriginal languages in the North.”
  • “The CBC’s radio networks do not air commercial advertising.” Moved similar sentence up.
  • “The September 11, 2001 attacks and key events surrounding them”: Already mentioned.
  • “The language barrier, in addition to other cultural differences, keeps viewers from tuning to American channels in as large numbers as in English-speaking Canada.”
  • CMG “represented on-air, production and administrative personnel in those territories” and we only have to be told once.


[edit] Requests for repair

  • NWI: Contradiction between “Newsworld International (or NWI), an American cable channel which rebroadcast much of the programming of CBC Newsworld” and “However, the CBC continued to program NWI, with much of its programming simulcast on the domestic Newsworld service.” Can someone fix?
  • Need confirmation on second logo: “The version shown here was used by Radio-Canada, while the CBC used a version with the legends transposed.” Proof? Photo?
  • “Nonetheless, some personalities, chiefly journalists and particularly in foreign news bureaux, appear on both English- and French-language networks”: I know it’s true, but can someone come up with a list?
  • What is the Unicode character in Gwichʼin? Why isn’t it an apostrophe? (You’d think I’d know this, but I don’t.)
  • “and recently announced plans to buy the outstanding majority (82%) of Documentary Channel, pending CRTC approval.” OK, what does the 82% refer to? The amount CBC didn’t own before the announced acquisition or the amount it will own afterward?
  • “ADR Database, a tri-medial project”: “Tri-medial” isn’t a word. What does this refer to? Removed provisionally.
  • Source, please: “The head of the CBC and the commissioners of the CRTC are all selected by the Prime Minister, causing some private broadcasters to suspect favouritism for the CBC.”
  • Need more rigour in italicizing French network names and leaving English ones in roman. I caught most of those.
  • Much less use of “as well,” please. Just use “and” or write two sentences.
  • “Accusations of bias” section should go somewhere else, but I don’t quite know where.
  • Perhaps terms like “CBC Newsworld” and “crown corporation” are linked too many times.

[edit] Corrections

  • Removed mediumwave, which was immediately explained as being “AM radio” anyway.
  • No longer true: Public funding “amounts to more than twice the corporation’s total advertising revenue.” Removed while I look up the reference from Rabinovitch in the last two weeks.
  • Removed “www.” prefixes of titles of Web sites; added capitalization.
  • Removed “Ironically, INdTV has met with producers of the CBC program ZeD, which is similar in format to Current’s proposed programming,” as it doesn’t seem relevant, encyclopædic, or backed up by a citation.
  • I’m sorry, but while CBC may wish the title of The Fifth Estate to be written entirely in lower case, they cannot have their way any more than “kd lang” or “KISS” might.
  • We’re not going to call Tony Burman the Editor in Chief. He isn’t the prime minister. We’re just going to call him Tony Burman.
  • Changed bit about Sirius carriage of radio channels to talk only about the U.S., the subject of the section in question.
  • CBC and CRTC are not per se government-controlled.
  • CBC Watch does not criticize only the “liberal bias” of CBC. It reprints any article critical of CBC (even my analysis of captioning failings).
  • Removed bold in Nicknames section.
  • “Canadian Broadcorping Castration” is a spoonerism and has been linked as such.
  • Added notation (M) to major news bureaux (and I love that spelling; let’s keep it). Under accessibility guidelines, it isn’t recommended to use font changes of this sort for significant meaning differences. (Bold is still there, though.)
  • Frontier Coverage Package could use a rewrite and better integration. I don’t quite understand the “Package” part.

I stopped before the “Presidents” section. – joeclark 18:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coverage discription of 2006 Biennial Liberal Convention

Not sure how to provide a varifiable source for this, but CBC has been erroneously discribing the Biennial Liberal Convention (CBC coverage Nov 29-Dec 1) as the Liberal Leadership Convention. The Liberal Leadership Convention only begins on Dec 2. Could or should, anyone (with a source), add this to the article? GoodDay 19:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

See my reply at Talk:CTV television network. — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 20:16, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. GoodDay 20:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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