Talk:Camp Fire USA
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[edit] Name
The article correctly states that the current name for Camp Fire Girls is Camp Fire USA. So would anybody object if I moved this page to Camp Fire USA? That would turn Camp Fire Girls into a redirect to Camp Fire USA. (I would then straighten out the resulting double redirects.) Art LaPella 02:16, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Pictures
Please disregard. Pictures will be forthcoming with appropriate tags. WarFighter 04:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bluebird
The article correctly states that Bluebirds are now called Starflight (I can't imagine my son wanting to be a bluebird), but it still says that the mascot is a bluebird. My wife has her own Camp Fire group, and she says the bluebird logo went out when they changed to Starflight. Art LaPella 01:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. Could the mascot (versus the symbol) for the program still be a bluebird? I'm going to change it to say the mascot was "originally" the bluebird, but let me know if the bluebird still factors into the program anywhere. It used to be a popular project to make bluebird nesting boxes--it would be sad if they ditched the bird completely. Katr67 02:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
My wife is emailing somebody local. Art LaPella 02:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- I removed the reference to the bluebird entirely until a cited source can be found for its continued use in the program in any form. Katr67 19:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Camp Fire Law
The Camp Fire USA Eastern Massachusetts Council gives "the original Camp Fire Law" as simply "Seek Beauty, Give Service, Pursue Knowledge, Be Trustworthy, Hold On to Health and Be Happy". Not present are "Worship God" and "Glorify Work". Has the Camp Fire Law changed over the years?
This old book from 1916, The Camp Fire Girls at School by Hildegard G. Frey, gives "the Law of the Camp Fire, which is to seek beauty, give service, pursue knowledge, be trustworthy, hold on to health, glorify work, and be happy". Again, no "worship God".
Finally, how can this article state that "Camp Fire USA is inclusive ... open to all youth of any .... creed, religion," if one of the requirements of the Law is to "Worship God"? What about nontheist youth? — Coelacan | talk 20:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- I couldn't find the Camp Fire Law on the national site, but I only spent about 5 minutes looking. Since they have a lot about diversity, including religious diversity, I suspect that they dropped that from it, but it's hard to tell, since I can't find it at all. --Habap 23:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
