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- Thanks for welcoming me, Ian! I have been here a while but it is only now that I have picked up my activity here. --clearthought 13:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks for the welcome
Thanks for the welcome! Pressure Thirteen 01:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I hope you enjoy your time editing here on Wikipedia! ~ clearthought 04:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Figo page
Hi there, not sure why you put back the duplicated information on the Figo page. A lot of the article is repeated and this was my first bash at removing one of the most obvious duplications. It is generally in a bit of a mess. --Bcnviajero 19:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- When I put some of the information back, I could not find where it was duplicated. Yes, that article needs cleanup, but I could not find the duplicated information that warranted the taking out of that large of a chunk of that article. ~ clearthought 22:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] MediaCircus.TV
Hey -- I'm sure just a misunderstanding, but please realize that {{db-bio}} doesn't apply to companies. It's meant for individual people or small groups of them (like musical groups), not corporations. Also, even if db-bio did apply to this type of article, it wouldn't apply in this case, because the article explains the subject's importance. Things that are non-notable can be deleted, but not through speedy deletion. May I suggest you use WP:PROD? It'll probably go through with no problems. Mangojuicetalk 18:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for letting me know that. I am new to these deletion protocols. ~ clearthought 18:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of places beyond Bikini Bottom
I just wanted to tell that saying something like this article is not importance is not a reason for it to be speedied deleted. As such, I've listed it for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of places beyond Bikini Bottom if you'd like to add your opinion. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks for letting me know. ~ clearthought 20:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- No problem. Any other questions, just ask. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Irish American
can you please stop adding in POV rhetoric...the irish page was fine until you changed it to have a pure ulster scots feel...this is an irish american page...it is talking about those who are irish american and those who chose irish american...as per the last census 34million chose IRISH and only 4.9 million chose SCOTCH-IRISH....irish catholic immigration has been far larger in numbers than scotch-irish...most of the millions of irish who came into americn during the mid 19th century to the 20th century were overwhelmingly irish catholic...the census asks people to choose their ethnicity and they did...thus there is no need for u to makeup numbers and choose it for them...i love how who just came up with a figure of 23-30 million are of scotch irish descent...if u truly believe that then right it up on the scotch irish page and leave the irish american page alone..i am just getting tired of changing it after putting in so much hard work into it... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.33.142.34 (talk • contribs).
- You stop adding your rhetoric to the mix. That information has every right to be in that article. Please also sign your comments. ~ clearthought 20:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- You say: if u truly believe that then right it up on the scotch irish page and leave the irish american page alone. If you believe that to be the case, then why are you removing the same information from the Scotch-Irish page as well [1]? IrishGuy talk 20:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] My rhetoric...
ha...with all due respect...that information has no sources...it is pure made up garbage...there are not 23-30 million scotch irish...yes they were fundamentally important to colonial america but in all actuality they were small as far an immigrant groups..roughly 250, 000 came over before massive Irish Catholic immigration...most Irish immigrants to America came after 1840 and most were Catholic...so based on that it only makes sense for their to be more Americans to choose Irish as compared to Scotch-Irish....also where do you get off saying that all Irish Americans want a united Ireland..that is such a bold statement...did u ask each and every irish american...i think not....the reason u have the scotch irish term is because the protestant irish did not want to be compared to the poor gaelic speaking catholic irish who were immigrating into american by the millions from the 1840s to well into the 1900s...so your reasoning behind the origin of the term is pure rubbish...start reading some wider sources of information and enter scholarly facts —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.33.142.34 (talk • contribs).
- First you say that the content belongs with Ulster-Scots, and then when it is shown that you removed it from even there you change gears. As I told you every other time you have shown up ranting, the content you dispute was added by 85.1.55.41. Not by me. Not by Cafzal. Read WP:CIV and WP:ATTACK before you continue with your hostile behavior. If you want to have a dialogue, we will do that. If you want to keep leaving unsigned rants all over Wikipedia, that isn't going to work. IrishGuy talk 22:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- What you are saying is rubbish, pal. In addition please sign your comments: ~~~~. There is census and other data on the topic of which you speak. In addition why did you remove it, as IrishGuy said, from the Ulster-Scots article too? ~ clearthought 23:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Your edit to User talk:Willywonka3505
When using template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template. - CobaltBlueTony 15:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks for letting me know. ~ clearthought 15:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The UN Page
Thank you, im kinda new so its nice to feel appreciate. The article is just so messy...~ Jcdams 15:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Date links
Please don't make edits like this. Per our guidelines, full dates which include a month and a day should be Wikilinked (including the year), while standalone years should not be Wikilinked. You unlinked a valid full date and then linked a standalone year, which is the opposite of what should be done. --Cyde Weys 14:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for passing on the info! ~ clearthought 15:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re:Piping
Hi Cafzal/Clearthought - Piping is adding a vertical bar and some indexing information within a template or category. Only a very small number of templates allow this - and none of the stub ones do - it's mainly used for categories. Your previous edit was to add {{england-geo-stub}}, which wouldn't have done anything that {{england-geo-stub}} wouldn't have done. In any case, Witton Lakes is automatically be indexed under Witton, since it's at the beginning of the article title, so piping was doubly unnecessary in this case. Grutness...wha? 23:38, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Alright. Thanks for explaining that to me. ~ clearthought 23:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Enlighter1 socks
Thanks for helping fight the vandalism of this really annoying user and his sockpuppets. Much appreciated. Thistheman 02:02, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I only fight serious vandals, and work mostly on editing and contributing to Wikipedia. Thanks also to people like you for your hard work! ~ clearthought 02:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reply about 2006 ILC
Just in case, I've replied on my talk page. CP/M comm |Wikipedia Neutrality Project| 18:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lead
I replaced the heavy lead with the previous consensus version because those sources are for the most part repeated elsewhere, and don't to help the WP:Lead, which is supposed to be an extremely concise summary of the article. Additionally, consensus has also held that they be removed in the interests of size. And of course, the current structuring contains disputed assertions. Let me know if you have any qyestions. Cheers, TewfikTalk 20:05, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- I am not against a concise lead, but I don't like it when good references and good summary information is removed. In addition, some of your edits changed some of the wording even though it needed no changing (in my opinion). There are some people -- and I don't mean you -- who feel the need to push their agenda, and the ILC page is falling pray to some of those people. I just want an informative, objective article that follows both proper writing and Wikipedia styles. ~ clearthought 20:10, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Edits
The 8 to eight isn't the issue. The problem was that each <ref> tag is its own unit, so the "publisher" or any entry must be wikified each and every separate time so that the <references /> section populates properly. Thanks. -- Avi 21:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh... so if there are, let's say, three BBC News sources in a section, they would all have "BBC News" wikilinked? Or if two news stories had the same date, both would be linked? If that's what you mean then I understand, thanks for clearing that up. I will go back over the article and fix that all back up. ~ clearthought 21:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, because each reference populates itself independently of any other ref. Now, if each entry was referring to the SAME reference (same url for example) then there should only be ONE primary entry with a name such as <ref name = "foo">{{cite web |blah = |blah = }}</ref> and every other time THAT particular URL/source gets mentioned, you'd just have to type <ref name = "foo" /> -- Avi 22:02, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- OK; I get it. Thanks again. ~ clearthought 22:05, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, because each reference populates itself independently of any other ref. Now, if each entry was referring to the SAME reference (same url for example) then there should only be ONE primary entry with a name such as <ref name = "foo">{{cite web |blah = |blah = }}</ref> and every other time THAT particular URL/source gets mentioned, you'd just have to type <ref name = "foo" /> -- Avi 22:02, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
...for the comment on my user page. I usually just get grief there! Elizmr 00:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- No problem. I it nice to see some good editors out there, I am just envious that Mr. Jimbo Wales has edited your page ;-) ! ~ clearthought 02:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701
If the Wikify tag is "not acceptable", then the article needs some kind of related tag. That article is a mess! Repeat links, choppy info, the works! ~ clearthought 18:01, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- The tag you would be looking for is surely cleanup, but I don't think it makes sense to put that on an article about a current event, which is evolving rapidly at present. I suggest waiting for a while. Olborne 09:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Super-power
Stop your editing nonsense on the super power page. Your edits and inclusions of copyvio tag are lame, and totally unfounded. Why don't you create an article arguing Scotland is a superpower, and leave the other page alone? Or, improve the page like a normal person, without "OMG I'm just as good" POV garbage. ~~smooth_operator 18:14, 6 September 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.248.222.23 (talk • contribs).
- Excuse me? I was just following Wikipedia procedure. We needed to confirm that GlobalCPR took that information from Wikipedia and that we did not take it from them. I am not the one being egotistical, and I am not an IP address pretending to be under a registered name and calling others obnoxious and self-centered, you are. There now has been a conclusion that GlobalCPR took the information from Wikipedia, but before the user that provided hard facts of that (by citing the Chevrolet article), it is best to assume that, because of the nature of copyvios, unless a site is a mirror (like answers.com) of Wikipedia, there is reason to suggest a copyvio. Wikipedia does NOT follow the arrogant opinion of ONE unregistered user. There is NOW a reached consensus on the matter of the copyvio, but please do not be renegade in your decisions to delete tags like the copyvio one in the future unless you can provide proof contrary to the tag. I put the tag up in the first place because it seemed like parts of our superpower article were copied from them, it is not unusual. Please do not launch unfounded personal attacks against me again. ~ clearthought 21:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
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- You've got to be kidding me, personal attacks? I wasn't making personal attacks, don't flatter yourself. As far as me being an IP address goes, who cares? My "nic" is smooth_operator, many people know me by that name - google it. Just because I'm not registered, doesn't make my qualities any less substantial. As for your whining, hmmmmmmmmmmmm, turns out I was right...imagine that. Justify your actions all you want, you will anyways, point is, I noticed it wasn't copyvio ages ago...you didn't. Also, other people noticed it, why do you think NOBDODY ELSE added the copyvio? Btw, you said, "it is best to assume". Lets analyze that statement shall we? Oh, I see the word 'assume', a.k.a., POV! Assume without anyone elses consensus (which you also speak of). If you had done even the smallet amount of research, instead of sticking a copyvio tag on an article which even a monkey could do, you would have noticed what we all did...no copyvio! I even went as far as sending the webhost an e-mail...which confirmed the fact. Next time, think before you edit something, or, you might just stick with spell checking articles as your method contributions.
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[edit] Please revert your last revert
As a show of good faith, we can work out the nitty gritty later. I would like to keep the dialog on the chart moving. Carbonate 14:08, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Also, thank you for your support :) Carbonate 14:09, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think that some of these pro-Israel IPs that, mind you, I was warding off last night, really care about a compromise. If they did, than they would have made some real dialogue by now. See Talk:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict#Pie_chart and Talk:Casualties of the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict#Pie_chart for all previous discussion. And, you're welcome. ~ clearthought 14:13, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree, but I still think it's best to take the high road if it keeps that graph in place for a day or two. I just read CP/M's talk page, thank you for asking for assistance. I think CP/M made very constructive critisims and I hope I implemented them well. Carbonate 14:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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Hello Nice to see that some new faces have recently become interested in commenting on the article. However, I am interested to know how you became involved with the page? It would seem that someone came along and changed the title without any discussion. Then someone started a debate about a different title. A number of people I have never seen comment on a Harry Potter page then opposed the proposed further move. This is quite extraordinary attention for a HP page.
No one has yet explained the grounds for changing the page from its original title. Can you explain why this was done? It was also done by someone who had never edited the page before and was pretty inexperienced. A justification was given, but not explained. Then an anon deleted the debate. Also very strange. Why would anyone do this? Sounded like someone wanted to avoid discussion. While I do not think it likely that people would have opposed the page title change if it is satifactorily explained, this has still not been done. I do not see how any change of title can be discussed or considered unless someone explains why it needed to be moved in the first place. Sandpiper 07:55, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- Hi.
- I would never delete a debate or other important info on a talk page; if you look at my edits you will see that I am not that kind of editor;
- I don't have the authority to move a page;
- I don't use anon sock-puppets;
- I rested my case in the aforementioned title debate (even after explaining my reasoning — it was just not worth it).
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The request for mediation has failed. No compromise chart was presented so I have readded the one I created. Carbonate 08:01, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
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The Chart you try to push is clearly POV because 700 killed Hezbollah members confirmed by 3rd parties are not included.Shrike 22:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- (In re to above comment and [2]) I welcome you to submit a legitimate reference/source to that claim... and not to have a one-person crusade on all things that do not paint Israel in a great light — though are just representing the figures known — and will cease trying to take on all the efforts of compromising I and others (namely CM/M and Carbonate) have made. ~ clearthought 22:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
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Anyone and everyone is welcome to participate, as a student, as a coach, or both. Every week or two a new major topic of discussion or classroom assignment is introduced, usually with a guest writer who presents his or her expertise on the current subject and who remains on hand to answer questions. Everyone is encouraged to participate in the discussions, such as sharing your expertise, asking and answering questions, etc.
The current topic of discussion is vandalism, and our guest writer is Budgiekiller.
All discussions are open-ended, so all previous discussion topics and classroom assignments are still there for viewing and further participation. There are also sections for posting miscellaneous topics and questions, requesting coaching assistance, etc.
In addition to inviting those who would like to learn, I routinely invite experts from all over Wikipedia to come and contribute for the benefit of all. The VC is rapidly turning into a clearing house of the best resources, methods, and techniques known for working on Wikipedia.
You are cordially invited to participate.
Here's an announcement box which you can place on your userpage or at the top of your talk page for keeping up to date with classroom assignments.
I hope to see you there. Sincerely, The Transhumanist 08:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Concordia Newsletter
NEWSLETTER
Concordia is currently trying to relaunch. I, and all the members of the ex-council, wish to welcome new members to the group. We are a group who aim to promote remaining civil, in an environment where messages can easily be interpretated wrongly.
[edit] Help out now!
- Try and help people remain civil! Talk to them, and help them in any way possible. Do not be afraid to use the talk page.
- Give people the Civility Barnstar.
- Make and spread some Wikitokens so people know there are people to help if they want assistance.
- Add banners or logos to your userpage to show your support.
- Suggest some ideas! Add 'em to the talk page.
We are a community, so can only work though community contributions and support. It's the helping that counts.
[edit] Decision Making
The council expired one month ago, but due to the current position of the group the current council will remain until the position of the group can be assessed, and whether it would be sensible to keep Concordia going. For most decisions, however, it will be decided by all who choose to partake in discussions. I am trying to relaunch because of the vast amounts of new members we have received, demonstrating that the aims are supported.
If you wish to opt of of further talk-page communications, just let us know here.
- Ian¹³/t 20:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC). Kindly delivered by MiszaBot.
