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[edit] Empty sections

I noticed that following sections are empty:

• The Armies of the Realms-in-Exile
• Byzantine Army under the Paleologi

Anyone with any knowledge of these topics, please help to improve this article by contributing at least something on these topics. Thanks! Bigdaddy1204 23:48, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

It seems that no one else is interested in this article, so I will have to make all changes myself. I am considering removing the huge lists of specific army units - they aren't particularly useful to the general reader, and they clutter the article as well as making it overly long. Also the article says little about what the army achieved, where it campaigned and what its successes and failures where. Where are the references to its battles? This article needs a lot more work, in my honest opinion. Bigdaddy1204 15:32, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm interested but I don't know enough to help. But this does seem like the appropriate place for a list of units and such...it's about the army itself, and info about battles and campaigns, while important, can already be found elsehwere. Adam Bishop 16:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Well J. Birkenmeier's book entitled "the development of the Komnenian army" has a lot to say about battles and campaigns, so why not have them here too?

There are some other desirable sections that could be added to the article:

• Tactics
• Arms and equipment
• Unit types
• Byzantine Cavalry
• Byzantine Infantry
• Elite units

The only problem with all this is the time and research it requires, but I'll do what I can when I get time. Bigdaddy1204 14:01, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Similary to Adam Bishop my knowledge of post 1081 Byzantium is rather poor for the moment. As for the clutter we can distribute information among Byzantine articles, namely Byzantine battle tactics were we already present some tactics, arms and unit types. A Byzantine Military History article could (should) cover the campaigns and events experienced by the Byzantine military, much the same way the Roman series of articles was organised. Of course Bigdaddy1204 has named our major foe, Time. Moves and addition could be discussed here to avoid misunderstandings amongst editors. I'll see what I can scrounge up for a Byzantine Military History article. --Dryzen 17:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Great work on fleshing out the article Bigdaddy1204. --Dryzen 17:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Dryzen! It's good to see someone appreciate this article. Hopefully we can get it improved over the next couple of months, possibly even to Featured Article status. It sounds difficult now, but I managed it at Manuel I Komnenos, with the help of useful suggestions and comments from User:Adam Bishop and the people at Wikipedia: Peer Review. Who knows what we can accomplish if we set our minds (and our time!) to the task! Bigdaddy1204 21:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moirae (military)

Any of you ever hear of this Byzantine military administration? From its name I would think it a Meros (Merẽ)/Turma. From its commander's title its a Drungus/Chilliarchy and from its unit tree half the Imperial Tagmata. What ever it is it needs attention. Opinions and information is greatly appreaciated. --Dryzen 20:12, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone mind if I delete this or change it to Meros?--Dryzen 13:28, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't mind if you change it. Sorry I couldn't help more though, I know too little about it. How can we get more people involved in this article? Shall we submit it for Wikipedia Peer Review? Or maybe try to get some help over at the military history project? Bigdaddy1204 17:19, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I've never heard of it myself and I've done quite a bit of reading on the Byzantine military and its administration. Thats why I was asking questions, this could be made up or some anachonism/revision, where Moirae is a modern greek term but does not reflect on the Byzantine. Considering its a stub withotu activity since Febuary, exept to revert vandilism, the article was written by an Anonymous in septembre 2005, the same fellow who wrote [[Drungarios], wich in english is written are Drungary (title) or Drungus(unit), I dont think many voices will be raized now. Plus I have given 2 weeks time(of wich I have had no responces) to naswer my questions... :oP--Dryzen 18:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)