Template talk:Buddhism

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Please see Talk:Buddhism for some comments about this template. - Nat Krause 17:20, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I removed Buddhist meditation from the top of the template. It's an important subject, but a vast one, and the existing article is extremely stubby. I don't think it's a good idea to have it in the template until it has a much broader scope. - Nat Krause 05:13, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Alphabetization

Ah, I'd alphabetized the list after it had taken me a little time to find "Texts". I'd nearly gone to add Buddhist texts myself. ‣ᓛᖁ♀ᑐ 10:33, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Apology

I accidentally screwed up when creating a new template based on this one, and replaced this one by the new one. I immediately reverted the change; this was not intended as vandalism.

[edit] Need improvement

Someone who know more about Buddhism should help improve this template. Templates of other religions Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism are all well organized except Buddhism. Someone please improve this template. Janviermichelle 23:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Please check here Template:Buddhism3. Working on a new and better template. Please help.Janviermichelle 11:53, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

What was wrong with the old one, in your estimation? - Nat Krause(Talk!) 20:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

It's a lot more informative now than it used to be. The only major improvement I can think of is a better picture. The present wheel is rather grainy. --Tydaj 13:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I replaced the photo with one I created. Please let me know your thoughts... --thedOnut 23:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
It contains more links; I'm not sure that really makes it more informative. The tradeoff is that it takes up a lot more space. - Nat Krause(Talk!) 21:02, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah... I know.. you're right. It takes up a lot more space. But other religions are also using about-the-same-size templates, so... people might think that kind of template helps. And I feel that it helps (especially for the people who are new to buddhism)Janviermichelle 07:41, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Would anyone improve this template? Check Template:Christianity and you'll find it really helpful. I'm not sure this template would help people who're looking for "what the buddhism is". I tried to improve this template and... anyone (who knows buddhism well) please add/edit/delete categories or rearrange/redistribute the links. Template:Islam also gives me a big picture of how to navigate the huge islam-encyclopedia. Janviermichelle 07:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Why the wheel? How about lotus? Janviermichelle 19:53, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Change it! That's what being bold is all about. Netscott 20:44, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I replaced the photo with one I created. Please let me know your thoughts... --thedOnut 23:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I prefer the wheel because it is recognizable and actually useful as an icon, whereas this symbol was made up for Wikipedia. (Similar to how I prefer the crescent for the Islam template, but people are way too whiny about that one.) Ashibaka tock 13:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I think this symbol is okay. I personally don't like the wheel... though my parents are buddhists and I've visited tons of south korean temples when i was a child, the wheel is not familiar to me. Janviermichelle 17:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I guess a swastika would seem inappropriate ...—Nat Krause(Talk!) 07:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding template

how do I add the template to a page? The Sakyamuni Buddha page doesn't have this template...

[edit] What symbolizes Buddhism

Is there any symbol or picture that could symbolize buddhism and satisfies all (or most) sects of buddhism? it could be the wheel, lotus, swastika, or something else. - Party A

they do have a wheel ON a lotus - Party B
The most common symbol in the Buddhist world, I suppose, is the image of the Buddha himself, as seen in the familiar Buddha statue. Apart from the image of a person, the next most common symbol, in my experience, is most likely the swastika. If we consider this to be inappropriate for use here, the dharma wheel, which we have been using, is quite common, and it was adopted as an official symbol by the World Fellowship of Buddhists. However, the Donut's Buddha-in-lotus image Image:Lotus75.png is also quite nice; I've never seen anything quite like it before, but it combines two very traditional symbols: the Buddha image and the lotus.—Nat Krause(Talk!) 22:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree. Buddha-in-lotus image is quite nice. I think the statue of Buddha itself (including the one in the lotus) is the most relevant. religion facts. Janviermichelle 18:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
The oldest representation of the Buddha is a Bodhi tree (the Buddha himself gave permission to use the Bodhi tree as a representation of himself - in his absence that is). Also Bodhi leafs are also quite popular. In India some of the rockcave-monasteries of Ellora have door-openings in the shape of a Bodhi leaf, so also the Bodhi leaf is an old symbol.Sacca 14:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Nat, thank you. I remember reading through here sometime back in July, about how the original wheel was the symbol for Buddhism and how "we" needed a new symbol. So it came to me to use the lotus and an outline of the Buddha together. I love creating simple images especially for Buddhism. Frankly, I'm surprised the image is so well received. Many thanks to everyone! Thedonut 02:32, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] headings

Bold face of the headings are not showing up?

They do with meSacca

[edit] Tripartite

I removed the mention of tripartite and now the link is again called schools of buddhism since that term is more clear, and the link refers to an article which mentions all the many many subschools. Also in the past there were many more schools than just 3 (there were for example about 18 - 20 early buddhist schools). Tripartite buddhism should refer to an article about commonalities and differences between Mahayana, Vajrayana and whatever-you-want-to-call-it-Theravada-Hinayana-Nikaya-Buddhism, not to a list of all schools. Tripartite is also a term which is generally not used in this context, although I can see why Nat (?) choose to use it. But I think Wkipedia should better stick with what is common usage. Sacca 00:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template shaping up

Pretty nice if I do say so myself!  : )

[edit] Concepts

I propose putting the 'fundamentals' and 'philosophy/in depth' together under 'fundamental concepts' with a link to 'buddhist concepts', because they're all fundamental as far as I can see. Right now 'philosophy' is on top of the second list of concepts under the name 'in depth', but that name doesn't cover the subjects below it very well, and it might give the impression that using the four noble truths you can't go really deep? Also philosophy doesn't really do the job. A better discription would be 'in width' really, because they're just more concepts to use in contemplation or reflection. Anyway I think the seperation is quite artificial and it would be better to put them in one group. greetings, Sacca 16:26, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I think those in the fundamentals are really fundamentals.. The basic things that should be done to reach the status of nirvana, but cosmology and karma etc are, i guess, not that fundamental relatively. what do you think? i'm not an expert by the way. Janviermichelle 17:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Cosmology maybe not to reach Nirvana, but it is a integrated part of the general teachings of Buddha. But certainly when one doesn't believe bad causes have bad results and good causes have good results, this would be a big thing, and certainly an obstruction to setting the very first steps on the path to Nirvana. greetings, Sacca 01:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I did not know which article to link fundamentals to, but I thought the previously existing link was much better suited for 'More concepts'. Linking 'buddhism in-depth' to 'buddhist philosophy' is not really suitable I think; it's not the same. So if anybody knows a good article to link to Fundamentals please do make the link. Also if anybody wants to add buddhist philosophy as a link on its own they are free to do so off course. greetings, Sacca 18:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] needs more Japan

The sidebar is a great overview of the Indian-style continental schools of Buddhism, but it needs some links to other national traditions. How about something along the lines of:

Japan:

  • Nichiren
  • Pure Land Buddhism
  • Shingon
  • Zen
  • etc.?

I know there's a risk of too much cluttering, but c'mon, no link to Zen?? That seems a bit odd to me.

Similar sections could be made for China to Ch'an and whatnot and for Tibet to the Four Schools.

--66.8.203.13 06:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

China and Japan fall under East Asia, just like Vietnam and Myanmar fall under South-east Asia. Also, Zen falls under Mahayana, just like the Thai Forest Tradition falls under Theravada, and the Gelugpa falls under Vajrayana. It would be too much to put all the sects in all those countries in this list. So better just leave it as it is.Greetings, Sacca 07:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Updated image

Heya folks, I've gone ahead and converted User:Thedonut's (very nice) lotus image into an SVG version. Its default size is 75 pixels square, just like in the series template, but it scales up and down pretty well:

I'm considering swapping this one in for the current PNG version. I know we're supposed to be bold and all, but since this would affect so many pages with the template I figured I ought to get people's input first. — Xaonon (Talk) 08:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I went ahead and changed it. I'm impatient. That's a form of boldness, right?  :/ — Xaonon (Talk) 20:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
nice picture :) --85.181.7.79 21:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Xaonon, many thanks for converting my image. I need to learn how to do that. It looks wonderful! Thedonut 02:34, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
All, I've added more images and for example. Thedonut 03:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bhavacakra

I've stuck the template in Bhavacakra article with a bit of improvisation. It isn't on the template itself. Could someone change/remove etc as necessary. Squidnchips 11:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

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