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You can find me at my user page or talk page for any questions. Happy editing, and we'll see ya 'round.
Joe I 14:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Homophobia is not a phobia
WIth reagrds to your attempts to get anti homosexualism recognised, I noticed your edits on Talk:Ku Klux Klan.
Homophobia is not a phobia. It is a neologism that utilises the suffix phobia in a non-standard way. the lead to the Homophobia article describes it correctly as "the fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals." Not the use of aversion and siscrimination, not just fear, and the use of OR, meaning that these are not always present.
Homophobia may be a "new" word, but it is the currently accepted term for this behaviour and/or attitude. Anti-homosexualism, as your research seems to provide sources to its previous existence as a term, should be mentioned historically in this article, not as an article of its own just yet, as it just contains the same material as homophobia, as they are two words for the same thing.--ZayZayEM 17:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
- Welcome ZayZayEM, I believe I understand your point (though you may want to check what you wrote for typos). Anti-homosexualism, as I understand its definition, does not include aversion, or any other attitude of the mind. It is an "ism" a plan of action. Such plans of action rarely if ever have anything to do with fear or aversion to homosexuality. In the same way anti-Semitism has nothing whatsoever to do with fear or aversion to Jews. Jews are the target because they make easy political scapegoats. The same is true of homosexuals, gypsies, the handicapped, etc. Anti-homosexualism is a much bigger and more serious word than homophobia. You or I could be homophobic, but if we round up a mob and go looking for homosexuals to thrash then that becomes Anti-homosexualism. Homophobia doesn't cover it. Homophobia is a state of mind, Anti-homosexualism is a plan of action. With regard to discrimination I don't accept that definition for homophobia I think that is an error discrimination is a verb, the definers of homophobia cannot seem to decide if it is a noun, or a verb. They try to make it a catch all. Anti-homosexualism is a noun. Just like "plan" is a noun. --Britcom 18:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
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- You're mistaken that the difference between a noun and verb has anything to do with this. The word discrimination is always an abstract noun. The word homophobia is also always an abstract noun. The word anti-homosexualism is always an abstract noun. The word plan is sometimes a noun and somtimes a verb. ZayZayEM has a valid point, and it's not enough for you to say "I don't accept that definition." I hope that you are able to show verifiable evidence in published literature to indicate that others have this view about these definitions and that you insert these references here to replace the "[citation needed]" tags. If these citations do not exist, I'll still support keeping this article in Wikipedia in a dramaticly altered form as a historically important word and/or a word that describes a concept that overlaps with homophobia with a differing emphasis (as was done for Judeophobia). Note that Anti-Islamism has redirected to Islamophobia for some time. This is an example of a similar non-standard but common usage of the suffix "-phobia." Flying Jazz 20:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Final entry
Britcom has quit Wikipedia in disgust. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-homosexualism for information on why Britcom would want to quit. He no longer wants to be associated with people who are more concerned with their own egos and small minded self-righteousness, then getting it right. Britcom has recently come to the conclusion that Wikipedia is overrun by hypocrites and territorial quangos who punish rather than foster those who would add to Wikipedia's content. Don't be fooled by Wikipedia's claims of neutrality and inclusion. Wikipedia is an exclusive club and if you are not one of the anointed, you will be ostracized and your edits condemned.
--Britcom 07:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- I've taken the liberty of copy/pasting the latest version of this article from the article space into a subdirectory of your user talk page (User talk:Britcom/Anti-homosexualism) in case the article is deleted or redirected. This way, if you change your mind, decide to return, and use this content elsewhere, it will still be easily available. It will also be available to others. Flying Jazz 02:00, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Oh man. To the extent that I was responsible for you quitting Wikipedia by nominating Anti-homosexualism for deletion, I'm sorry. If it helps any, I recognize that it was a mistake to nominate it, I wasn't thinking clearly. Now I feel bad. Come back so I won't have to feel bad? I'll give you a cookie if you come back? Herostratus 21:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)