User talk:Brianyoumans

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Hello, Brianyoumans, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! - UtherSRG (talk) 12:30, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] helpme request

I have a suggestion for an addition to the Images help material; where shall I send it? Basically, I think a warning is needed about the use of tables and images - articles frequently start with tables on the right, and if an image is used and is on the right, it ends up under the table, with any following text below and to the left - potentially creating an unsightly and potentially misleading gap. ("Hey, I guess that's the whole article... kind short, wasn't it?") I have now corrected two articles that had that same problem. It is a particularly insidious problem because if you edit an article section by section everything looks fine, because the table isn't in the section you are editing. --Brianyoumans 08:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Explain your view about this issue at the Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style discussion page after looking at related information there. This way, you'll be able to make sure that your concerns aren't already mentioned or currently being discussed.

—-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk) 2006-03-24 09:10Z

[edit] Hokum

Restored to last good edit. Glad to be of service. Deizio talk 22:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit War

I have been in a silly editing war over an entry for Charles de Granville, a French apple liqueur. The entry was put up by the producer, was badly written, and did not have a neutral POV. After several rounds of trying to deal with this guy, I thought my last version was about as good of an article as this subject deserves - and more - and the guy is still insisting on deleting it and replacing it with his own (which is a bit better than it used to be, but still not very good.) Could someone else chime in and help persuade this guy that Wikipedia is not for marketing? Or maybe lock down my last version of the article? You can see the extensive discussion on the talk page. (I have to admit, my first entry wasn't very diplomatic.)

Hello, it's good that you have taken the issue to the talk page of the article. If the problem continues, please try one of the methods listed at Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. It may be good to introduce a third party to the dispute, as listed on the page. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 08:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HHO Gas

Please see my comment there - CrazyRussian talk/email 14:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wat Manorom

My apologies for the Wat Manorom edit. I didn't make it up to the top level as you pointed out and when I did reach the top level, I discovered a wealth of credible references. Nice find.

[edit] What happened on the Moon

I notice that you were the admin who protected Apollo moon landing hoax; could you perhaps do the same for What happened on the Moon? I suppose we could try just warning or blocking the IP address that is doing it, but I suspect the page will end up with the same sort of problems as the main hoax page. --Brianyoumans 20:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's worth protecting that page yet, just because of one disagreement with only 2 reverts per party. Make sure that you do not end up violating WP:3RR though, even if you are doing the correct thing. If more happens, you can write to me again, or if I'm not around leave a request at WP:RFPP. Try to discuss things on the talk page first, though. —Mets501 (talk) 20:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've reverted this time and asked the anon to use the talk page. —Mets501 (talk) 23:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I've reverted it agian. —Mets501 (talk) 19:40, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Could you perhaps do the latest revert on this article? And, what do you think should be the next step? I admit that the last time I asked might have been a bit early to take action, but, if you look at the talk page, things have deteriorated a bit. Brianyoumans 00:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh god, I don't know what to do about that article. I've reverted him again, on the article and talk page (where he told you to "go eff yourself"). The user seems unwilling to co-operate. I still have no idea why he is calling factual information "government propoganda" either. The paragraph does not say "this movie is WRONG", it just presents the results of a poll showing most people regard the moon landing as fact. —Mets501 (talk) 01:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

No worries. I just reverted him on his userpage and gave him another NPA warning. If he makes anymore personal attacks, he should be listed on WP:PAIN since he's had at least two warnings for personal attacks now. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 09:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I made a report at WP:PAIN. Feel free to add to it if you wish. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 09:30, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] glenn herrin

why are you taking down the info i am working on puting his comany info in he was at one time in with enron and healthsouth and he is the one who put up the money to help start healthsouth at age 19 and was in the water company with enron he had to file CH7 and loss it all lived in a tent for over a year and is back on top of life and making big $$

Pat

[edit] request for immediate help

This is a request for immediate help from Kmaguir1 07:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC). If you have time, I'd like you to examine the Bell Hooks article and talk page. It's a scholarly article about a controversial writer, someone who drew the ire of a conservative commentator. They wanted me to go get the quote from her book, and I did that. But now, they're arguing it's not notable. As a fellow AfD frequenter, you will know that of all the meaningless academic trivia included on her page, that what they wanted to exclude was really ridiculous: that she says as an opening to her book, Killing Rage, "I am writing this essay sitting beside an anonymous white male that I long to murder". This may in itself be notable, but David Horowitz wrote about it in 100 Dangerous Professors, and it was written about on front page mag, and all the citations are given on the page. I would appreciate your help--I'm contending with some very difficult Marxists who are attached to her work, and think that they're defending the liberal cause, but really, they're just keeping out material that is very easily notable.-Kmaguir1 07:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Greetings. In the interest of disclosure, I'd like to inform you of a conduct RfC on Kmaguir1. It's here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Kmaguir1. If you have time and are so inclined, feel free to provide comments there. Meanwhile, if you go to the bell hooks page, please do join in the discussion. If you read the Talk page and look at my and others' edit histories, you'll see that the picture is not quite as Kmaguir1 paints it. (I have no idea who the Marxists are he's referring to, and I've also edited his text for improvement, and left it in the article, vs. what he's saying here.)

Bottom line: welcome to bell hooks, be aware of the RfC, and feel free to join it. Cheers,--Anthony Krupp 17:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meryl Getline

I swear that was not meant to be vandalism. It is true; there are many online posts and bashing sites for Meryl Getline. But, you are right. A dumb internet rumor and/or joke should not be on Wikipedia. mikey 05:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Again, I could find you a source for the Ellen Church thing as well. mikey 14:51, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

No, don't worry about it, I don't really support it, not that I'm against it. mikey 19:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abandonia Reloaded

I think I should apologize for my comment in response to your pointing out my lack of prolificness in editing. I've been pouring over WP policies for what seems like forever now (though it's more like a few weeks), and I've just run across the "meatpuppet" issue, and against the posted advisory not to take it personally in WP:GD, I believe I did. So, I apologize for my newbie-ness, but please be aware that I do care greatly about WP policies as much as I care about freeware and the AR article, and am not just a "meatpuppet" sent to participate in an AfD. To be honest, I am just not naturally "bold" about editing other people's work, it feels a bit strange, but I know a bit about this subject, and am attempting to learn the ropes of the processes here. Taikara 20:43, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I've added a slight bit of info to my user page and tricked out my sig a bit, so maybe I won't appear quite so newbie in future discussions. You know, I don't really have much to contribute outside of freeware, but maybe I could help out in the AfD volunteering, it has been kind of fun researching policies. Regards ^^ Taikara | Talk 03:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello again, and sorry about this, I'm hoping for some advice. At this point, I'm resigned to the possibility that the AR article will be deleted (I sort of figured it was likely after it was nominated, but that wasn't going to keep me from trying to prevent it :P) - however, there's a user who's had some... let's just say bad history... with the AR community that's rather effectively mucking up the discussion. I've tried to get the discussion back on track, but there's a lot of attacking/ranting going on, and I'm unsure how to proceed, and starting to lose my temper. Obviously, he's welcome to his opinion, but the way he's expressing it is rather inflammatory, imho. I've considered an admin alert, but I have no idea if that is acceptable, or worth bothering with for this situation. Could you please advise? Also, I've floundered around a bit with a good way to get started helping out beyond the AR article, and there's just so much, it's a bit overwhelming, which is why I never got involved before :( -- Taikara | Talk 02:51, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again, you've been really helpful, and I appreciate it. I think I'll just stop responding to him full stop, as I've already tried the "we agree to disagree, please stop" tactic. Unfortunately, I've experienced this before, and I should know from that experience that saying so much as "hello" is inviting a tirade. I think I was just caught a bit off guard by him here on WP. I think I'll try to check out things I'm familiar with as I think of them, that was an excellent suggestion! Taikara | Talk 03:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD

Actually they are all created by the same user, tied to the same school, and none of them assert notablity. Don't try to personalize this [1] it is in bad taste. I could care less if the article is kept or not. But if you vote keep, and make a comment such as you did, add to it, clean it up, and demonstrate it is worth keeping. As of now its still sloppy, ill-sourced, and of dubious notablity. Arbusto 05:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:AviationPartnersBoeing

Thanks for telling me. - Blood red sandman 11:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SSME, a.k.a. SSEM

Your rationale at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Services: Science, Management, and Engineering is being discussed at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2006 September 12, and the article has been renominated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Services Science, Management, and Engineering. Uncle G 18:09, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello again & another advice request

Hey there :) I started a new article (A Land Remembered - it's a really good book), and it hasn't been nominated for deletion yet, yay! It's just an itsy bitsy stub right now though (was a little nervous about it getting deleted lol), so I'm planning on expanding it and adding another article about the author, Patrick Smith. I suppose he's notable enough, having been nominated for multiple Pulitzers and Nobels and a plethora of other awards. I just have to get down to the library to get some good research material for citations, all I really have at my house is the book. So, thanks again for being encouraging. As for my question - AR somehow miraculously withstood the AfD, but the person who nominated it is now hitting the article with all sorts of tags - weasel words, NPOV, merge, etc. I agree that it should probably be checked for POV, but is it "normal" on WP for articles to be tagged for merging directly after a keep consensus on an AfD? From the examples I've seen, and even another AfD I've participated in, merging is a potential consensus option. It seems to me that he's just sore that his nomination was contested and denied, but I'm not familiar enough with standard procedure on WP yet to make that assumption. If it's not normal, I'm not sure what to do about it (nevermind that I don't know what exactly to do if it IS normal, either). Sorry to bother you with this sort of stuff again, but you've been nice, and I don't really know anyone else to ask yet.

Also, congratulations on the new addition to your family!! (sorry if that's intrusive, I read over the AfD linked above and noticed your comment - can't learn the ropes if you don't check things out, you know) Ja ne, Taikara | Talk 20:17, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Deletion Tag

Brian as you said i lifted your deletion tag on Sofiur Rahman. Please ask me any question in the article's talk page.Tarif Ezaz Bangladesh 16:36, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Xenomorph

Hi. You don't see my prod in the history because a) the article is under a slightly different name and b) even if it was under the same name I think you wouldn't see the history prior to the article's first deletion. In any case, the article is a recreation of a previously deleted article so it can be speedily deleted. Thanks for telling me about it. I have removed your PROD tag and replaced with the appropriate speedy tag. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 22:37, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Horace Mann NPOV cleanup

I cleaned up the paragraph in Horace Mann that you flagged as having NPOV issues. Please take a look - I think it's much better now and that you might consider removing the NPOV warning. --Zippy 07:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MG CLUB OF GREECE

Hello there, I have removed the deletion tag, as the article has nothing to do with advertisement. It is a big Greek Club that relates to MG Automobiles, and we do not sell anything. Thus, there is no intention to advertise. Even subscription to the club is free. Please let me know if you have any other concerns

Perry Gogas 11:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for answering my questions about US academia. I wasn't expecting anyone to reply to me personally, so I really do appreciate it. Emeraude 17:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MG CAR CLUB OF GREECE

Thank you for the time you took to explain it to me. Your idea of the MG Car Club which is actually the oldest and with the most members is good! I will find some time to draft an article on that. Perry Gogas 08:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No prob

Keep up the good work. youngamerican (ahoy hoy) 02:57, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Radisson Windsor

Ehh...you can take out the radisson and hilton if you wish...it's just htat there's this giant hole in WIndsor right next to the building that's generating huge controversy in Windsor right now... RaccoonFox • Talk • Stalk 03:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

very well, but it's late and i have to head out shortly. i will work on the hilton, radisson, and Cleary Auditorium (now part of St. Clair College) articles tomorrow. RaccoonFox • Talk • Stalk 03:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] St Andrew's Presby. Windsor, ON

A little more noteriety....enough to save it?? Bacl-presby 00:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC) Thank you!! Bacl-presby 13:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accreditation

Just to clear this up: Accreditation is not a criteria for inclusion or deletion. If you look at my edit history you will notice I have started articles on unaccredited religious schools ( such as California Biblical University and Seminary, Golden State School of Theology, California Pacific School of Theology, and others). Seminaries are places of higher education and issue degrees, there are four different religious organizations recognized by the USDE that accredit. They are not absolved from academic oversight. Arbusto 03:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AFD

Now this I would argue is family history and doesn't have a place: John Frelinghuysen (1727-1754) --plange 03:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Cool idea-- this might be of interest: WP:MILHIST#Notability.... I agree this one is pretty borderline, but since I guess you'd call me an inclusionist, I'm erring on the side of keeping... --plange 04:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: AFD closing incomplete?

Thanks, I missed it somehow. It's gone now. - Bobet 11:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Don't you have anything better to do ?

Don't you have anything better to do than deleting pages, scrapping other people's hard work ? Go to Hell! Terveetkadet

[edit] You are pathetic

You are pathetic. You keep trying to destroy other people's work instead of creating something yourself. What do you know about punk rock, about Canada bands, about Die Mannequin that makes you pretend this is non-notable material? This band is signed on EMI for God's sake! This is not junk, you are just a frustrated asshole because I told you upfront what I thought of the way you do things on wikipedia. Go to Hell. Terveetkadet

[edit] What do you want?

Die Mannequin are signed on EMI, featured in many publications, they opened for Guns'N'Roses and already have one album and will release another in the beginning of 2007 besides having played on the "Next Big Thing" stage of the EdgeFest this year. Why do you keep wasting your time and mine trying to destroy something when you could just mind your own business and do something else ? You are still pathetic. I am not the one who wanted to make this personal but you keep trying to destroy my hard work and that sucks. Terveetkadet

[edit] Loser

7 pages added, 10's of pages deleted: you are definitely a loser who destroys cause he is unable to create anything interesting205.237.53.91

[edit] Can't you leave me alone?

Can't you leave me and my articles alone? I don't want anything to do with you so please leave me alone... I'd be happy to remove my AFD tag for Adamu Tesfaw if you did the same for Die Mannequin and Care Failure. And you can be sure you won't hear of me anymore after that. You're the worst pain in the ass I've ever met.Terveetkadet

[edit] Gullion's

Yeah, I have no idea if it is even accurate; that kid created thousands of nonsense pages and edits under hundreds of different accounts. Once in a while he created something valid, but how would we know? Personally, I think that if someone can't be bothered to write several good sentences explaining exactly what something is, along with its significance, they shouldn't bother putting up a stub. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 16:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] C++ books

Hi Brian, I've removed your proposed deletion of The Design and Evolution of C++. I'd say it is probably the second most important book about C++, after The C++ Programming Language and that book is unfortunately also still a stub (added at the same time by me). --MarSch 14:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I expect a lot can be written about it. --MarSch 16:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Atherton Hall deletion

Hey, thanks for your message. I've checked out your AFD for the subject article and it looks fine to me. It can be a bit onerous trying to WP:AFD something but if you use the instructions then you can't go too far wrong. Once you place the {{subst:afd1}} at the top of your chosen page, you can select the Preloaded debate link within the AFD template and the dirty work is done for you... Hope that helps. Feel free to get in touch if you have any other issues to discuss! Cheers. Budgiekiller 22:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting Ohio library articles

Thanks for taking the lead in looking at these articles. As a member of the Wiki Project for Ohio articles, I strongly urge you to take up your case at that project team directly. Articles tagged by and maintained by a dedicated Wiki project team should never be arbitrarily removed or deleted without consensus of that team (which you may easily get, but the team needs to know!). Thanks, and best wishes! Scott Mingus 17:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I would like to congratulate you for spotting and listing these articles for deletion. I'm a librarian, and I want as many articles about libraries that make sense, but this does not make sense, and diverts efforts from writing articles about the many important ones that deserve to be written about.

The person who started them has also been adding many inappropriate category tags, etc., and he should use his energy more productively. I am now reverting the "American Magazine" tags he put on many many UK journals. He doesn't seem to know geography, but maybe he will learn some here. (smile)

I am in general an inclusionist, but I think the other stuff you are listing on AfD are things that should be deleted & I'll support you on the articles where support is necessary. See you there. DGG 22:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello, this is a stock message addressed to some active participants in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adams County Public Library. The debate is closed and the result was merge all to their respective locales. You are invited to help with carrying out the mergers; please see the instructions in the AfD closing note. Sandstein 21:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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