Talk:Bradford Riot

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Contents 1 Re-write 2 Reversions 2.1 Suggestions 3 Lidget Green Disturbance

[edit] Re-write

In the wake of the severe abbreviation of this article earlier I gave it a thorough re-write. I tried to use what I could of previous versions but where they contradicted published sources I went with the published sources and much of what I kept I re-wrote. I have removed the cleanup tags but please don't feel that this version is in any way definitive. I fully expect it to be edited mercilessly. MGSpiller 22:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I have cleared up some factual errors by the above writer. 5 June 2006 (RC)

[edit] Reversions

I am reverting several of the points raised by user:82.38.58.18 but as many of these points could easily arise again I'm discussing each on the talk page.

1. all demos were banned

   all the printed sources (BBC etc) seem to agree that the Anti Nazi League march was allowed.

2. An asian man was stabbed in the initial confrontation

   the word stabbed is based on the "red hot curry" report of the court of appeal judgement. I would prefer to read the court records of the appeal court itself as this account may well be biased but without an alternative source I feel it stands for the moment.

3. Stockpiles of petrol bombs and weapons.

   I have not seen this in the reports I have read can this be cited please?

MGSpiller 22:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

• Closure of pubs. This is an interesting point, there are definitly several pubs which have closed permanently in the immedieate aftermath of the riots, the upper globe springs to mind. Can anyone list all or most of them? Also this would be usefully illustrated by a quote (if one exists) from the Muslim comunity illustrating their dislike of pubs. MGSpiller 19:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions

I think this article could be vastly improved - I'd look at the Oldham Riots article for some guidance/consistency/ideas. The article is (currently) too POV, and given that it's such a controversial topic, needs LOTS more referencing!

Just to clarify also - if we say "was brought about as a result of tension between ETHNIC COMMUNITIES" - whilst Ethnic does mean ethinic group of any heritage - to some it automatically means ethnic minority and so should be rephrased... and to continue with "and agitation on the part of the far right" - this is VERY POV without a source. Whilst I agree with the statement, it needs a bit of a re-write to avoid future disputes and then a good reference (a governmental review or such) should make it a more NPOV and verifiable statement. Jhamez84 00:06, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lidget Green Disturbance

This was NOT the famous Bradford Riots of 2001, and in-fact, most of the violence came from a coach party of mostly white youths from outside the area, who attacked a Hindu wedding party in the Coach House public house. Some Muslim youths joined in the distrubance afterwards, in a revenge capacity, attacking the far-right coach party, and also (allegedly) taking vandalising actions against a Hindu-run newsagents shop, and several Hindu-owned cars.

Most of the violence against Hindu people (in this particular mini-distrubance) was caused in the pub, by the white gatecrashers to the Hindu wedding.

Some people on here are sewing mischievious inaccuracies, for whatever end and means.

Let's not stoke tensions by distorting the facts please!

I have correctly asserted the facts illustrated by the link, surrounding Lidget Green. Hopefully the anterior motives surrounding the mischief makers, won't allow the truth to be tarnished with distorted opinion.