User talk:Bormalagurski

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Donate translations of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in YOUR language:

  • - All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
  • - Сва људска бића се рађају слободна и једнака по достојанству и правима. Обдарена су разумом и савешћу, и треба да се односе једна према другима у духу братства.
  • - Ολοι οι άνθρωποι γεννιούνται ίσοι και στην αξιοπρέπεια και στα δικαιώματα. Είναι προικισμένοι με λογική και συνείδηση, και οφείλουν να συμπεριφέρονται μεταξύ τους με πνεύμα αδελφοσύνης.
  • - Все люди рождаются свободными и равными в своем достоинстве и правах. Они наделены разумом и совестью и должны поступать в отношении друг друга в духе братства.
  • - Tous les êtres humains naissent libres et égaux en dignité et en droits. Ils sont doués de raison et de conscience et doivent agir les uns envers les autres dans un esprit de fraternité.
  • - Todos los seres humanos nacen libres e iguales en dignidad y derechos y, dotados como están de razón y conciencia, deben comportarse fraternalmente los unos con los otros.
  • - Të gjithë njerëzit lindin të lirë dhe të barabartë në dinjitet dhe në të drejta. Ata kanë arsye dhe ndërgjegje dhe duhet të sillen ndaj njëri tjetrit me frymë vëllazërimi.
  • - Wszyscy ludzie rodzą się wolni i równi pod względem swej godności i swych praw. Są oni obdarzeni rozumem i sumieniem i powinni postępować wobec innych w duchu braterstwa.
  • Image:Flag of Bosnia-Herzegovina.gif Sva ljudska bića se rađaju slobodna i jednaka u dostojanstvu i pravima. Obdarena su razumom i savješću i trebaju se odnositi jedna prema drugima u duhu bratstva.

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[edit] Hey Boris

Look I'm sorry, again. If you stop pissing me off, then I'll stop. Ok, please, I don't want to be in conflicts but you and other people on Wikipedia kept giving me pressure and problems. Since you are taking away the barnstar from my userpage, go ahead and take mine out from yours. Fair. Thanks for the block on the sr wiki. It should teach me a lesson. Though, I don;t think I need it due to my anger issues on Wikipedia. I am currently trying to be active on bs and sh wikis and am starting up on hr wiki. See ya! Crna Gora (Talk/Contribs/Edit Count) 00:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't think you get it do you? Apology not accepted, stop contacting me. I would gladly remove your barnstar from my page, but I can't because it's protected. If and when it's unlocked, I will surely remove it. And once again, seriously, you have crossed the line when you called me "Serbian whore", because no matter how mad you are, people have limits, and you have crossed mine. No conflicts, just stay the hell away from me. Got it? -- serbiana - talk 00:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I get it, Boris. Look, I know I crossed the line just as you crossed mine. I know my apology was not accepted. I was just telling you that, just so you know. Second of all, learn the language better. I didn't call you whore. Whore is drolja. <Not a personal attack>Are you that stupid or you can't curse on Wikipedia and say the b word?<Not a personal attack> Don't you know that I didn't say whore but actually the b word to you. Sorry for doing that to you, though. I felt really bad because I too have a Serbian friend, who has been friends with me since I was probably baby and maybe a little older. I swear, this is true. I swear, if I did what I do to you to her, I would literally beat the hell out of myself. Ok please just don't start conflicts with me. You didn't quite understand me on the me hating Serbs part. The thing is that I only hate bad Serbs. Otherwise, I like Serbs. At least those who aren't racist to Albanians, Muslims, and/or Montenegrins, which some are. No offense and this is true but Albanians don't like (hate) Serbs. I somewhat want to be an Albanian but not be racist or hate the Serbs though. Ok, so you understand? Crna Gora (Talk/Contribs/Edit Count) 01:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
According to the Krstarica dictionary, the word "kurva" means "whore". "Kurva" is the worst offence I can imagine in Serbian, and I think I know a little bit more about cursing, having lived in Serbia for 16 years, than you. And adding the "Serbian" in front of "whore", just shows how much you really hate Serbs, your stories of "Serbian friends" aren't believable, nor are your stories of how you "only hate bad Serbs", when you clearly wrote "I spit on Serbs". You are dishonest and racist, stop contacting me now. -- serbiana - talk 01:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
By the way, I meant to say I spit on you, you damn Serb. Besides, I was taught that "Drolja" means whore and not kurva. I'm not trying to be dishonest. Not trying to be racist either, though pissing me off big time can make me racist, though. I seriously have anger issues that I have to work out. Besides, I think you're trying to get me blocked from editing on Wikipedia. Is that right Boris or are you trying to piss me off even more? Give me an honest answer. Also, why should I stop contacting you. Wikipedia is a free and open encyclopedia. Anyone can contact anyone hear on wikipedia. Understand that Boris because you'll need to know that. Crna Gora (Talk/Contribs/Edit Count) 01:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I asked you politely not to contact me anymore, from now on I will delete any comment you leave on my page, because you are clearly attacking me personally, any user can see that. You even wrote that I'm a "crazy mad man" in the edit I deleted. "You damn Serb"? You write an insult in the same sentence in which you are apologizing? You're clearly not healthy, so work out your issues on your own, and stay the hell away from me. GOT IT? -- serbiana - talk 01:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] False edit summaries

Dear Bormalagurski, please do not use false edit summaries like you did here: [1]. The edits by Ferick updated demographics, but your edit summary is (Reverting to agreed version) as if he had edited the disputed introduction. Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 06:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

This is not the first time he did this. Here is one more example. Boris was even blocked for this, and I explicitely asked him not to do this anymore, see here. Click on "Newer edit →" links to see him delete my comment.
Boris, I'm sorry to say that you keep exibiting your sneaky behaviour while maintaining polite conversation with other users. -- Ante

[edit] Signature

Your signature is not according to the policy, because it contains images, see WP:SIG for more information. You have been asked to do this before [2]. Please change it to follow signature guidelines. Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 07:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Seconded. Please remove the image. It's very pretty but it ties up resources, images in sigs are considered distruptive. Just zis Guy you know? 11:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I changed the signature (it was kinda getting on my nerves anyway). All the best, --serbiana - talk 00:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page protection

I've unprotected your user page, since you now say you haven't left. I'm still watching it. --ajn (talk) 08:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Well it was about time... Thanks I guess.. --serbiana - talk 00:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ok

Done. :) --Krytan talk 02:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:

It appears that you have forgotten what you wrote to me... at User talk:HolyRomanEmperor/Archive5... you have been very aggressive and rude. --HolyRomanEmperor 13:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

1. I am generally against changing borders.
2. I think the dissolution of the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro is a good thing (more than it's bad).
Oh, where did I lie? --HolyRomanEmperor 14
17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Isn't the dissolution of S&M the changing of borders??? Think about it, now Serbia borders Montenegro... --serbiana - talk 21:10, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism?

I thought infoboxes should include the official name in English as well as in the local language. But you say 21:41, June 29 Kosovo "No, this was not agreed, please don't vandalise, thank you" ... ??? Bondkaka 21:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

  • re: I'm sorry OK, I just didn't know abt that particular agreement. In the history, I notice a lot of vandalism, so maybe Kosovo should be blocked from unauthorized edits? Bondkaka 22:03, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Very sick joke

Hi,

Why did you wrote that VRS captured Serbs instead of Bosniaks, during Srebrenica massacre?

You added word Serb in position marked bold:

On 13 July 1995, executions were conducted in the largest of four warehouses (farm sheds) owned by the Agricultural Cooperative in Kravica. Between 1,000 and 1,500 Serb men had been captured in fields near Sandici and detained in Sandici Meadow.

You show no respect for more than 7000 people killed by memebers of your own nation. This is very sick joke and shows you will never change. AFAIK, you should be blocked forever. -- Ante P..

You wrote on my page: Umm.. what exactly did I do? I though that Serbs were captured and killed in Kravica. Or is that another "Greater-Serbian" propaganda story, the "Butcher of the Balkans" made up... Just stay away from me, I don't want to talk to you/don't respect you. Go away, you nationalist.
Well, I must say that you are playing stupid here. Some Serbs were killed in that area during war in Bosnia, but that part of article was about Srebrenica masacre in 1995, not about massacres in 1991/92. I stated it clearly in my comment, I find it quite hard to believe that any missunderstanding of my words was possible. --Ante Perkovic 13:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
It's about Kravica, not Srebrenica! I didn't see any mention of Serb killings in the Srebrenica article, just Muslim. The Bosniaks are being very sneaky about this and I resent your anti-Serb support. Go away, NEVER contact me again, the next message you leave will be erased. --serbiana - talk 18:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vojvodina

Zezam se bre čoveče, ali treba da pitaš Duju da li misli da je Vojvodina nezavisna, pošto je izbacio rečenicu da se Srbija nalazi u srednjoj Evropi. To je bila poenta. :) PANONIAN (talk) 16:36, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Pa valjda sam time "yet" mislio da ako Vojvodina postane nezavisna, onda nek izbacuje to. :) PANONIAN (talk) 16:39, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Pa ni ja ne mislim da će Vojvodina biti nezavisna, zato sam to i napisao. :) To ti je kao ona izreka "kad na vrbi rodi grožđe, onda možemo Srbiju izbaciti iz srednje Evrope". Nisi skontao fazon, jebi ga. :)) PANONIAN (talk) 16:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey,

I'm sorry that we had that arguement before. You accused me of lying and I didn't lie. Are we OK? --HolyRomanEmperor 14:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

You know, I don't think we've been getting on well recently. Let's end that ;-)

Tēlex has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}} or {{subst:smile2}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!

--Tēlex 19:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OK

OK, I won't insist on returning my comment. Instead, I'll archive it myself. --Ante Perkovic 19:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nesreća

Hteo sam da ti kazem, bila je nesreća. [3] C-c-c-c 22:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HRE

You should be aware that we're facing some serious doubts as to whether anything actually did happen to HRE. This may be nothing more than a nasty hoax by someone who wishes to cause trouble.

I rather hope it is. DS 02:42, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin

Pa nudili su mi već da se kandidujem za admina, ali nemam veemena za to. Komplikovana je procedura, a i posle bi me svi smarali da rešavam njihove sporove i probleme. Stvarno nemam vremena time da se bavim. Nemam inače vremena ni da obavljam adminski posao na srpskoj Vikipediji, a da ne govorimo ovde. PANONIAN (talk) 12:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] regarding Yugoslavs

Hi, I noticed that you continued to revert the article Yugoslavs. While I can understand that you may believe the edits to vandalism, please consider the possibility that this is a content dispute instead. And if the case becomes that this is not vandalism, then I must warn all parties involved not to violate the WP:3RR, 3 revert rule. Instead please use talk pages, both user and article talk pages, in order to discuss potential changes. Please also try to avoid the extensive use of the word "troll". As I feel the other user may have a genuine argument to make. Thanks. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 04:36, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

You have two weeks off. Please read WP:NPA. Your user page is protected again, and this time I won't be removing the protection. --ajn (talk) 06:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Since when is calling a user a troll a personal attack? --serbiana - talk 06:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

It is a personal attack, at least when it is not obvious that it is trolling. Blnguyen | rant-line 06:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Your past record is well-known, and your userpage is not a billboard to draw negative attention towards other users. If they are trolling they will be blocked. If you have serious evidence of this, you should have submitted an RfC or a complaint at WP:ANI rather than a polemic without any diffs, etc.Blnguyen | rant-line 06:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Ugh, past record, past record... Does anyone bother to see what kind of edits I've made recently, and not strangle me with my dark past... Come on, two weeks is too much, and I seriously didn't know that calling someone a troll can get me blocked. If I had, I wouldn't do it, obviously. I ask that you return my page to the edit made before I added the "troll list", or unlock it so I can do it myself, and I propose a new plan. Since whenever I do anything to my user page, Andrew automarically locks it, even if I say Kosovo is Serbia (and I'm not the only one), next time, if my page is locked, I will request an admin to make changes, of course only the ones he sees fair, and even if my page is not locked, I will still contact an admin and tell them that I would like to change something, to avoid this kind of conflict. Also, I would like to be unblocked, because I really didn't know calling someone a troll is an offence, and it's not fair to block me because of rules I'm not aware of. Also, this user has put my name and last name on his user page, citing some oooold comment I made a long time ago. Is that OK? This sounds to me like everyone is picking on me because of my not so glorious past, and when I want to change, and unintentionally make an offence, you all jump on me without any warning. If Andrew or anyone had TOLD me that what I've done is an offence, I would have changed it, but he instead removed it himself and blocked me for two weeks. Think about it, MAYBE you should be more fair and not stick to your predetermined opinion of me. The bottom line is, I didn't know it was an offence, SORRY SORRY SORRY to all the users that I personally attacked, I didn't think it was such a big thing, but since others have said it is, again, I'm honestly SORRY. --serbiana - talk 20:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] fr:Republika Srpska

Hi Bormalagurski, Thanks for your comment on the french Wikipedia about the article fr:Republika Srpska, the flagt has been changed, it was a mistake. Conserning the region, could you be more precise, because, also i did not write this part, the source of the region section seems to be obviously this : Regions of Republika Srpska. Tieum512 07:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, could we continue this conversation here? Thanks, --serbiana - talk 22:26, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WPFY has a new look!

Check out WP:FY. If you wish, you can add {{WPFY}} to your user or talk page to keep in touch with the project. Zocky | picture popups 17:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ahem

I hope you're not claiming that people weren't killed - [4] can hardly be considered neutral in that case. DS 02:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

  • The edits I reverted, I did so because they were, quite plainly, unacceptable. Go for neutrality. No one would dispute that they were a guerilla group, for instance. DS 02:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Invitation to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy

Hi there! I've noticed that you've edited articles pertaining to the Eastern Orthodox Church. I wanted to extend an invitation to you to join the WikiProject dedicated to organizing and improving articles on the subject, which can be found at: WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy. This WikiProject was begun because a need was perceived to raise the level of quality of articles on Wikipedia which deal with the Eastern Orthodox Church.

You can find information on the project page about the WikiProject, as well as how to join and how to indicate that you are a member of the project. Additionally, you may be interested in helping out with our collaboration of the month. I hope you'll consider joining and thank you for your contributions thus far! —A.S. Damick talk contribs 12:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Serbs

Здраво, Борисе. Ти доста често доприносиш чланцима везаним за српске теме на овој Википедији; зашто не погледаш чланак List of Serbs, гдје недостају Иво Андрић у списку српских књижевника и Руђер Бошковић у списку научника? Ја сам додао Андрића, али један корисник из Хрватске је вратио моју измјену. То је стварно нечувено! Ти врло добро знаш да је у поимању сваког Србина добар писац = Иво Андрић. И шта би један просјечан Србин помислио када на чланку List of Serbs види да Андрића нема? А шта би тек помислио да му, не дај боже, неко врати измјену када га дода? Помислио би да је ово једна обична смијурија, а не пројекат који покушава да буде енциклопедија. --Djordje D. Bozovic 15:32, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] E Boriseeee

E pogledaj ovo molim te i procitaj pa reci sta mislis:

All of this is verifiable...sad, but true.

GEORGE W. BUSH 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington, DC 20520

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE


LAW ENFORCEMENT

I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine , in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.

MILITARY

I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam

COLLEGE

I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in Midland , Texas , in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't manage oil in Texas . The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry, including Enron CEO Ken Lay, I was elected governor of Texas .

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS

I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union .

During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America

I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.

With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida , and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT

I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market.

In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, had a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President. I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.

My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution.

More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip- offs in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history.

I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States government.

I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.

I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law. I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S . "prisoners of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.

I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.

I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families-in-wartime.

In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.

I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD. I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden [sic] to justice.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view.

All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.



p.s.Tvoj drugar sa srpske Viki koji je blokiran zbog SS(i sad sam na Srpskoj,ali ne mogu da ti kazem pod kojim imenom jer ce one pedercine Pokrajac i Dungo odma da me drukaju)

Pozdrav brate

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[edit] KLA article

Hi Boris, please calm down. Do not tease or get personal at Ferick and/or call him a vandal. I am leaving the same message at Ferick's page. Thanks, E Asterion u talking to me? 21:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit warring with Ferick

Please stop edit warring with Ferick on Kosovo Liberation Army. Ferick's deletions are unacceptable and I've restored my earlier version, but it's not helpful to bait him as well. I will be taking his misconduct to an user-conduct RFC shortly as a prelude to arbitration, should that be necessary, with a view to banning him from Kosovo-related articles. In the meantime, please don't try to wind him up. -- ChrisO 21:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Starčević

I am glad you are here. We can discuss this now, assuming you are a good Wikipedian and want to discuss things. You and an anonymous user (probably Purger) are constantly returning a slandering and defamatory paragraph to the article Ante Starčević. Why on earth are you doing this? When I put my explanation on the talk page here, the anonymous user replied with phrases like "utter nonsense" and "I have nothing to prove to you", which really did not help. You, on the other hand, said absolutely nothing about why the paragraph should stay. Do you like edit warring? It is stupid and you know it. After all, you are not a newbie here. So how about going to the article's talk page and explaining the reasons for what you are doing? --Zmaj 22:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

No reply from you yet, so I am going to sleep. If you give no reasons for your behavior in a day or two, I will remove the paragraph again. --Zmaj 22:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ferick RfC

I've posted a user-conduct request for comments on Ferick following his latest bout of edit-warring - it's time to put an end to it. Please feel free to add your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ferick. -- ChrisO 01:10, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Помоћ

ЕмЕсЕн немам, а и моје знање енглеског је доста лоше. Ако имаш нпр. два реверта са шиптарима слободно кажи па ћу ја нешто да ревертујем да не добијеш трећи. --Jovanvb 13:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ferick

Go to the RfC page.. --KOCOBO 19:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Priština article

Boris, there is a survey going on that you can see if you scroll down the Priština talk page. Do not remove the tag. It simply informs people that this is undergoing (not the actual move). E Asterion u talking to me? 20:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arbitration request on Kosovo

Dear Editor, since you have been involved in editing the Kosovo article in the last months, and that article has been the subject of long ongoing edit wars, your name is listed in the Request for Arbitration on this matter. You can make a statement here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Kosovo. Due to the large number of editors involved, however, I would to ask you to keep your statement concise and to the point. If you feel you have not been substantially involved in the disputes surrounding the Kosovo article, please do not remove your name from the Arbitration request, but rather make a short statement there explaining why you feel you have not been involved enough to be part it. To understand my reasons for requesting Arbitration, please read my statement on the Requests for Arbitration page. Best regards, Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 10:16, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You Support George Bush

You say you support George Bush, He is an idiot who doesn't know anything but to blame problems on other people even though he and his dad were the ones who created the problem in the first place. --Marbus2 5 12:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

That is your opinion. Bush has been the one that has blocked any international recognition of Kosovo and Metohija to this day and has given millions of dollars in aid to Serbia over the last 5 years. Thank you Mr. Bush :) --serbiana - talk 20:32, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Einstein pic

Hi Boris,

Sorry for the delay in replying, what with all the other chatter on my talk page I missed your request. I've temporarily unprotected your user page to enable you to add the pic - I suggest you use Image:Albert Einstein Head.jpg, as it's in the public domain and won't have any fair use problems. -- ChrisO 09:43, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Voting

You may want to express your opinion here. --Svetislav Jovanović 01:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ICTY Findings cannot be disputed

International Crimes Tribunal's final judgments and findings cannot be disputed. Before you make any Srebrenica Massacre changes or edits, first discuss them in article's discussion page. If you believe that international justice is not fair to Serbs, that's your problem, not mine. We will not allow destruction of Srebrenica massacre article by extremist elements within Serbian people. Hope you understand. Bosniak 03:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

One more thing: I do support universal declaration of human rights that can be found on your page. I will also translate the sentence into Bosnian language and post it to my page. Hope more people do the same. Bosniak 03:22, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bosniak response to Boris's msg

I keep my nationalism at home, which is not the case with you. You want to impose your nationalism to Wikipedia's Srebrenica Massacre article, which will not happen. That I can promise you. We had other Serbs in the past trying to destroy Srebrenica Massacre article with thier lies and propaganda, they failed. You will fail too. Cheers. Bosniak 03:38, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] woah

How come u guys get to change it as many times to your propaganda and im not allowed to write the truth. And anyway DONT GIVE ME THESE CHEAP SHOTS by writing Croatian War Of Sessesion on my talk page. Mate i dont no how but Serb Nationalists on wiki are really starting to give me the shweppes.

THE MILJAKINATOR 03:48, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Schweppes

Schweppes is just a word u say instead of shit. Anyway because of ur cheap shots u really are doing that. The article will remain and is remaining as the Croatian war of independence. And can u EXPLAIN TO ME why u are allowed to revert as many times back to ur propaganda on that page and i cant????

As for nationalist, dude i want the ebst for Croatia but more importantly I WANT the Truth. hOWEVER THE TRUTH seems an awful lot in Croatias favour.

Cheers

THE MILJAKINATOR 03:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Bosniak's reply to Boris Hi Boris, of course we can deal in civilized matter. Why do you think that the article is not neutral? Can you at least discuss this in Srebrenica Massacre's discussion page? If you want your edits to stay longer, you need to discuss it before you make any changes. People are very sensitive to any changes to that article. Even when I make a change, they are sensitive to it. Why do you think that the article does not tell all sides of the story? Are you trying to tell that Naser Oric attacked Serb villages and Serbs had to defend themselves from Bosniaks who were under siege? You guys used same argument in the past with Sarajevo, basicly the story goes that you had to defend yourself from Bosniak people in Sarajevo who were under siege. You can try these arguments in discussion page, but it's pointless and offensive to use such arguments as a defence. However, you are welcome to try. Simply go to discussion page, tell people reasons of your edits and sources and then we will all compromise. It's simple as that. No need for personal attacks as we can all deal in civilized matter. Bosniak 03:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

One more thing - I already donated my translation to your page, and I copied your translations to my page. I think there is a chance that both of us get along well, because you recognized t hat over 8,000 people were killed in Srebrenica @ Srebrenica Massacre discussion page. That's all I care about. Bosniak 03:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Boris - regarding Serb side of the story

If you want Serb side of the story, why not post this statement: "Most Serbs consider the massacre an act of revenge against Naser Oric and his troops who committed individual war crimes during raids into Serb villages."

The reason these raids cannot be called massacres is the following: Serbs blame Oric and his forces for hundreds of deaths in Kravice during Orthodox Christmas in January 1993. Republika Srpska primary sources state that in Kravica 35 soldiers and 11 civilians died. If we are going to call slaughter of 11 civilians a massacre, then we could apply that term to mostly all killings in Bosnia. What I can agree with you is that individual actions of Oric's troops in Kravica were a war crime and I absolutely condemn these killings. However, they cannot be used for justification of genocide, and I don't believe you are trying to use them as such. Bosniak 04:15, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civilized Compromise

Hi Boris, POV is no longer needed. I agree that the following statement needs to be inserted, and I inserted it:

"Most Serbs consider the massacre an act of revenge against Naser Oric and his troops who committed individual war crimes during raids into Serb villages" Bosniak 04:46, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 16:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Borise...

Prva sramota je kako se ponasao oko Srebranice, to je jednostavno sramota. Ja nejdem na Srpske clanke i vandaliziram. Neka ih bude ali vandaliziranje je sramota. Vi imate svoje misljenje i ja to znam, ali ne mozes tako pisati na wikipediji. Sami su ti i tvoji rekli to. Drzi misljenja za sebe. Ali ja da vidim kako vandaliziras clanke dok si mi vodio laz za ujedinjenu BiH. To je preslo sve granice. Mislis da bi jevreji bili stretni da im vand. radis. Misli? Ja sam mislio da si stvarno cestit covjek. Nemam nista da ti kazem. Ne znam kako se isplatilo izgubiti admin status.

Pozdrav i hvala, Kseferovic 19:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stop silly edit war

Please ..stop the edit war. It's clear that users who are Serb, Croat and Bosnian are all equally guilty of trying to influnce and change articles the way they want.

Wikipedia is to blame as giving power to edit is wrong. Articles should be left alone. If you view this as unfair...write a book , creat a website.

I don't see why some Serbs continue to change facts about Croatia and Croatians and give it/them some link to Serbia. What do you get out of that? I only see Croats argue Tesla origin while Serbs pick on anything Croat they can find, from Boscovich to Dalmatia.

The Balkan war was a joke...the politicans turned brother against brother.. We need to all move on...keep Serb POV out of Srebernica ...we all know what went on..no point hiding that.

I see it as an eye for eye....Serbs started it way back and that had a knock down effect...everyone is to blame today...no point disputing that. Shame about the living standards now, while under Yugoslavia people had jobs and bread.

Everyone has independence now ...we all got what we wanted

Hope you reply

Jagoda 1 23:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Napravite red u Tesla article

Jebeni hrvati uvek promene da je bio croatian kad je bio srbin. Jebem jim mamu

RED!!!!

Now you know how we Croats feel when Serbs change facts about Croats such as Rudjer Boscovich, Ivo Andric, John Malkovich etc etc...that goes on and on...yet Croats only edit Tesla form what i can see.

For the record Tesla is Serb i agree. Jagoda 1 23:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Respect

I have respect for everyone on this planet. I agree with Mihovil "Propaganda has spilled onto wikipedia" Shame about loss of life.

I lost two cousins from Serb snipers yet today these same relatives welcome Serbs as tourists into Dalmatia. They said WAR IS OVER and these tourists didn't kill my sons. Most people hated the war in Balkans and the fact it went on was all about politics and greed. Do we still hate Germans after WW1 and WW2???? NO.

PS Tesla was Serb of Vlah/Serb origins...the fact he was born in Croatia should be mentioned. I see nothing wrong with that.


PS Kosovo is a problem as Albanians do have some right to that land as they do to most of the Balkans (if they are Illyrians as some say). They were there before Serbs and Croats, we booted them out way back in 7th Century hahah...the other problem was Tito made a big mistake in settling them back there. Albanians took over the place and now want independence from Serbia which is wrong. It's a no win situation for Serbs, give Albs an inch and they have taken a mile haha. Croatia might one day have same problem with Istra with Italians also claiming the region.

Funny how USA got Hawaii and Serbs have to fight for Kosovo haha

Respect.... Jagoda 1 23:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Wiki

Yes, Wiki does have a huge problem with what i call BAD FAITH EDITS from all sides. Problem here is that Wiki is still allowing people to change things when what Wiki should do is leave articles as before(not allow edits) and just provide new links for people to voice different opinion. Eg For Boscovich leave him as Croat ...but somewhere write Possible Serb Origin Theory and provide link,...popular belief should be left alone and untouched. No point calling him Serb on Wiki when every book says he was Croatian/Italian.


Tourism in Croatia is fine with Serbs...sure you will get the odd idiot who wants trouble. In 2002 a Serbian flag towl was left on the beach for 4 days, untouched...this proved how much people cared ...very little as if they did they would have burnt it. Trust me their is no problem with Serbs going to Croatia. Few times i have been i have seen heaps of them, many even show the cyrllic passport as id haha...i have seen it with my own eyes. funny stuff...as we cant read cyrillic.(some oldies can)


Tesla is a tough debate...if you include that he was Vlah that would rule our Serb and Croat for that matter. Iam happy to say he was Serb, born in Croatia, his family origin was Vlah or maybe Serb. My grandfather was born under Austia-Hungary too..on his grave stone in Australia it says born Dalmatia Yugoslavia...and he was Croat...confused hahaha I think Tesla was born in Croatia as he said it was his homeland many times.



Tito was a war hero..the propaganda machine true or false made him out to be a war hero. There is many stories about him some inlude that he died in WW2 etc... What ever the case Tito made a huge mistake in Kosovo.

Vuk Karadzic is to blame for most Serb bad POV. some of his views are ok but some are very Serbsided.


Re other Wiki users...i like Panonian, very unbias guy. Ante seems ok, he's just peed off a little.


Jagoda 1 04:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] rfc on a new wikiproject

As founder of WP Serbia, I just wanted to see if you care to comment on the following Miscellany for deletion. // Laughing Man 22:09, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject

Нисам звао све редом већ како сам на кога налетао управо да бих избегао оптужбе да сам масовно звао кориснике. Додатно сам рачунао да ће сви људи активни на Википројекту Србија видети обавештење које сам поставио тамо. Nikola 21:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)



[edit] Anti Croat project

I would like to know why some Serb(s) out there has found the need to make Serb Pov edits to all things to with Croatians and Croatia. Someone has deleted Croatian Famous people etc... I don't see Croats doing that to Serb related articles? Why does soemone keep doing that and by doing that add fuel to the fire?

As i see it, Serbs can be found editing most things Croat or Croatian, something like 85% of articles have had Serb Pov added in some shape or form. Croats have little interest in Serb related articles. Why is there such a difference in interest?


HAVE A GOOD DAY Jagoda 1 04:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Serb population

11 million Serbs 4 Million Croats mmmmmmmmmmmm

Have you ever been to America, Canada, Australia, Argentina, Chile, New Zealand etc....i think you will quickly find out Croats out number the Serbs by a huge margin. I would also like to say that the Macedonians out number Serbs in those countries too.

A good example would be the Australian soccer team had 7 Croats and 1 Macedonian at the World Cup...Serbs 0.... But you see this margin in not just in soccer but in people you meet...anyoone with a "ic" last name is asked "Are you Croatian???" nobody askes if they are Serb.


Just a note ...incase you didn't know mate.


Jagoda 1 04:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Support

You should support this. Cheers --TheFEARgod (listening) 12:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Enough

Boris, either you start behaving and stop trolling (i.e. moving pages out of process, etc) or sooner or later you will get community banned. You are going too far.--Asteriontalk 07:29, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Temporary injunction in the Kosovo arbitration

For the duration of this case, any of the named parties may be banned by an uninvolved administrator from Kosovo or related pages for disruptive edits.

You are receiving this message because you are one of those covered by this injunction.

For the arbitration committee. --Tony Sidaway 17:51, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editing privileges revoked

As per Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Kosovo, for engaging in disruptive editing on a Kosovo related page and having been one of the parties listed on the case, you have been banned from editing until this is sorted out. Note that this is a ban, not a block, which means that identified sockpuppets of you either per a)obvious reckognition or b)checkuser will be blocked immediately and the block will be recorded as per ArbCom enforcement. You can still contact users via email or this talk page. This may be highly incovenient, but the diruptive editing to a group of articles has gotten way out of control. Voice-of-All 23:21, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Umm, I didn't make a single edit to any Kosovo-related article after I was warned to stay away from such article. So, why am I banned? --Serb talk 23:48, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
The ArbCom injuction had already passed however. I doubt that you will stay blocked forever, and it should not be to long before a more permanent decision is reached.Voice-of-All 00:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I see that the warning by Tony did come about 23 hours after the injuction passed. Considering how serious it is, I'd rather you be warned fully first. For that reason, I am unblocking you. Though please adhere to that injuction, as it will be enforced.Voice-of-All 00:20, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, but it says that I'm still blocked. I looked at the block log, and I can see that you unblocked me, but when I try to edit something, it still says that I'm blocked. What's going on? --Serb talk 01:26, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Should be fixed now.Voice-of-All 01:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, all is good now. I appreciate your understanding of my situation, and I guarantee you that I will stay away from Kosovo-related articles. --Serb talk 01:35, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] C ya

Take Care user Serb. I have left Wiki.

With respect


Jagoda 1 03:53, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked again

The inflammatory sopabox image on your userpage is the last straw I'm afraid. Following the personal attack on Bosniak that I warned you about, you immediately resumed disruptively revert-warring without discussion once Dmcdevit unlocked a group of Balkan pages, then moved Croatian War of Independence disruptively, used wind-up edit summaries, eg in ref to Nikola Tesla being a Serb etc and lampooned other editors in an already tense spehere of editing, wrt to the thing about 5.5 people. you have been blocked for a week. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 04:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject

Dakle, nisam ti odgovarao zato sto inace nisam imao vremena a hteo sam da razmotrim sta je dobro uraditi na WP:AMA. Sad sam napravio podstranicu Vikiprojekta Srbija posvecenu istom cilju. Nikola 22:32, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit war

I think Wiki is too driven by POV on all thing Serbian and Croatian. Both sides go to great lengths to edit articles into what they want. In my view, allowing editing on Wiki is wrong. That's the problem. Nobody is in control of the edits. Administrators have turned a blind eye. So everyday you see an article being fought over and turned into POV.


As a Australian/Croat i have read many articles relating to Croats and Croatia on Wiki and most have had someone Serb Pov added to them. Now sure some articles such as Tesla have had Croat Pov edits.....so both sides are guilty.


In the eyes of all non Serb or non Croat people we seem stupid...fighting over who or what is Serbian and Croatian.


RE Popullation statistics...we need DNA testing and not just asking people what are you?....a Serb who settled in Croatia 500 years ago is today called a Croat..rendering % of Serbs in Croatia wrong, because that guy isn't counted as Serb...Same goes for Ivica Kralj a proud Montenegrin Serb but by name and origin he is Croat, yet he passes himslef as Montenegrin when statistics are done...get my drift.........it's a mess...we're all mixed to tell ya the truth..


PS How different are we? Croats and Serbs have more things a like than any other people on earth. We look the same, speak the same and we have a common root of origin....

I think you will understand me when i say we're fighting a stupid battle.

Jagoda 1 04:43, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Norac

Hi,

You might help in eliminating this ugly article

[edit] Вандал ????

Можеш ли да ми објасниш зашто си ме уклонио са списка људи који учествују у Википројекту Србија ? И то уз коментар "removed vandals". Да ли ти ја личим на вандала, и да ли сам се икада понео тако. Заиста претерујеш све могуће границе. Бога има и надам се да си тога свестан. --SasaStefanovic • 15:49, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProjectSerbia

Zar nije neobično što članovi WikiProjectSerbia podržavaju nezavisnost Kosova?

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[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo

This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.

For edit warring, personal attacks, and other disruption, PerfectStorm/C-c-c-c is banned from editing Wikipedia for one year. For edit warring and incivility, Bormalagurski is banned from editing Wikipedia from one year. For edit warring and disruptive use of sockpuppets, Dardanv under any username or IP, is banned from editing Wikipedia for one month.

Hipi Zhdripi is limited to his one named account, Hipi Zhdripi. All edits by Hipi Zhdripi under another account or an IP address shall be treated as edits by a banned user.

Ilir pz, Hipi Zhdripi, Vezaso are banned for one year from editing articles related to Kosovo. Relation to Kosovo is to be interpreted broadly so as to prevent gaming. Either may be banned from any related non-article page for disruptive editing. All articles related to Kosovo are put on Article probation to allow more swift dealing with disruption. Editors of Kosovo and related articles who engage in edit warring, incivility, original research, or other disruptive editing, may be banned for an appropriate period of time, in extreme cases indefinitely.

ChrisO is warned not to engage in edit warring, and to engage in only calm discussion and dispute resolution when in conflict. He is instructed not to use the administrative rollback tool in content disputes and encouraged to develop the ability and practice of assisting users who are having trouble understanding and applying Wikipedia policies in doing so. .

Dardanv, Ferick, Laughing Man, Osli73, and Tonycdp are placed on Probation for one year. Each may be banned from any page or set of pages for disruptive edits, such as edit warring or incivility.

Ilir pz, Hipi Zhdripi, Vezaso, Dardanv, Ferick, Laughing Man, Osli73, and Tonycdp are placed on standard revert parole for one year. Each is limited to one revert per article per week, excepting obvious vandalism. Further, each is required to discuss any content reversions on the article's talk page.

For the Arbitration Committee. Arbitration Committee Clerk, 03:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Per RFAr/Kosovo remedy. "For edit warring and incivility, Bormalagurski is banned from editing Wikipedia from one year." Done. --FloNight 07:00, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Belgrade

You have been temporarely evicted from Wikipedia:WikiProject Belgrade. This is due to your one-year block from editing. We will be waiting for you and will be glad if you decide to stay with us after one year's time. I'm also sure that your penalty may be decreased in due time. --PaxEquilibrium 13:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Vancouver

This is an important message being sent out too all participants. We are currently recalling our list of participants. Any one who is inactive in the project will be moved to the "inactive" list respectively. See the project talk page for more details -- Selmo (talk) 20:43, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Boki

Borise uz tebe sam,vidim da te je olos blokirao,ali ne brini,radim na nasoj stvari i ovde i na drugoj Vikipediji,razumeces da ne mogu vise da kazem kako bih izbegao da budem blokiran ponovo,ali bice sve dobro,ko im jebe mater,oni misle da mogu sve odavde da nas poizbacuju,e malo su se zajebali.

Pozdrav

YXYX 17:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] oh man...

I should've known it was you... lol... as I read more and more about u on ur user page I started to think who could this be... Serb.. from Subotica.. lives in Canada... then I find out lives in vancouver... and then I start reading in order and find out that it's that kid who came into Sarna's class and developed a crush on Ema :P It's all good, she's very pretty heheh... it's Iva btw, Ema's friend. i see you got blocked for a year... tsk tsk.. (Ps: u spelled 'useful' wrong :P) Stop The Lies 03:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)Stop_The_Lies

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