Talk:Bollywood films and plagiarism
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We asked people to cite at least one review claiming plagiarism, and discuss the pros and cons at the article for the film. No one is bothering to do that. People are just putting up accusations and leaving. Are we going to have to do a weekly prune of allegations that don't meet the standard? Zora 23:44, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Sarkar cannot be considered a plagerized movie. In no shape or form did that movie copy anything from the Godfather aside from the way Abhishek Bachchan sat in the chair (in the manner of Michael Corleone) for a few minute scene near the end of the movie. And Ram Gopal Verma specifically said that his movie was inspired by the Godfather, even though the stories of both movies are extremely different. Namantra 14 July 2006
Fight Club is also completely different than the American Fight Club. Same name doesn't mean plagarized. Which makes me wonder if people who add these actually watch the movies.... Namantra 6 August 2006
- Respectfully, have you actually seen both movies? The font and some of the background music is lifted directly from the American version. And the "rules of fight club" refered to twice the the Hindi version is one of the most famous parts of the American Version. It's really hard to miss that. --Richrobison 00:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Rewrite
Due to the failure of this list to be maintained at acceptable standards of verifiability, a proposed rewrite has been started here. See also the Indian cinema WikiProject's talk page. --Sam Blanning(talk) 17:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
- I support Samuel's initiative and have added another film to the rewrite. This article is out of control now. It is full of baseless accusations. Zora 00:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think it's safe to just replace what's there now with the rewrite. I am little worried about "plagiarism" because there is a lot of borrowing which shouldn't exactly be classified under the label of plagiarism... gren グレン 07:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Done. A few things I should mention:
- I didn't write up Jo Bole So Nihaal -- Crocodile Dundee, for which a source was added here, but the source is very much a passing mention and didn't give me anything to go on. I tried searching on Factiva, but found no articles that mentioned the similarity.
- I did write up Ek Ajnabee -- Man on Fire, but realised afterwards that as the makers never claimed that it wasn't a remake, it doesn't deserve to be called 'plagiarism'. I posted it on User talk:Samuel Blanning/Hindi films and plagiarism, which is now a redirect, but if anyone strongly disagrees they can look in the history.
- I removed "Film songs alleged to contain plagiarism", which is more an advert for the site it links to than a reliable source of songs that can be said to have been plagariased. I also removed "Bahasa Indonesia songs inspired by Hindi songs" - the only link [1] is a 404.
There's also a commented-out bit at the top of the list which makes clear that sources are expected, and if anyone knows of a verifiable case but doesn't know how to use inline citation, they're welcome to nominate films on this talk page. I hope that this new layout satisfies everyone. It should certainly be easier to maintain, and I no longer think deletion is necessary. --Sam Blanning(talk) 16:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sources
Although I have not added any movies to this article, I've removed the prod, and added five refs. Will add more. utcursch | talk 16:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- Looks like we had an edit conflict with our last posts to this page. When I rewrote the article I incorporated your references on Main Aisa Hi Hoon and Zinda, and I've explained why I haven't included Jo Bole So Nihaal and Ek Ajnabee. That leaves Phir Hera Pheri, which I forgot to mention above. I couldn't quite understand from the reviews where the similarities were, and I haven't seen Phir myself, so I wasn't able to write it up. I'd be happy if you or someone else could add it back, though. --Sam Blanning(talk) 16:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] KAANTE
Kaante, the 2002 movie, directed by Sanjay Gupta totally ripped off Quentin Tarintino's Reservoir Dogs. Though it also stole from The Usual Suspects.
- According to a Times of India article I found, Gupta "doesn't shy from admitting that the film is a remake of Quentin Tarantino's Reservoir Dogs". In my opinion if you acknowledge your source, it's not plagiarism. --Sam Blanning(talk) 13:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think it is still plagiarism because he doesn't acknowledge the source in the movie(in the credits), isn't that right? Fkh82 22:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chori Chori and Dil hai to maanta nahin
Both based on It Happened One Night
[edit] Karma
[edit] Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar
[edit] Baazigar
[edit] Papi Gudiya
[edit] Ek Ruka Hua Faisla
[edit] Qaidi
[edit] Webpage for list
I found following webpage has list of movies. Not sure which will be qualified as plagiarised ones from wikipedia standard. http://www.akhilesh.in/life/india/bollywoodinspirations.php
