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[edit] Guggenheim and EMP

I think the Experience Music Project is blobbier than the Guggenheim. The article says that the Guggenheim is the epitome of this, I'm not sure. We need to read the Safire article, cite it and get more info as to what he was talking about. We also need the Greg Lynn book that talks about this. DVD+ R/W 20:26, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

To clarify, I was talking about this statement, "Blobitecture originated in the buildings of Frank Gehry, and is epytomised by the Guggenheim Museum Bilbao" which makes sense in many ways. But, I bring up the EMP to compare because of it has fewer folded planes and delineated or cut edges than the Guggenheim Bilbao and others by Gehry. The EMP and Kunsthaus Graz both have highly smoothed and fluid surfaces (except the spouts on the top of Graz and a couple of cut planes around some openings of the EMP), and seem to me to be more gelatinous and liquid than most. Selfridges and Allianz Arena, though both good examples formally, seem to have panels which to me detract from blob architecure criteria(?) at the level of façade detail. DVD+ R/W 23:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I've added Folds, Bodies & Blobs by Greg Lynn to the biblio (though I haven't read it yet), I know it is pertinent to this. DVD+ R/W 02:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I added 1 EMP pic to the article. I'll go there and take more (esp. interiors). Here are two to consider from the EMP article. DVD+ R/W 02:19, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

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Monorail tracks going through the EMP building

[edit] Quality control reject

Might be useful if we can't get something of better quality
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Might be useful if we can't get something of better quality

[edit] Two more Graz pics

Kunsthaus, Graz

Moved from article, these should go in the Kunsthaus Graz article eventually. We should probably have 1 of each building in the article.

[edit] Some quick notes

Some rounded buildings or designs, or architects of such:

I wonder if the literature postulates an evolution from Bucky Fuller's geodesic dome through the Eden Project (essentially combining the geometric simplicity of a geodesic dome with more forms to create structurally efficient structures analogous to soap bubbles) to the freer forms of the later blobitecture, selfridges, kunsthaus etc. but perhaps this is WP:OR? I'm also a little uncomfortable with "Blobitecture has been made by many architects who were a part of deconstructivism," Other than Gehry - who else? - is this citable? On another tack, I wonder if Frei Otto's and Günter Behnisch's tensile structures might be a contributing influence on the free forms (although, again, like geodesic domes there's much more structural rationale here) - Some thoughts to chew on anyway. --Mcginnly | Natter 14:25, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok I removed that sentence about decon, might bring something like that back later though ;-) I think those tensile structures and domes are influences. I'll look more for more sources. DVD+ R/W 18:12, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
About that sentence though- Eisenman, Koolhaas, Hadid, Himmelb(l)au, and Tschumi, have all proposed or designed buildings that seem (to me) to be blobs or have blob sections. And, I'm pretty sure Greg Lynn was a project architect for Eisenman during Wexner Center's design so he might be considered decon as well (at least early on). Some newer groups such as Asymptote, FOA, and others should be considered in this article, though I don't know if their earlier work was decon or not. Also, it won't be easy to find direct sources for much of this article since it is a new phenomenon or at least a new term for an older one, though they are out there, but you're right that we need them. DVD+ R/W 19:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Golden Terraces

I found pictures of this building at the Commons and immediately thought of this article. I started a translation (which I will probably base more on the Arup page and other english sources) of the article from pl: here User:DVD R W/Złote Tarasy, but have slowed down by not knowing any Polish language and the architect's statements about this place which are seemingly (and bafflingly to me) New Urbanist. These statements are here [1] (sorry it is a flash site and so I don't know how to link directly). It also might be hard to find any mentions of this and blobs, in webpages or books, but I'll look. DVD+ R/W 18:23, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] For a section on computers

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