Talk:Black Jews

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04:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)68.253.254.196Google for Black Jews, this article seems to be a pride article with a long list. Very questionable, and would consider deleting. I added some information about the real Black Jews (the religious movement) which needs to be expanded, but the list came before and it's not clear whether they are mainstream Jews, Jews by association (hereditary but many are not practicing and do not identify as Jewish), or part of the Black Jews movement.

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[edit] This is not a disambig page

This is not a disambig - it's an article. I will remove the {{disambig}} if there are no objections.--Commander Keane 16:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] merge

The Black Hebrews section should really be merged with the Black Hebrews article, and mentioned here only in passing, as they are far from the only group of Black Jews, claimed or recognized as such. TomerTALK 04:39, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] African American?

Why is this part of African American topics? Isn't this first and formost a black topic. There's always this will of dividing black people into small groups. Doesn't this concern the rest of the "black world", in the Caribbean, Brazil and Africa. There's a few jews in Africa as well, hence this shouldn't be a stricly African American topic.

As "black" is an adjective, I would say this is first and foremost a Jewish topic, which is why I made the recommendation I made in the section ("merge") above. Tomertalk 02:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] They are different

First, "black jews" are any Jew that happens to be black.

The "Black Hebrews" are specific group of people.

No merge.

talk 02:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Black Jews / List of Black Jews

Black Jews / List of Black Jews look a lot like one another right now. There should be one page that is a Template:disambig for "Black Jews" and one page that is an actual list for "List of Black Jews," with a Template:dablink at the top. Someone mind doing the cutting, pasting, comparing, and alphabetizing? —  <TALKJNDRLINETALK>    

[edit] Mothers Line

Judaism is matriarchal. You can only be a Jew via the female line if not converted, and those listed as Jews via their fathers cannot be called Jews. Dainamo 12:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


How do you know that modern Jews are even related to ancient Hebrews? Today, there are no people Hebrew by blood. Most to all are European converts. Judaism now, is a practice, not a race.

--Vehgah 02:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think you know much about Jews. For instance, cohanim from India to Ethiopia to Miami have specific genes in common. This is because the only way to be a cohen is to be descended from one. It is true that a good chunk of the Ashkenazi Jewish population is from European conversion (much less than half, though), but I don't really see how that pertains to the subject of Black Jews. anon

It doesn't pertain to the article, just the list of so-called "black jews". For clarity I am describing what Judaism defines as a Jew. Unless convereted you are not a Jew if your mother was not one I'm not sure of the correct term, but Afro-Hebrew sounds good but unlikely. I rather suspect it would be more correct to stick to the national origins of the Jewish dexcent e.g. Polish, Israeli etc. Dainamo 17:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2 Lists

there are 2 lists of black jews. the one in this article and the one that this article refers to. there differ. can someone fix this? and shouldn't we just have one list, so that we do not have to update both lists all of the time?

Thoughts???????????????

Tx.

--Epeefleche 22:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding place-holder heading

I added a heading of "Types" over the "Mainstream Judaism / Beta Israel" and "" sections. I don't think "Types" is the best choice, but the two sections needed something to contain them (as they weren't quite appropriate to upgrade to level 2 heads). Feel free to change it. EVula 17:26, 6 September 2006 (UTC)



It seems like there is a problem with the truth about Jacob and Esau(Edom). What is the true race or should I say color of the Hebrews during the time of Moses and the Egyptian's Pharoah mix up. The holy bible isn't blasphemous about the truth about Israel and God's chosen people. That's why white christians try to keep the world and the black american race out of the old testament studies by verbally blaspheming the lord's commandments. I know who you are Esau(Edom), and Jesus Knows too. Revalation 2:9

Peace be unto all nations in Jesus name one of the "lost tribes of JUDAH"

[edit] Rabbi Regina Smith?

Who is regina smith? Google only turns up one hit (wikipedia) for "Rabbi regina smith." Though there are several for rabbi "regina smith," none seem to indicate a notable black jew. Anyone have any sources for this? Avraham 05:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)