Talk:Bishopstone, East Sussex

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[edit] Proposed Merge

Is this the same "Bishopstone" referred to in Tide Mills, East Sussex, with the Bishopstone Beach Halt station that was also known as Tide Mills Station?

If so, then the two articles need to be combined and enhanced.Fiddle Faddle 20:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

As edits to this article have shown, the places are linked closely enough for a formal merge to be considered. However, each place was also distinct, and local identities will have grown up while Tide Mills was occupied and a working village. Thus there are pros and cons of merging or of staying separate.
Pro seems to me to be the keping of all historical data of the derelist area and archaeologicla site together with Bishopstone, together with not diluting any of the combined local history
Con seems to me to be the wealth of historical data that will appear when the archaeological work onthe Tide Mills (and wider) sites delivers results, potentially in 2006.
While it seems that currently only a very few editors are interested in either location, users will become interested as the aecheology progresses.
May I suggest that further discussion is interspersed between here and a vote?
Fiddle Faddle 09:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Further Merge Discussion

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[edit] Issues assuming the merge proceeds

[edit] Lord Sheffield or the Duke of Newcastle?

Tide Mills states "Duke of Newcastle. with attribution, Bishopstone states Lord Sheffield, no attribution yet. Which is correct, or are they the same person?Fiddle Faddle 09:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The copyvio

Well that (Revision as of 13:09, 23 April 2006) seems to have pretty much detrmined the outcome (currently) of the proposed merge :-). However, when this is resolved, the discussion about which page goes where should probably resume Fiddle Faddle 12:19, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Tide Mills area

The area of Tide Mills was not, according to correspondence with Newhaven Local & Maritime Museum demolished by gunfire from the fort, but to provide a clear field of fire against German invading forces. I have edited that paragraph to reflect this correspondence. Additionally I have asked the museum to take some time to look the articles over. IMO it seems right both to record the myth that they have stated to be a myth about the demolition (and attribute the source) together with the correction that they stated. The outcome was the same. The village was destroyed for military reasons, and doubtless wuth explosions that will have appeared to be the results of an artillery barrage Fiddle Faddle 08:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge?

I think there is every justification for having separate articles for Bishopstone, East Sussex, East Blatchington and Tide Mills, East Sussex. Clearly they need to link between each other but Wikipedia is very receptive to place name articles. See for example Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Silverknowes where my suggestion that some merges might be appropriate was overruled by a simple keep all. -- RHaworth 17:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)