Talk:Biphobia

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Surely confusion, living the swinging lifestyle and promiscurity are stereotypes also given to homosexuals (especially the 'swinging lifestyle'). Are there any better examples? -A

I agree. But I think the assumption that no male is bisexual, only gay and in denial is far too prevalent in conventional wisdom today. This is, most commonly, a conclusion come to and quoted by fiercly heterosexual males or homophobic people as a way to deny to themselves the actual capacity of a "real man" to be attracted to both sexes (maybe as a way to deny to themselves the possibility that they are included in this). They degrade it by calling it just plain "gay," and since they aren't "gay" they no longer have to fear that they may have even a slight attraction to the same sex. A coping mechanism, and since homophobia or at least the social stigma around gays is so widespread, it stands to reason that this bipohobic notion would be as well.

This article doesn't seem very neutral. -cl

To be honest, they might not be all inclusive, but I think that those examples above are perfectly acceptable. I think what the article is trying to say is that many bisexuals are accused of being swingers, not that all swingers are bisexual. Maybe it needs to be rephrased to remove that ambiguity Davepealing 18:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree with the above user, cl... most bisexual men are told they are either gay and in denial, confused or going through a phase, because according to mainstream society, "real men" cannot be attracted to other men as well as women. Also, many, if not most, gay men feel they were "born that way" and bisexual men were, too - they just do not know it, yet. There is clearly a reverse discrimination of the bi community and bisexuality in general as a lifestyle, preference or sexual orientation. Bisexuals are pretty much invisible - and lumping them into the gay community only further that invisibility. Also, having a rainbow gay flag for this article is inappropriate... a Bisexual pride flag should be used in its place, especially since this is strictly a bisexual issue involving the bisexual community. TednAZ

In re comments on rainbow flag- that's how that partiular Wikipedia box that indicates articles related to/of interest to the LGBT community comes.

But cheer up, progress is being made, it was just recently renamed to LGBT. Prior to that it was just plain old Gay for the longest. CyntWorkStuff 19:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Removed unrelated content 2 Bible 3 What the hell? 4 Too 'wordy'...?

[edit] Removed unrelated content

I removed the following content because it seems to contribute little to the substance of this entry:

(The "HNG sks 2HBB" abbreviation refers to the "horny net geek seeks two hot bi babes"
posts which have clogged groups such as soc.bi for years.)

Epolk 15:50, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bible

Why no mention of the Bible? "If a man lie with a man as he lie with a woman" etc seems to indicate that all men (or by extrapolation, all people) are at least potentially bisexual. If that's the christian god's opinion, isn't it worth noting? --MacMurrough 17:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC) Sorry, just realized where I was. Going to the Bisexual article. --MacMurrough 17:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What the hell?

"It is fair to note many anti-bisexuals are also anti-homosexual"

But the article has already established that gay people can be biphobic as well. Unless of course that you are saying the homosexuals that have a common prejudice against bisexuals are also self-hating homophobes. In short; huh? - 86.133.33.133 19:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

It says "many" not "all". Mdwh 21:16, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

It sounds like the passage is trying to say that many anti-homosexuals don't like bisexuals, rather than all anti-bisexuals dislike homosexuals. There's not much of a difference, and it took a couple or re-reads to get that, so it might need rephrasing Davepealing 18:12, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too 'wordy'...?

The article does get across some of the main points, but it is quite wordy and involved with very many simoultaneous references to heterosexual biphobia and homosexual biphobia. would anyone be opposed to me putting the two under different headings for ease of reading? or some other suggestion maybe? Davepealing 18:22, 25 April 2006 (UTC)