Talk:Bilbo Baggins

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I think we should add more of his adventures in The Hobbit and his subsequent social standing in the Shire, including him being regarded as 'odd'. Just a thought :) --Sam

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As for dates, I had thought that Month Date Year T.A. is an acceptable notation. I don't think it's quite necessary to repeat 'of the Third Age' each time. Parelle

I agree. Even if the 'T.A.' didn't make it clear that these are dates in a fictional universe, the 3000ish years should. 'Of the Third Age' is cumbersome and repetitive. Korath

Contents 1 The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins 2 Rivendell, then Mirkwood? 3 Bilbo's Weapon 4 Cleaned up and copyedited. 5 Infobar image 6 Spoilers 7 Filmatization mentioning 8 The life span 9 Not the only one 10 Bilbo being the oldest living hobbit 11 Origin of the name Bilbo

[edit] The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins

The video has be taken off the site for the time being due to it being in violation of umpteen dozen copyright laws, but apparently the owners hope to get it back up there, so I'm putting the link here http://homepage.mac.com/evanbaumgardner/iMovieTheater6.html so it can be put back on the page when the video becomes available again. There's no point linking to a dead file. 62.252.32.11 00:34, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rivendell, then Mirkwood?

I don't have my copy of the book handy, but didn't Bilbo go first to Rivendell BEFORE Mirkwood?

The following passage makes it seem te other way around. It also needs a fullstop before "Here" or a change of sentence structure.

"This led to an adventure which takes Bilbo and his companions through Mirkwood, to Rivendell, eventually reaching Erebor, Here, after the mountain has been reclaimed by Thorin Oakenshield, the Battle of Five Armies takes place."

Kyle R.

[edit] Bilbo's Weapon

Shouldn't Bilbo's weapon be Sting rather than nothing? Bilbo gained and used Sting during the events described in The Hobbit. He later passed it on to Frodo. Mikael Lind

[edit] Cleaned up and copyedited.

Made some minor edits and found no poor grammer. Avsn 20:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobar image

I don't like the image on the Infobar. Most people's vision of the character will be coloured by the film trilogy, and there MUST be a better image - see other main character pages for examples. Gtatler 16:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. We could have an illustration from an old book in the intro and perhaps the movie character in the end. Shandris 17:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoilers

Don't you think that his biography = spoilers? "Spoiler/plot revealed"-tag? Shandris 17:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filmatization mentioning

Why haven't we added something about that it will be filmed soon? link to GUF News article --Shandris 17:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Erm... did you read the article you linked to? It's a year old, and says that currently the muddy situation with the rights is an obstacle to the film actually being made. It's always possible that the lawyers will find a solution, but at the moment there's no solid plan for the film to be made. Since Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, we shouldn't say anything about such a nebulous prospect. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 17:02, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, it is OK to mention news reports about the possibility. Until it is made. And it almost certainly will be made. Carcharoth 23:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The life span

On the life span part did he die on September 29,3021. -- 70.187.27.179 14:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

The date of Bilbo's death is unknown except that it was some time after that point. --CBDunkerson 18:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not the only one

Samwise Gamgee also gave up the ring voluntarily in Return of the King OrangeDog 22:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bilbo being the oldest living hobbit

it says in the article that bilbo is the oldest, isnt gollum the oldest?

[edit] Origin of the name Bilbo

This is a query I have related to another article and maybe you, Tolkien enthusiasts, may help.

The name bilbo appears in classical English as a type of sword (see Bilbo (sword)), which is mentioned by Shakespeare's character Pistol in the Merry Wives of Windsor:

Ha, thou mountain-foreigner! Sir John and Master mine,

I combat challenge of this latten bilbo.

Word of denial in thy labras here!

Word of denial: froth and scum, thou liest! [1]

and is ethymologically linked to the Basque city of Bilbao (also known as Bilbo by locals and Bilboa in old English)

My question is: does anybody know for sure (and can document somehow) if Tolkien's name choice for this character was inspired by these cultural references (sword, Shakespeare)? I feel it's probably the case but I'd like to have more definite information, thanks. --Sugaar 22:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Maybe better forget it. I made some online search and, while I found a vague reference in Hexapedia, I also found an article that says that there seems to be a teddy bear of the Tolkien family that had that name [2]. --Sugaar 22:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

All this is interesting, and definitely worth putting in the article. Bilbo is a name that originated from Huguenot times in France, and from there went to the USA. For example, Theodore G. Bilbo. For the name history, see here. Put it in a section called "previous and later uses of the name Bilbo", or something. Carcharoth 23:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)