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Contents 1 Wikilink every band / Past line ups 2 Northern Territory BDO?? 3 Jessica Michalik merge 4 There has been no second annoucement 5 2007 BDO 6 wanting to merge Big Day Out Forum with Big Day Out 7 Audioslave 8 1999 UK Big Day Out @ Milton Keynes Bowl 9 Anonymous edits 10 BDO 2007 11 Second Announcement for BDO 2007 12 Lineup readability 13 Third announcement

[edit] Wikilink every band / Past line ups

Should we just wikilink every band, or will that make it look distracting?--ZZ 13:35, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC) Also slightly confused about "the" at the beginning of some band titles (eg. The Hoodoo Gurus). Is there a source for all these line ups & is it reliable? And are the appropriate wiki-entries correct?

Link them. -- Nickj 07:16, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I added those past line-ups and they were sourced from the Big Day Out 2004 website (Google cache), so they are accurate. The big question is whether there should be a seperate listing for each city including all the local acts, or whether just to list the bands that played two or more cities. Galaga88 13:30, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I was planning on alphabetising; then putting them in small paragraphs - All venues, Oz Only, NZ only, East Coast only, cities only (in order of city acts). My computer however is giving me a bitch of a time loading wikis at the moment "page cannot be found" message 50% of the time, Anyone else?--ZayZayEM 01:22, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Northern Territory BDO??

This is rubbish. Lees and West have confirmed this in the January edition of Rollingstone. They do not have enough interest in the event for it to travel to the Northern Territory. Also major cost issues are a major factor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.126.97.233 (talk) 10:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Jessica Michalik merge

Given the short length of the Jessica Michalik article, it sounds like a good idea to merge it with the Big Day Out article.

I disagree. While I would say that more could be added to the Jessica Michalik article, such as the public/media reaction to her death, details of the circumstances and changes resulting from it, I think that the accident was significant enough to justify a separate article. Having a separate article isn't confusing to me. Besides, just merging on the basis of an articles' current size is strange; it doesn't give an opportunity for others to expand on it. Sera 03:43, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Merge the Jessica Michalik article with the BDO article. The death was a significant moment in BDO history and should therefore be included in the main article.

I disagree - yes, the death was a significant moment in BDO history, which is why a short synopsis of it is under the history section. All that really needs to happen is for someone to expand the separate article out a little. --Dom 23:22, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

• Disagree also - keep as separate article per Dom. -- Ian ≡ talk 08:33, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

• I agree with the disagreements :P Keep it separate. There has been quite a time to discuss, so I'm going to be bold and remove the merge tags. -- Chuq 09:50, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Just a general question, should it be noted that At the Drive-In stormed off stage earlier that day due to moshing and people in the crowd just generally going too far? Just to like, note that the constant risk during the day. Something in the air maybe?

[edit] There has been no second annoucement

As of 31st October 2005, there has been no second annoucement for 2006. Could someone with sufficient privileges please remove the second annoucement. Galaga88 08:51, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

I have both removed it, and unprotected the page (I reckon it was a bunch of bored kids in a classroom somewhere) -- Chuq 10:08, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 BDO

Where's a reference for this info on the RHCPs playing in 2007? I searched the Chili's website but found no reference to the 2007 BDO in flea's blogs "fleamail?" The claim seems a bid dodgy. --LeakeyJee 12:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Chili Peppers arent playing BDO2007. Theyre doing seperate tour in April.

[edit] wanting to merge Big Day Out Forum with Big Day Out

The BDO Forum is an entirely different entity to the Big Day Out, and as a result should not be merged. More information is soon to come, and apologies must be made for the nonsense that was edited into the article by others, however the plan was to expand on the information.

BDO Forum is a community, that despite being owned by the Big Day Out festival, is used for other purposes and has many, many types of subject matter that have absolutely no relevance to the festival. People involved, achievements, events of note, they are all specific to the forum.

Also with your problems or verifiability and notability, do you want each comment referenced? The reference links at the bottom should provide most, if not all, the information needed to verify any comments made. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Henry winkler (talk • contribs) 05:42, 14 June 2006.

I realize this, however you should be made aware that these forums are not notable enough by wikipedia's standards to warrant an article of its own. Instead, if you would like in the info maintained, it has a better chance within this article instead. There are certain guidelines that we follow in terms of notability. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 05:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I see what you are saying, but I still do not see the problems you may have. I understand you moderators are allowed to display subjectivity, however, if you could give a basic suggestion as to what may be grounds for "notability" in the opinions of yourself and your colleagues. I have read through the page provided in your message, but it is not clear at all where the dispute is between you and the wikipedia entry that was created.

I don't wish to create an argument, rather to receive a simple answer or suggestion as to what would be approved. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Henry winkler (talk • contribs) 06:13, 14 June 2006.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Notability (web) instead. It should better explain how I fear that this particular forum does not meet the requirements of notability. Hence, in my opinion, it is very likely to be deleted. Also if you could, please sign your comments on talk pages with ~~~~. Thanks -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 06:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Audioslave

I think it's worth mentioning the possibility of Audioslave attending 2007 BDO.

The following article towards the end, states Tom Morello's (guitarist) intentions to tour here:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=114050&rss=yes

""Hopefully Revelations will keep our Australian fans sated until we are able to come over," he said.

"It will be soon, maybe for the Big Day Out."" A-Thousand-Lies 07:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1999 UK Big Day Out @ Milton Keynes Bowl

Should this be included here? Line-up was: Kerrang stage - Mercyful Fate, Queens of the Stone Age, Symposium, Pitchshifter, Monster Magnet and Terrorvision headling. Main stage - Creed, Sepultura, Ministry, Ben Harper, Placebo, Marilyn Manson and Metallica headling -- Lugnuts 18:16, 3 August 2006

Hmmm. This was the Big Day Out that had no association with the Australian BDO.

[edit] Anonymous edits

There have been a lot of anon edits in the last few days. Any editors working on this page may want to keep an eye on people inserting random bands into the list of 2007 bands. -- Chuq 23:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

It seems to be getting a bit out of hand, every second edit is an unsourced anon edit saying that The Veronicas or Creed are playing. Does anyone else think semi-protection is a suitable option here? -- Chuq 13:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

It's been going on for over a week now - I have semi-protected the page. -- Chuq 10:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

CONFIRMED BDO BAND

TOOL are coming to the 2007 bdo... they have confirmed a show at Melbourne's Sidney Myer Music Bowl on January 31... about the same time as some other music festival.....

That is not a confirmation. Dwayne Kirkwood 23:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: CONFIRMED BDO BAND

They are the headliners since they are being bought out to Australia by Lee's and West's touring company

That's still not confirmation though. I don't think anyone disagrees with you, everything points to them playing, but until the organisers actually confirm it, I don't think it should be posted on this site. hellboy 02:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BDO 2007

Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball. I am going to remove all of the unverified confirmations now, feel free to add them with verification (eg links). "They said in an interview" is not a confirmation unless you can cite the interview with a transcript. Dwayne Kirkwood 23:53, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Please do.... hellboy 06:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second Announcement for BDO 2007

The second announcement for Big Day Out 2007 is now up. Can someone update the page. The new additions are

AUSTRALIA: The Streets, Kasabian, Crystal Method DJs, Justice, Trivium, John Cooper Clarke, Afra & The Incredible Beatbox Band, Lily Allen, Lupe Fiasco, Diplo, John Butler Trio, Something for Kate, You Am I, Little Birdy, The Presets, Bob Evans, The Drone, The Butterfly Effect, love [tattoo] and Shapeshifter

NEW ZEALAND: The Streets, Kasabian, Crystal Method DJs, Justice, Trivium, John Cooper Clarke, Afra & The Incredible Beatbox Band, Lily Allen, Lupe Fiasco, Diplo, John Butler Trio, Little Birdy, The Presets, Blindspott, Shaky Hands, Dimmer, The Rabble, Jakob, Deceptikonz, David Kilgour, Goodnight Nurse, Sinate, PNC

This is off the offical Big Day Out forums updated at 12:40pm today, the 7th of November.

[edit] Lineup readability

I find the lineups for each year completely unreadable.

The layout for the lineups for each year are inconsistent. Reading the band names all in one line and in one paragraph is hard to read. Though a bulleted list will make the article too long, maybe have a neatly structured table, from headline act to "lesser" acts.

[edit] Third announcement

The third announcement for 2007 is expected soon. When it does come out, do you think we can clean up the 2007 list a little? The way it is layed out makes it a little confusing, with the nz only and aus only things so close to each other JayKeaton 22:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC)