Talk:Big Beautiful Woman

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Wahkeenah - Thanks for correcting me on the term "rubenesque". 67.5.129.242

One of my favorite BBW's explained that term to me years ago... and also referred to some men who were after her as "chubby chasers". Can you cite some numbers to prove it's more often used by gay men than by straight men? Wahkeenah 10:26, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

I can't cite any numbers off hand. But in my 8+ years of browsing the BBW subculture on the Internet, I rarely find the term "chubby chasers" used in reference to admirers. And I believe when it is used in this context it's just due to ignorance of the proper term. If you look up "chubby chaser" here on Wikipedia you'll find that it indicates the same thing--that it's a term mainly used to reference the subculture among gay men. But I'm not disputing that it is still sometimes used in reference to BBW admirers, correctly or not; so it still has a place in this article. 67.5.175.120

I've heard chubby chaser referred to women who like big men, but never to men who like big women. --Golbez 16:45, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Well, in my years upon this earth, I've heard and used the term "chubby chaser" in reference to anybody seeking company in a larger partner, be they hetero or homo couplings. TotalTommyTerror 17:27, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Added two links to fat-positive organizations: NAAFA and Fat!So?. --ReenieS 16:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

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I was directed to this page when I clicked on a link marked "zaftig." Somehow, I doubt that term is as polite or as PC as BBW.

what are you kidding me? i know many large women that refer to themselves as zaftig.

I dunno, seems okay to me. --Golbez 02:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

"Zaftig" is just an adjective in the Yiddish language; it does not have very much to do with this particular subculture. At least I think I'll change the redirect to female body shape.--Pharos 03:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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I am not entirely sure this term was made originally for obese women whom are generally considered attractive by almost no one. There's a definitely difference between the curvaceous and even plump women depicted in some art and the ones seen waddling about the streets of America today. My theory is the term originally meant tall, strong, and voluptuous "Amazon" types. Does anyone have information on this?

I think you're wrong. --Golbez 08:01, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Definitely wrong, especially about the "almost no one" part. Your prejudice is showing, too.

[edit] Several Errors

This page should be nominated for a clean-up, or at least wikified. Firstly, as a lecturer of the English language, I would like to assert that you are misusing some terms. For instance, Zaftig (which shouldn't really link here as there are far more appropriate articles that are closer to the word's meaning) is always used to connote positivity - like voluptuous. This page seems to take words that are relatively synonymous as having the same scope or usage in application - which misrepresents the social tenet of language. Remember, applied language can indeed prove circumstantial - and has a social dimension as well. Zaftig comes from German Yiddish; its original meaning was juicy, but it now means (1) large-breasted (2) Curvaceous. As you can see, the first definition is mainly a report of neutral connotation, whereas the second is positive (curvaceous cannot be used to connote negativity, like plumpy or obese, which is why this zaftig shouldn't link to this page). When a person (who knows how to use it) uses the word, they mean to imply a positive aspect of what they report. "The zaftig brunette with the bike" implies awe or admiration of the reported feature, mainly, her ample bosom. There is nothing PC about it, it is just an adjective. I would also like to note that sonsy, which is a scottish-English word that originally had a number of meanings, is nowadays only used to communicate exactly the same sentiment as zaftig; it is its perfect synonym.

Some pictures would help.