Talk:Bid‘ah

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This page should have been moved here, not cut-and-pasted. Sabine's Sunbird 22:22, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Maybe. Feel free to correct it.

--Striver 23:05, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] example

[1] quotes saying (Arabic: صدق الله العظيم ) as Bid'ah it's so common that many muslims believe it's part of hte religion. --The Brain 12:54, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

This article was very one sided. That was not fair for the readers. Now it is more representing of the current situation. Shafi3i 16:45, 18 September 2005 (UTC).

This article should say that bid'ah does only apply to issues of faith and not wordly issues.--Striver 06:46, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect Translation

This hadith was misinterpreted by an incorrect translation: "The one who innovates a good innovation in Islam has its reward and the reward of those who would practice with it until the Day of Judgement ­­without lessening the rewards of those who practice with it. The one who innovates the innovation of misguidance, would take the sin for it and the sin of those who practice with it until the Day of Judgement ­­without lessening the sin of those who practice with it".

The original words include the phrase, whoever "sanna sunnah hassana" - whoever REVIVES a good sunnah, they he has the reward of those who practice it until the Day of Judgement. For example, the hadith Narrated by Abu Mahdhoorah in Sahih Muslim regarding the athaan: Allaahu akbar, Allaah akbar, ash-hadu an laa ilaah ill-Allaah, ash-hadu an laa ilaah ill-Allaah, ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasool-Allaah, ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasool-Allaah. Then he should repeat, ash-hadu an laa ilaah ill-Allaah, ash-hadu an laa ilaah ill-Allaah, ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasool-Allaah, ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasool-Allaah. Hayya ‘ala al-salaah – twice; hayya ‘ala’l-falaah – twice; Allaahu akbar, Allaahu akbar, Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah.

Narrated by Muslim, 379. If you notice, the athaan only has "Allahu akbar" twice in the beginning and not four times (which has ALSO been narrated in Authentic hadiths). They are both authentic forms of athaan. So if someone were to (using wisdom of course) teach this and have others give th athaan like this they would be reviving a sunnah that has been forgotten. Remember, for every Bid'ah (innovation) that comes, it steps on a sunnah. So it's not proper to say that who ever puts a good bid'ah has the reward, linguistically this is an incorrect meaning!! The words lean to the meaning of the statements above regarding reviving a sunnah. For the complete fatwa regarding this specific example about the athaan refer to:

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=21376&dgn=4 and http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=10458&dgn=4

[edit] Edited line 10/28/06.

I changed the following line:

"Most Sunni differentiate..."

to this:

"However, there are also many Sunni Muslims who differentiate..."

I felt the change was appropriate, as the claim that "most" felt a certain way didn't have a source for that. I think it's more balanced now.