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She is 32, born in 1974, u numbnuts.

Contents 1 Discussion archives 1.1 Additions to archive 2 Cleanup tag 3 Requested move 3.1 Survey 4 Listen 5 What's Going On 6 DC touring with TLC on which album? 7 List of Beyoncé songs 8 Sales Correction 9 Dangerously in Love 2 10 B'Day Cover 11 Images 12 B'Day 13 Marriage 14 Check on It 15 Creole, photo, and genre 16 B'Day 17 Beyonce's Picture Vandalism 18 Bing Sorry 19 rv "cold war" over the booing at the awards 20 Racist comments 21 Filmography 22 Please Someone Find a Picture 23 Sales inflation and currently album 24 Vandalism actions on this article! 25 I've added 26 Pop genre 27 Best dressed, etc. 28 Jay Z 29 Upgrade U 30 Lesbian Rumor 30.1 Singles 31 Highest grossing comedy 32 What? 33 Beyone's age 34 Racist comments 35 Hotness 36 Date of Birth 37 Records and achivements 38 Accent

[edit] Discussion archives

• Talk page archive

[edit] Additions to archive

As of November 1, 2006, moved several discussions to the archive page that were six months old (though some had responses toward the end that were more recent). Lawikitejana 21:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

WHY DOES THIS ENTIRE BEYONCE PROFILE READ LIKE A P.R. PIECE FROM A RECORD COMPANY OR PR AGENCY?

TAKE A LOOK AT ANY OTHER POP CELEBRITY OF BEYONCE'S LEVEL (like Brooke Hogan, Paris Hilton, Jessica Simpson, Brandy, or Monica)- LOOK AT OTHER PAGES AND THERE'S PLENTY THERE ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE THAT IS LESS THAN "PERFECT" (with no little cute warning signs about posting potentially libelous items!).

THIS IS PATHETIC TO THINK THAT WIKI IS BEING USED AND ABUSED AS JUST ANOTHER PR TOOL FOR ANOTHER POP CELEB-DIVA. IF WIKI ALLOWS PEOPLE TO POST CONTROVERSIAL, DEBATED, AND SCANDALOUS ITEMS ABOUT OTHERS (ESPECIALLY DEAD STARS WHO CANNOT DEFEND THEMSELVES) - WHY DOES THIS POP CELEBRITY LIKE BEYONCE GET A FREE PASS?

I GUESS BECAUSE HER LABEL OR PR AGENCY MADE A FEW DONATIONS TO WIKI TO SEE IT DONE RIGHT! HMMM.

[edit] Cleanup tag

1. Song titles should be in double quotation marks, not italics. - Done
2. Solitary year, month and month-year links should not be inserted unless there is an extremely good reason. - Done
3. Various capitalisation errors in song and album titles, e.g. "Check On It" instead of the correct "Check on It". - Done
4. Various formatting errors: some words are bolded for no reason, others are not italicised when they should be. - Done
5. The "Records" section is a collection of loosely associated facts that seem to serve no other purpose than to remind the reader of Knowles' popularity over and over. It also mentions House of Dereon, which is mentioned again further down the article. - Done

In summary, the article definitely needs a copyedit. For more information, consult Wikipedia's manual of style. Extraordinary Machine 20:24, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I went through and made these changes. If there's anything more, let me know. JackO'Lantern 21:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Extraordinary Machine 17:06, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Listen

Is Listen number 2 on the Poland chart because it says that in her singles information can someone find out so that it can be released on the Listen (song) page?

[edit] What's Going On

The entire article has been vandalized, can someone please fix it. (Tigermichal 00:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC))

Some female must of done that..LOL silly women can't take seeing somebody like Beyonce..she's beautiful to all men...all races. f the haters m~sierra

[edit] DC touring with TLC on which album?

Destiny's Child did not tour with TLC before their debut album was released. Because their debut album came out in 1998 Fanmail didn't come out til 1999 (the tour didn't happen til later in 99) and they didn't tour CrazySexyCool. Destiny's Child toured with TLC right after The Writing's on the Wall was released. Please fix this.

[edit] List of Beyoncé songs

Is this new article necessary? It is just repeating all the information that is already present in Beyoncé Knowles discography. I think it should just be redirected to her discography article. --Musicpvm 05:02, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I think so too. -- getcrunkjuice 16:28, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I am a big Beyoncé fan and I can't add information because someone who thinks he or she is better deletes it. Mariah Carey has articles like this. If you want to redirected it then don't. Add the information to the discography.

Huh? Anyways, I think List of songs by Mariah Carey should be redirected to her discography article as well. I will start a discussion there. And about adding the information to Beyonce's discography, all the info in List of Beyoncé songs is already present in Beyoncé Knowles discography. --Musicpvm 22:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I really want Beyonce's b-sides and unreleased songs to have an article. Please change the name of the article to "List of unreleased Beyoncé songs". Charmed36 19 June 2006

If there are any unreleased songs or b-sides that aren't already present at Beyoncé Knowles discography, just add them to that article. A second article is unncessary. Also, I did not "delete" the article. You can still access older versions if you click on "history" This is the last version before I redirected it. Several of the b-sides listed already appear on the "Soundtracks" section of her discography article. Add those that do not, and if necessary create an "Unreleased songs" section in her discography article, but the list is not long enough to deserve its own article. --Musicpvm 23:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sales Correction

Dangerously In Love did NOT sell 11 Million. That recent press release featured an INFLATED amount. Realistically, the album sold about 8.5 Million internationally. In 2004, at the end of the DIL era, the album had sold about 8 Million.

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Well I found a source from the Dangerously in Love page: [2]. So eleven million is correct. — getcrunk ? 21:16, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Once again, 11 Million is an inflated number. That article is the press release but with minor revision. Record labels inflate sales in press releases and throughout the media because of the current state of the industry.

DIL sold 4.4 Million in the U.S. DIL did not perform as well as it did the states. However, the album did well in major markets such as the U.K., Germany, and Australia. 11 Million just isn't a realistic amount. I'm going to go with the more probable amount of 8.5 Million.

See Wikipedia:No original research. You need to find up-to-date sources to back up your claim. — getcrunk what?! 13:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

According to Beyonceonline Beyonce debut album sold just over 6 mill. copies WW.!!!

Actually... It sold 6 million in 2003... that is what it says on the timeline. I have read other sites stating sales of 14 million +, but I believe 11 million is much more realistic (think about it, it spawned one of the biggest hits "Crazy In Love")

[edit] Dangerously in Love 2

I believe that Dangerously in Love 2's article does not need to be merged. It has enough information and more can be added. You take a look. Dangerously in Love 2 7:36 5 July 2006 Charmed36

[edit] B'Day Cover

Can anyone confirm this is B'Day album cover? [3]

14 July 2006 Charmed36

[edit] Images

YOU GUYS SHOULD PUT HER PICS FROM THE MAGAZINE "GIANT". THEY HAD A PHOTO SHOOT AND THEY SHOWED THEM IN INTOUCH THIS WEEK!!!!! tHERE ARE BETTER PICS THAN THESE208.228.103.48 22:42, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Reply at User talk:208.228.103.48#Beyonce. — getcrunk what?! 23:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] B'Day

Is B'Day a double cd?someone put it on the "Beyonce" page and I have seen the tracklisting on quite a few websites(not itunes, that's different) and it says only 1 cd, can someone tell me, cause then everybody will be like"A double CD, she must of copied Christina?"

Thanks I am a beyonce' fan think that she is great and has come a long way so that is why I definitely have to have that B-day album that is going sell big time I think with 'Deja vu'and Ring the Alarm.

B'Day is not a double disc CD. It will have a Wal-Mart DVD package with video etc. Tigermichal 02:44, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marriage

According to this official Sony Netherlands website, she married Jay-Z in 2003. Under the headline "The B van Bootylicious" it says: "In 2003 stopte Beyoncé tijdelijk met Destiny’s Child, liet haar achternaam vallen, trouwde met haar vriend Jay-Z en bracht de swingende en pikante single Crazy In Love uit."

Translation: "In 2003, Beyoncé [..], married boyfriend Jay-Z en released the [..]"

– (empoor) 11:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Check on It

I think that Check on It should have pop in the genre. The song is a kind of bubblegum. Beyoncé is a pop singer with a urban lean like Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. Charmed36 21:47 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. "Check on It" is definitely pop. It's no surprise it performed better on the Billboard Pop 100 than the R&B 100 chart. --musicpvm 16:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Creole, photo, and genre

Is Creole really a single? I uploaded a better promotional photo than the over sexy one and Beyoncé is R&B and pop singer not soul. Someone is very wrong. Naughty Girl underperformed on the R&B/Hip-Hop charts. Isn't that kind of poppy? Also is Irreplaceable really the third single? It's my favorite. Charmed36 20:13 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Beyonce is a POP and R&B artist, not soul. Funk Junkie (talk • contribs), who seems to have no understanding of genres, has been continually changing them to incorrect ones. . --musicpvm 20:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] B'Day

Please stop User Noboyo from changing the release date of the B'Day. He removes the U.S. and UK release as if it was only release in Germany. Charmed36 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Please inform yourself on Wiki policies. In album articles, the first release date should always be given. Mjbjosh 19:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beyonce's Picture Vandalism

Has anyone else noticed that someone has tampered with the photos of Beyonce in this article?! They've added a monobrow and a weird mouth to most of them. I think that is horrible! Can anyone change them back to the original versions? (I don't know if its possible though because I'm new to Wikipedia)

[edit] Bing Sorry

Bing sorry for what has ben did, i would ike to sorry to people, i love you long time people.

Bing has undone what has ben done and very sorry, eh, i love you long time fr what has ben did.

[edit] rv "cold war" over the booing at the awards

There appears to be a rv "cold war" over this passage: "however, was booed by crowds when she did not turn up to accept any of the honours on the night, along with her partner and fellow award winner Jay-Z." A citation might help, but both parties, please stop reverting and discuss first. -- JHunterJ 12:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I find that this is an important moment that shows the backlash that she experiences lately. Mr. Matthew Knowles even issued a statement regarding the booes at MOBO's not so long ago. Mjbjosh 13:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Cite for M. Knowles' statement? (I'm still neutral about the encyclopedic importance of the "backlash experience".) -- JHunterJ 14:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Well I'll have to find those articles again where he addresses it. I'll give URL's later even though I could live without the mention of booing, too. -- Mjbjosh 19:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Racist comments

This portion was hopelessly POV, and I removed it:

"Since the comments have been grossly misinterpreted by the public as racist, the record sales of her new album, 'B'day' have fallen by 70 percent in the United States."

Thanks. Lawikitejana 21:35, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filmography

Why does the following text appear above "Filmography"?

|align="center" rowspan="1"|2006 |align="left"|"Ring The Alarm" |align="center"| |align="center"| |align="center"| |align="center"| |align="center"| |align="center"| |}

Naerhu 22:55, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please Someone Find a Picture

I want to know why there isn't a picture that is suitable to post for Beyonce's page? Can someone find one that's appropriate, since every image seems to be illegal supposedly. And I also suspect that that little image warning thing is suspect. Tigermichal 04:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sales inflation and currently album

The album Dangerously in love did not managed more weeks than The Writtings on the wall, who is an record to an R&B album (spend about 112 weeks on billboard 200)
its worldwide sales according to nielse soundscan and media traffic is whereabout 8million of copies
its certification was out of range (oficillay had an sales of 3,7 but due to shipments got the last platinum certification), it was pointing to 5 times platinum
B'day did not manage to get certification from RIAA yet

and this article should have a clean up Eduemoni 16:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

• and I forgot, if you use RIAA certification, you should not use the US Sales tag in the table

Eduemoni 16:48, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Others have commented that "cleanup" tags were posted without explanation. It would probably help the cause if you identified the specific aspects and/or sections that you think need work. Lawikitejana 21:35, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism actions on this article!

I've added this article to my watchlist
and I'll be reverting any vandalism done into it
The WW sales was 16million, this is impossible, Columbia did not made many copies as well,
I've already added the note into sales, if someone want to see, go into RIAA, Nielsen SoundScan and MediaTraffic sites, there are related links
any vandalism action in this article will be not tolerated and the responsible for such action will be punished --Eduemoni 22:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

• Okay. The official numbers are NO LESS than 11 million. Access Hollywood - earlier this year stated that AT LEAST 11 million were sold. So these reports of 8 million are OUTDATED. Think about it - if it sold 6 million WW in 2003 alone - BEFORE "Me Myself And I" and "Naughty Girl", 11 million is DEFINATELY an acceptable number concerning the worldwide success of "Crazy In Love" and "Naughty Girl"
  link: http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah423.shtml
  ALSO: 16 million does seem a bit out there - but earlier reports of 14 million were reported and that also sounds possible.
  --Ip-Based User 22:25, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
  

No, No, No! These values are sales inflation, go to official music world wide scan like, united world charts, media traffic, soundScan, EPBI and you'll see how much the album have sold, 16 million it is impossible, I'll say once again columbia did not manage to produce to many copies, there is no demand, the album sold about 8 million, go to beyoncé official site and there is showing how much the album sold

LOL 16 million, neither DC even got that (DC is ww more popular than any of its member), what about Beyoncé, she isnt exceptional Eduemoni 02:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Eduemoni - you are reporting the wrong person for the 16 million vandalism - someone else was the one who originally posted the number -- not who you think it is (they e-mailed me and asked me to explain this to you because they say you keep warning them) Anyway - sales are NOT 16 million as I have only heard that cited on www.BeyonceWorld.net. Sales around 9-12 million seem a bit more accurate. Kirby2725 15:49, 16 October 2006

Ok - Beyonce's timeline lists that as of 2006 (BEFORE the release of B'day) she had a worldwide career sales of over 50 million units. As it has been proven that Destiny's Child (as a group without solo sales) has sold 39 million units worldwide.
50 Million Career Sales
-39 with Destiny's Child
11 Million Solo sales
Which means that as of 2006 Dangerously in Love HAD in fact sold 11 million units. Kirby2725 18:13, 16 October 2006

[edit] I've added

the clean up tag this article is so messed up we need order --Eduemoni 03:20, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

DAMN, is it so hard to go to RIAA site?
and call for searchable database???
there is write down 4 times platinum
--Eduemoni 23:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Well - the RIAA aren't exactly the most frequent updaters of their site... Their last certifications occured in like February. --Kirby2725 5:55, 20 October 2006

Again, it would help if those calling for cleanup would specify what aspects need cleanup. Clearly, those posting the tag feel the need is self-evident, but the fact that cleanup has not occurred suggests it's not as obvious as some may think. Lawikitejana 21:35, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pop genre

I strongy believe Beyonce is a R&B AND pop artist. Her music has strong pop influences; it is very incorrect to label her as a pure R&B artist. All internet sources label her as a pop artist, and she is probably one of the most prominent figures in pop music today. Most users seem to agree with this, but Funk Junkie (talk • contribs) disagrees. I don't want edit wars but the pop genre is constantly being removed from this article, Check on It, Naughty Girl (Beyoncé song), and Irreplaceable. Can we please resolve this issue? --musicpvm 16:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't feel strongly about it either way, but let me just say that Junkie's obsession with dumping/swiping genres is very annoying. He's doing it repeatedly and obsessively, and minus edits summaries. In particular, he seems to think Justin Timberlake isn't an R&B artist, even tho most of his solo singles chart on U.S. R&B and his album debuted at #1 on U.S. R&B. Junkie even made at least one sockpuppet for removing R&B genres from Timberlake's singles articles. Crumbsucker 20:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I have noticed this as well. The user seems to have personal views on what genre(s) certain artists fit into and while that is fine, these views are not in line with popular belief, and are in turn POV. The R&B genre should definitely be included in the Justin Timberlake article. The user has been asked many times to stop removing genres, since February 2006 when he was editing with 200.138.194.254 (talk • contribs). --musicpvm 21:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't see anything pop on Beyoncé's music. Just because she has some danceable songs? As I've already said before, she has more soul songs than pop ones (although she's not as soulful as Alicia Keys, for example). I mean, her Dangerously In Love samples many soul songs. If you considered all genres Beyoncé has recorded on, you'd also have to include funk ("Work It Out," "Creole," and even "Crazy In Love" and "Check On It" have some funk influences). So I'd say Beyoncé's a pure R&B musician. Her music sounds too much like Amerie's one, which is also an R&B-only artist. If you compare Beyoncé's music with Destiny's Child's one, you'll see notable differences – Destiny's Child has this hip-hop-sounding R&B/pop style. And if you compare it with actual pop-R&B singers' one, you'll also see differences. As for Justin Timberlake, I did NOT create that sockpuppet. Just because he/she has the same opinion as mine? Anyway, I don't want edit wars, I just want to be in peace with everyone. Funk Junkie 23:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Funk Junkie, Beyonce is a PURE R&B artist. Her songs maybe dancey but they are R&B. And Justin Timberlake does not make R&B music. He is a Pop singer with R&B influences, down to Timbaland —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Candy Baby 1234 (talk • contribs).

And you also think the The Pussycat Dolls are pure R&B which is just laughable. --musicpvm 18:28, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

This I agree with you, musicpvm. The Pussycat Dolls' main genre is pop. Funk Junkie 19:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, most African singers are Rythm and Blue singers.

[edit] Best dressed, etc.

I don't want to seem frivolous or unencyclopedic, but ... to have an article of this length and detail and not mention that Knowles has been publically noted as a "best-dressed" celebrity seems a little funny, especially in light of the notable detail that her mother designs most of her clothes, very unusual among the rich and famous. I didn't put it in myself because I didn't see an appropriate place to note it without watering down the article, and because I don't have the source in front of me. The article in People (2006, I believe) had a stunning picture of a purple iris dress; if there is a GFDL picture of the singer wearing the same dress, it would be a good addition. Again, not trying to weigh down the article with trivialities or overshadow her entertainment career with something superficial; it simply seems worth noting at some point in the article. Lawikitejana 21:35, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

• Supposedly she had a "wardrobe malfunction" recently. That should win her a point or two. Wahkeenah 01:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jay Z

They broke up right? and when? --Pumpkin Pie 00:56, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

They didn't break up. -- Kelsie.&adores;.You

[edit] Upgrade U

Don't get me wrong - I absolutely love the song and it is great that it has been so successful, but I believe that it shouldn't be placed into her "Singles" category until it has officially been released as a single. --Kirby2725 00:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lesbian Rumor

People are stating that she is "rumored" to have an affair. It's not even rumored nor true. The rumor is that she isn't in a movie with Eva Longoria. That's it.

[edit] Singles

I don't think its necessary to give single information for non-mainstream official releases. 'Upgrade U' has not been yet officially confirmed to be released. 'Dangerously In Love 2' was released only to radio with no music video - and was not a mainstream released single. Her mainstream releases were 'Work It Out', '03 Bonnie & Clyde", "Crazy In Love", "Baby Boy", "Me, Myself and I", "Check On It", "Deja Vu", "Ring The Alarm", "Irreplaceable" and soon to be "Listen" (assuming they release it to the mainstream audience, which they may not due to the current success of "Irreplaceable")

Kirby2725 23:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Highest grossing comedy

Cut from article:

The film is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the Highest-Grossing Box Office Film Comedy.

Anyone got a source for the assertion than Goldmember was the top grossing comedy? --Uncle Ed 18:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What?

"Beyonce is the first woman and second woman to ever win the ASCAP Pop Songwriter of the Year Award in 2001" What is that supposed to say?

It's suppose to say " Beyonce is the first black woman and second woman to ever win..."TJ 17:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beyone's age

According to MediaTakeOut.com, they have received a fax from the Texas Department of Health that lists Beyone's year of birth at 1974, not 1981, making her seven years older and presently 32 years old, not the 25 she claims. --Zimbabweed 14:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Number 1 her birth records are private and should not be put into the public without her consent. Number 2 THAT'S HER DAMN BUSINESS. (Personally if it's true I think it would be great.)It would explain why she's dating a 35 year old Jay Z.(NitaReads 21:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC))

It seems like another internet hoax to me. Honestly, there has been videography of Beyoncé and Kelly Rowland when they were children. Kelly's birth year is noted as February 11, 1981, putting her birth seven months prior than Beyoncé's September 4, 1981 birth. If she was really 32, when Kelly was 8, Beyoncé would have been 15. Destiny's Child's released home videos clearly dispute these false allegations of her age, Beyoncé, Kelly, LaTavia, and LeToya are clearly close to one another in age. TJ 21:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

As long as the reports regarding the dispute over her age is in the public arena, particularly attached to apaprently official Texas documents (which, frankly, are public records and therefore available for viewing or by order), it should be included in the article, even with a caveat.204.126.251.245 16:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

That image is definitely bogus. I used to have a subscription to ancestry.com (where that image is from) through my library and I looked up Beyonce and it said 1981, even on the original source image. If someone has a valid subscription they should post the real image. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elle234 (talk • contribs) 22:42, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Racist comments

Please remove the following line from the first paragraph of the Early Life section "Beyonce pretends to be white, with blond hair weaves and skin lightening."

This is rude and false.

nubiantemptres43 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.109.149.220 (talk) 15:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Hotness

She is rather hot.Wikipediarules2221 03:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Date of Birth

I was listening to a gossip feed and it said Beyonce wasn't really born in '81, but in '74. Is there a citation for either of those dates? What do you do about celebs lying about their birthdays? --Htmlism 00:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Records and achivements

whoever is putting Two number-one singles as a quartet ("Bills, Bills, Bills" and "Say My Name"), two as a trio ("Independent Woman Part I" and "Bootylicious"), four as a duo ("Crazy in Love", "Baby Boy", and "Check on It"), and now one as a solo act ("Irreplaceable"). stop it it is not something that is relevant to the article

[edit] Accent

Does the accent on the E imply that her name is pronounced be-yon-CE —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.188.172.165 (talk) 01:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC).