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[edit] WP:BAG Alert

unapproved bots:

[edit] user:TARBOT

Hi,

Sorry, I thought that a feed back, about the bot, should come from a third party. What should I report? Please advice. --Tarawneh

[edit] re: Nanking Massacre

Got a message from you to "refrain from adding nonsense". Not sure why. I simply clarified the sentence and removed the loaded term "extremist" (which is poor grammar anyway). Here is the before & after: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nanking_Massacre&diff=80153317&oldid=80153191 {{subst:unsigned:67.188.34.219}}

[edit] RfA nomination

Eagle_101 and Húsönd would like to nominate you to be an administrator. Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Eagle_101 to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Betacommand. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.

—— Eagle (ask me for help) 01:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I've added a question for you on your rfa, Betacommand. Feel free to answer there or on my talk page. Picaroon9288 03:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof

Hi there. Just a quick query RE: VandalProof. I've been on the Awaiting Approval list for quite a while now with no response. This tool would assist me greatly with my anti-vandalism work. Pursey 02:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VP: Unable to log in

Hi Betacommand. Thanks for placing my username on the list of VP approved users, however, I am not able to log in. The VP welcome page suggested contacting the admin that placed my username on the approved list to ensure that it was also added to the access list. Thanks a lot! Leuko 03:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I was using 1.2.2 - 1.3 seems to work. Thanks! Leuko 03:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I am still unable to log in as well. My previous request for assistance was already archived but I'd like to be able to use the program. Dekimasu 03:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Deary me

Isn't it a shame how people running bots have it rougher than everyone else? Noticed it looking at your RfA, some people just don't like automatic editors I think.--Andeh 09:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit]  :P

Check out the time on this post smartiepants Glen 14:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Glen's Anti-Vandalism Barnstar!
Glen is thrilled to award Betacommand with this small token of appreciation and acknowledgement for exceptional performance in the art of troll extermination, cruft elimination and for ensuring Wikipedia is safe for public consumption... You are a legend, please keep up the great work! Glen 15:47, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I have not been able to get on

whenever I log onto VandalProof 1.2.2 it gives me this error

 Your log-in request failed. 
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 You might have entered an incorrect username. Currently, your username is set to Maniwar. You can   
 change this at anytime from "Set Username" under the File menu.

 You might not be correctly logged into Wikipedia with that username. Try logging into Wikipedia  
 within the current browser. 
 You might not be on the list of authorized users. Please post a request for permission to use  
 VandalProof on the VandalProof talk page. If you have received a message stating that you have  
 already been added to the list, please contact the user who posted that message.

however immediately below that it gives me this:

 Welcome to VandalProof, Maniwar! If you have any questions about using this tool, please ask them  
 on the appropriate VandalProof forum. Unfortunately, help is very incomplete right now, and more  
 information is likely available on the VandalProof main page. If you would like to work on  
 expanding the help file, your contributions would certainly be appreciated!

yet I can't do anything. Everything is greyed out and it doesn't work. Am I doing something wrong or not doing something? But then, if I use version 1.2, it logs me in and then tells me:

 You may no longer use this version. Please download the newest verion of VandalProof.

Please help!!!! --Maniwar (talk) 13:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Left another question at my talk page. Thanks --Maniwar (talk) 13:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help and ideas needed

Hi Beta,

Sorry you've been spammed, but I hope you'll find for a good reason. I've know you are active around the recent changes arena (normally having beaten me to a revert), and I'm currently looking for help with a new project. I would like to harmonise all the warnings and templates we issue, with goal to creating a standard look, format and content to the messages. Even if you use VP, VS or any of the other vandal tools out there, I still feel this is worthwhile. Please visit here for further information, and leave me a message if you're interested, or tell me to get lost ;) if you haven't the time. Regards Khukri (talk . contribs) 13:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

I am pleased to let you know that, consensus reached, you are now an Administrator. You should find the following forums useful:

Congratulations on your promotion and the best of luck with your new charge! Redux 02:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! I've seen your bot around and I was very suprised to see that you were not an admin already. - Mike | Talk 02:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

Time to vandalsweep!
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Time to vandalsweep!

Congratulations on the mop and bucket! :-) Best regards.--Húsönd 02:13, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 69.85.184.134 (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log)

Why did you block 69.85.184.134? That IP was tagging articles direly in need of cleanup with cleanup tags. That's productive work. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

the reason that I blocked it was it was adding {{toomuchtrivia}} to pages that had no trivia sections, and appeared to be a bot which was doing it because of the speed. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 02:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Any examples? I just see a full screen of reverted useful cleanup tags, and a couple edits a minute (which I personally do all the time without any scripting at all just by using tabs; look at my delete logs sometime). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:53, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
see [1] the page as one item of trivia, [2] only has two Items listed, Again only one [3] [4] are a few. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 03:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I made a few mistakes when I was first an administrator, but I think that what you did was a mistake. There's nothing wrong with tagging trivia sections saying they should be integrated into the article. —Mets501 (talk) 03:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Despite the fact that it's named "toomuchtrivia", any article with a trivia section should be tagged with TMT. Trivia sections, however long, need to be combined into more-relevant parts of the article. It was definitely a mistake to massrevert all of this IP's contribs and block. Could you please unblock and help me replace these cleanup tags? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Not to pile-on, but I think that blocking was way too premature for this user: he/she was not warned at all, and was not given any explanation in the block summary or on the user talk page as to the reason for blocking, besides that they were vandalizing. —Mets501 (talk) 03:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree that that was a little hasty of me. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 03:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vp2

Thanks for the help setting up vp2! Much appreciated! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by chrislk02 (talk • contribs).05:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot work on assessment

Hi! Could you please help us at medicine project too? I'd like to ask your bot to tag articles in the following list with {{WPMED|class=Unassessed}}. Thank you in advance! The list:

  • Category:Medicine + these subcats:
  • Category:Human diseases (with all subcats)
  • Category:Medical signs (with all subcats)
  • Category:Symptoms (with all subcats)
  • Category:Medical terms (with all subcats)
  • Category:Medicine stubs (with all subcats)

That's all for the start. Good work! :) NCurse work 06:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] wolfies

How can it be so I gave both good and bad points equally. Plus neutral info too.. Please explain sir.An-Mat.br 16:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

ok thanks. I will take a look at it au revoir An-Mat.br 16:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for approving me for VP. This means alot. Here, have a cookie.

But could I please also have some help setting up?--AAA! 01:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind. I think I've got the hang of it. How am I going? --AAA! 02:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with VP

I don't know if this is a problem, but a message box pops up saying "runtime '91 error occured: Object variable or with block variable not set", then the program closes. --AAA! (talk • contribs) 06:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VP approval blanking

Any idea why VP is blanking the user list at User talk:AmiDaniel/VandalProof? Mine has one it twice now due to the revert. Yours has done it once.--Andeh 13:25, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AirportProject

The top-level cat is Category:Airports by country

Simply prepend {{AirportProject}} to the talk page if it doesn't already have it. That's all there is to it. :P

US airports are done for sure, so you might as well skip them to save time. Same for Canadian airports. thadius856talk 18:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

P.S. - Template should not be subst'd. Check to make sure there's not already a subst'd template already there, too. thadius856talk 18:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VP Approval

I noticed that you approved my request to use VandalProof, but when I open the program it says my username is not authorized. The username is correct on the page it brings up but it still will not let me use it. Can you help me with this? Thanks. --Kf4bdy talk contribs 19:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Brahma Kumaris article

The NPOV was deleted. Why? Thank you. avyakt7 20:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Unblock

I noticed you denied the unblock request on User talk:193.63.62.188. I noticed you didn't sign it, which may cause some sort of response from the IP that we don't want (it could range from anger to misunderstanding etc.) I wouldn't have bothered with this message, but I felt that considering this is a formal procedure, remedying this lack of signature with {{unsigned}} might not have been best. Rather, I added the stock-standard signature (see here). I am posting this merely for transparency (and so you and others don't think someone is impersonating you!). Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 11:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] BoardFusion Article Deletion

Hi, could you let me know why the BoardFusion article was deleted? --BP 12:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: The reason that it was deleted as per CSD G11 and WP:WEB
I don't see how it met G11 'Blatant Advertising' - I have no affiliation with BoardFusion at all, and I can't remember using any marketing-like langauge. I created the article because it is a significant piece of open-source ColdFusion software, and also a discussion forum - both areas within which I am active on Wikipedia. It wasn't completely encylopaedic because I didn't have time to write a full article, so I created the stub as a reminder to turn it into a more complete article today. If WP:WEB applies to BoardFusion then it would also apply to all except a small handful of the forums at Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software, none of which have been speedily deleted? --BP 15:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LostBot trial

Hi Betacommand, I have posted the trial results of my bot here. Can you please go through and give me your feedback. Thanks -- Lost(talk) 14:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A belated congratulations :)

On becoming an admin Martinp23 15:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot Questions

Hey there newbie admin =). I got a few questions regarding CFD recategorization and such. Are there any bots out there that do the requested moves, recats, etc. as a result of CFD, or is it all done manually? Second, can you take a look at [5] and tell me if you could possibly help me out (maybe with your bot, i know nothing about this stuff) with the recategorization. It's quite tedious to do it manually. Thanks, hope to hear from you soon. And...if you do have any admin-related questions, feel free to stop by and ask. =) Nishkid64 02:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh I never formally congratulated you. Well...erm...Congratulations on getting the mop!! Nishkid64 03:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[6]

Hopefully it is understandable and I did it properly. Nishkid64 03:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The IP was blocked?

I have no relation with the unblock request except I was monitoring a report I made at AIV and noticed the diff in recent history. But the most recent block for the IP says expiry 48 hours nearly a month ago. It does say sockpuppet of an indef banned user, but this IP has edited since Oct 5, with some good faith edits.

Am I misunderstanding something? Gotyear 17:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh. I was presuming it was a range block, since the IP said "I'm trying to edit Cell membrane and it says I have a 24 hour block on 152.163.100.202", and there is a 24 hr block on that similar IP address from an hour ago.

I'm curious how they were able to edit at AIV though. Eh, I'm completely confused now. Gotyear 18:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Eyepatch wearers

You recently deleted Category:Eyepatch wearers. I cannot find any item in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion that authorizes your action. Please explain your action. Thank you. --M@rēino 20:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks for your reply. I guess that's what I get for leaving a category unattended for so long; I created it for real people who wear eyepatches for medical reasons, and I see that it got deleted because it was overrun with fictional characters who wear it for effect. Oh, well. --M@rēino 01:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Califone page

Help me to understand why you keep removing the Califone MySpace page. How is it unverifiable? I have already said that I can verify it. Loperco 15:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Also- if you look at the Califone official site, http://pastrysharp.com, you will see that the MySpace page is linked there. That should be enough to verify it for you.Loperco 15:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

You said:

I will tell you why I removed it: see WP:EL Links to social networking sites should be avoided un less they are in direct relation to the site this includes www.myspace.com on the MySpace page. but does not include a person's profile and thus should be removed. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 15:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

But I don't see anything about social networking in WP:EL which I did look at before posting the question on your talk page.
You also said that if the MySpace page is linked on their official site,

then that is all the more reason to remove it. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 15:36, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Why would this be "all the more reason?" Even though it is useful to fans of Califone, because it is verifiable, it is irrelevant?Loperco 15:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Same with they MySpace link you removed using AWB from Derren Litten. It is linked to as his on his official web site. I will add the link back. — Gary Kirk // talk! 16:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
NOTE: WP:EL was messed up earlier today, in a attempt of a cleanup. It has been reverted Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 16:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Loperco 16:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Related to the above on Kathryn Holloway the subjects own myspace page was deleted. This fits WP:EL What should be included - Articles about any organization, person, web site, or other entity should link to the official site if there is one. --Salix alba (talk) 18:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[7] Links to blogs, social networking sites (such as MySpace), or discussion forums unless mandated by the article itself Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 18:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Now there is a big difference between the subject's myspace site, and a myspace site by someone else which mentions the subject. Yes the latter are normally a good case for deletion. But the subject's own site is a different matter. The subject's own site (be it a normal webpage/blog/myspace) is generally the first thing I look for when reading a bio. It can give me the information straight from the horses mouth, it allows me to makeup my own mind about the person, rather than rely on third party sources. In this case the myspace page , tells me far more info about the person than the wikipedia entry, details of companies she founded, and allows me to see read her "Ten Key Values", plus a whole lot more. --Salix alba (talk) 19:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
See further discussion at Wikipedia talk:External links#Official MySpace pages. Thanks. --Quiddity 22:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof login errors

Hi Betacommand. Not sure if you're watching the VP1 talk/bug pages. Myself and a few other loyal VP users have been unable to access any functionality of VP due to some sort of login error. Do you have any idea what may have happened? We all seemed to lose connectivity at about the same time(yesterday afternoon) Is there a chance this is being looked into(and we just haven't noticed any discussions on it)? Is the old version being supported and, if it isn't, is it possible to be aloud access to VP2 so that I/we can "fight our good fight"? Thanks, cheers and take care! Anger22 23:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate the quick reply. I don't use IRC. Is it possible to communicate with me via my Wikipedia email? I am quite keen to give it a go. Anger22 23:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I have mircs but am unable to connect to the channel(proxy issues?)(shucks!) Do you have any idea what is going wrong with VP1? Anger22 00:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

1.2.2...last version available(as far as I knew) Just noticed yet another user has posted on the bug page that they are unable to login. I think we're up to 5 now with the same problem. Anger22 01:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Excellent!! I did not see anything about that on the main page. Everythig there read as sort-of...pending. Thanks for all your help! Anger22 01:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] heroes

thanks for the semi-protect on Heroes hopefully it will put an end to the revert wars -- Argash | talk | contribs | Status: 14:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] xou dont get it do you?

get glasses or whatever and stop ruining articles just because you dont understand shit. idiot. --80.134 14:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] fuck you faggot

fuck you faggot --80.134.151.54 14:57, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Sorry I did wait a coupla mins. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 15:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for the Lock on Biblical literalism

I know I've been arguing pretty strongly. I've reverted multiple blanks and added citations everytime one was asked for but it seemed no matter how much I attempted to fix the supposed problems that arose it just got uglier and uglier. Early on I tried putting the controversy tag on the discussion page but that didn't do a darn thing. Next time what's the best way to handle this kind of situation to prevent it before it happens? Peace --Home Computer∴Peace 15:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Eagles (UK band)

Hi, I strongly disagree with your closing of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Eagles (UK band). Speedy keep, why?? Several users held different views. Punkmorten 17:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, the discussion did not meet any of the demands listed at Wikipedia:Speedy keep. We can't just close AFDs simply because we disagree with the nomination, when other uses are calling delete, merge etc. I took the liberty to reopen the discussion.. Punkmorten 19:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] La Coka Nostra

What's going on? Is this a hoax or something? It looks legit to me. Friday (talk) 19:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

It was deleted by another Admin under CSD A7 and there have been several repost Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 19:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
There's no way this was an a7. I was in the process of moving one of the reposts, but I've restored for now. Unless this is a hoax, there's no way I can see that it's a valid speedy. And it doesn't look like a hoax to me, at first glance. If we really wanna delete this I think it deserves a fair shot at Afd, unless there's some obvious reason for deletion that I'm not seeing. Friday (talk) 19:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
This user User:Who-am-i is another sock puppet of a banned user. Has been repeatedly done personal attacks. as been blocked for recreating reposted material and has had three socks allready blocked due to harmful editing practices. see also [8] Luna Santin's origional deletion and message to the user. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 19:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
This may be a good reason to block an editor, but I don't see how it's a good reason to delete the page. But, I'll make that case on the talk page. Thanks for the info. Friday (talk) 19:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
PS they have reposted for about the 6th time the newest La Coka Nostra (group) Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 19:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Well there's obviously lots to this story that I don't know about, but I really cannot fault an editor for objecting to such an obviously wrong deletion. (This does not, of course, excuse whatever bad behavior this editor has engaged in.) I turned this other thing into a redir and put a note on the talk page explaining my reasoning. Friday (talk) 19:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Jeff Burrows

Hello at 17:54, 26 October 2006 you removed the myspace link Jeff Burrows ([9]) with a justification that it is unverifiable. However if you bothered to read his myspace page at [10] you would see the following Auto-biography: Before going on a pointless crusade against myspace do your research properly!

Better yet contact him on myspace, prove it to yourself, yes that is Jeff Burrows, that is his myspace page, and it's currently his official website.

If you still don't believe me, let me know, I'll email personally, he's a friend of mine.

--AusBruce 05:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection of Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom

Hi, I have a problem with your recent protection of Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. Not only did you not mention on the talkpage why you were protecting the article so editors attention can be made aware of it, you also forgot to mention this on WP:PP as is required by policy. Cheers Brian | (Talk)

re normaly VoAbot II handles the listing and I thought my protection reason was clearly stated on the page history. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 05:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Jeff Burrows

You wrote: "...do not copy paste text to my talk page or for that matter any page as that is a copvio. Betacommand"

I'm not concerned about copyright when it comes to Jeff Burrows' myspace page, he's a mate, he's not going to take legal action against me *rolling eyes*

bye and best of luck on your continuing crusade! --AusBruce 08:03, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of capitals of subnational entities

Would you restore the above list? The (new) editor nominating it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of capitals of subnational entities, omitted stating that it's a full list of first level subnational entities. It would be regretable, if we just had the FIPS version (without the capital cities): List of FIPS region codes (A-C). -- User:Docu

Have you taken this to WP:DRV? Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 04:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Not yet, I thought you might want to have a second look at it. -- User:Docu

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Breakdown (-core)

Hi, I found your closure of the above a little strange. You didn't specify a target in your AfD closure but I note you left a talk page AfD result and an edit summary which claimed the merge was to Breakdown (music), which is actually a redirect to Break (music). However, the page (and AfD tag) are still at Breakdown (music term), to where the original page (Breakdown (-core)) was redirected during the debate.

The relevant info has been merged there by User:Xdiabolicalx and I've redirected the pages as appropriate. Speaking from experience it's always good to double check redirects / merges are done properly and be as clear as possible in AfD summaries. Deizio talk 13:47, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

That's cool, and don't hesitate to ask if you want a second pair of eyes to look over any closures you're not sure about. I eased myself in to closing AfDs by starting with non-controversial deletes (easy) and working my way up. Merges can be tricky because of the redirects involved and not everything in a given article necessarily needs to be merged into the target. Don't be afraid to leave a closure to someone else if you're not totally sure what to do. Nice one, Deizio talk 14:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] STOP YOU

You are from Spain? ...... I am from Spain and know that I am I write. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raymond Cruise (talk • contribs) 16:36, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

If you block me, I will say it to the administrator.

Yourself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raymond Cruise (talk • contribs) 17:04, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalproof

Sorry about that - my mistake. I'll have a look at 1.3 and then see about trying the beta. Thanks again, --YFB ¿ 16:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Betacommand/North Carolina

Just a heads up: you've accidentally categorized this page into all the AfD categories rather than linking to them. --ais523 17:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] what exactly is your problem?

why are you vandalising articles i edit? is this going to be a personal crusader? is it fun? are you bored? whya not write some articles on your own instead of ruining other ones? --who-am-i 22:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

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For achievement in fighting vandals, mainly on the Hitler page. Bravo! Sharkface217 01:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] VandalProof rejection

Would you care to elaborate on "questionable activity" and anything I can do to rectify it? Thanks. BJ 16:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

As I said when I re added myself to the VP list the WP:3RR warning was bogus, I was warned at one revert of the page, and only reverted the page a total of two times. The "maintenance notices" warning was a matter of opinion, as I felt the notice was redundant. For the WP:BITE warning that was my fault, the template used was overly harsh. Does one mistake and a warning happy user disqualify me from using VandalProof? BJ 22:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VP

Thank you for approving me for VP. I can not get it to work though. I downloaded version 1.3 from your sandbox as you said, {and i also tried version 1.2 and 1.2.2) but it only get "You are not on the user list." Any ideas? --Rettetast 23:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Did you see my message? --Rettetast 23:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Approved to use Vandalproof, but wasn't added to Approved List

Hi... Thanks for your welcome message. Unfortunately, although I was approved to use the tool, I didn't get added to the Approved List. Guess that's why all the options were ghosted! Cudgeled brain trying to figure out why I couldn't get it to work! Ack! --Rrburke 14:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I have version 1.22 --Rrburke 14:42, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Well that explains that. But I can only find 1.3 mentioned on User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof as the upcoming next release. Where am I going wrong? --Rrburke 14:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Got it now. Thanks for the help. --Rrburke 18:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "category disbanded"

Hi there, is there a reason Category:2006 United States Congressional election candidates was disbanded. Was there a CFD? Was it replaced with something else? -MrFizyx 15:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_October_17#Category:2006_United_States_Congressional_election_candidates Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 15:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm. OK, thanks for the info. -MrFizyx 15:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Looks like it worked this time. —Hanuman Das 15:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interwikis in Portuguese

Hi there! No, I don't use programs or scripts to add interwikis. Why? Roberto Cruz 23:13, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Graveworm

Got a slow edit war going on here. WhisperingBoo! 00:50, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Med project

I left a message here. NCurse work 11:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to leave the same message again, but without your help I can't continue reorganizing the project. :) NCurse work 16:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Of course. I did it now. :) NCurse work 21:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! Tomorrow, I will be able to reorganize the whole project. :) NCurse work 21:09, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot Issue

Your bot has reverted a legitimate edit that I made to Talk:Dental Armamentarium page regarding the article being in the scope of WikiProject:Medicine. It isn't - it's part of WikiProject:Dentistry. Please correct this or tell me how to correct it.Dr-G - Illigetimi nil carborundum est. 22:03, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VP Ongoing issue

For some reason my name has been removed from the list of authorized users. I was added by Betacommand here [11], and he welcommed me here[12]. I had difficulties using it, did everything I could myself, was unable to, so I requested assistance here [13]. Instead of assistance, I was removed from the list. Because I have had difficulties on wikipedia recieving help from administrators when requested, this message is in essence a generic template I am writing on all moderators' talk pages and discussion boards in the hopes of recieving if nothing else a response - ideally, however, a solution. Thank you very much and apologies for my impatience. Gregorof/(T) 05:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot beta. =) --Gregorof/(T) 06:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Block

Would you please block 64.9.35.99 for his ongoing page-blankings. Chris5897 (T@£k) 15:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moderator?

Are you currently a VandalProof moderator? If so, you should add your name under User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof#Moderators.--TBCΦtalk? 16:15, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Users having 1.2.2 problems

see: User_talk:AmiDaniel/VP/Discuss#Your_log-in_request_failed

the following have all reported problems: Mr Stephen, Anger22, Michaelas10, NMChico24, Danielrocks123, Wizardman, Firsfron of Ronchester, Rama's arrow, Rlevse, Dionyseus. Can I please get permission for 1.3 myself.--NHSavage 22:08, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comics bot

I think you may as well run the bot. It will be just as easy to untag the articles that need untagging as remove them from the list. Hope that's okay. Steve block Talk 23:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not listed as VandalProof user

Thank you for your welcome message to VandalProof User_talk:Apers0n#Welcome_to_VandalProof.21 - after several attempts at downloading, logging in, updating to most recent version 1.2.2, etc. I finally realised I am not listed in the list of users. Please could you add me and I will have another go. Thanks, --apers0n 16:41, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalproof Problem

Re: your reply on the VP Discuss page, I can't use VP, v1.2.0.2, thanks. Archibald99 13:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Vandalproof 1.22

You requested that I leave a message on your talk page, so here it is. I'm having the same problem as everyone else logging in. EDIT: If the allow lists for 1.22 and 1.3 are different, being allowed on both would be appreciated. Thanks. --Daniel Olsen 07:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

{{notaproxy}}
IP address: 87.161.211.199
IP address: 85.214.65.222
IP address: 82.171.176.227
IP address: 82.168.59.236
IP address: 203.160.1.52
IP address: 85.235.230.58
IP address: 217.206.236.66
IP address: 62.220.102.82
IP address: 208.45.179.82

[edit] VP

I'm another user whose VP access has stopped working. I'm on 1.2.2. Thanks for any help. --Steve 01:22, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Same here. VP 1.2.2 isn't working for me anymore. Firsfron of Ronchester 03:49, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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  • [Talk page] Having problems on the Neil Bush article with blanking of a section and when that didn't work he's now slapped a POV tag on the section. Please come in here and let us know who is within Wikipedia policy or not. Also, if you know of any other admins that could put in thier input as well, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. 67.190.61.6 17:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Antivandalhammer

For you, Betacommand, and for you tireless efforts to stop vandalism on the english Wikipedia. Cheers! -- Wizardry Dragon (Talk to Me) (Support Neutrality on Wikipedia) 18:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I went out hunting vandals today, and when I came back to my userpage, I found someone had left me this nifty antivandalhammer.
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I went out hunting vandals today, and when I came back to my userpage, I found someone had left me this nifty antivandalhammer.


[edit] AfD Concerns?

What exactly is the concern? I don't see what AfD could have to do with vandalism, but I'll be happy to address them, whatever they may be. Shimeru 07:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

  • The reason that I did not approve you is because of your recent conflict about moning things for AfD I am going to not approve you if you would like come back in a month a then we will re assess your status Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 07:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
    • (Copied the above from my talkpage for ease of conversation.) I'm still not sure I see the problem. If it's with nominating articles, I don't intend to refrain from doing that. If it's with others objecting to the nominations, that's outside of my control, but I've done my best to remain civil and dispassionate. Assuming it's not the former, however, I will check back in a few weeks. Thanks for the quick reply. Shimeru 07:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Camber Corporation

You removed the Camber Corporation article I started a month ago. Why?--Pmccormick 22:39, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I saw your note on why you removed Camber but do not understand the issues raised. I am a new user. The company is a major Defense Industry company with numerous senior level US Govt customers, running numerous government programs of record. I am an employee there as are others that were contributing to the article. Please help me do this right. Also please send what was deleted so I do not have to start over again. The help would be appreciated. Thank you.--Pmccormick 04:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof

Hi. You have recently "emptied" the list of the users awaiting approval for the use of VandalProof.[14] The problem is that you removed my name without putting me either to the "Approved" or to the "Rejected Request" category. So, I am not sure whether I need to re-apply for the approval or my application has already been accepted/rejected. Tankred 14:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt response. Tankred 16:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More about VandalProof

Hi, my application for VP was denied due to a 3RR block. While I certainly understand the reasoning for rejecting previously blocked applicants, I'm hoping you might review the decision as there were mitigating circumstances. I violated 3RR due to a mistaken assumption that "blatant POV assertions" could be treated similar to actual vandalism. The blocking admin clarified my error and also acknowledged that I had "moderately good cause". He suggested that if the entry in my block log was problematic I should provide a link to our dialogue and his explanation (link to "Seeking Clarification"). Since then I have taken the time to more thoroughly familiarize myself with the applicable policies and guidelines. In brief, I made an honest mistake and it won't happen again. I know you don't have time to review my User Contributions, but if you did they would show that I participate as a good-faith editor in all areas of WP from content contribution and article improvement to RC Patrol and anti-vandalism. I do hope you'll reconsider my application in light of these circumstances, but either way I'd like to thank you for your time and attention. --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 18:47, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the fast unblock. 70.231.137.254 18:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cat:Actor stubs by county

Typo for "country"? Alai 23:08, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ta

WikiThanks

Cheers for doing that bot thing on the comics stubs, much appreciated. Steve block Talk 22:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Im not done yet im about 1/4 of the way done I was having connection problems with the bot and havent finished yet. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 17:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, thanks now then! Steve block Talk 14:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reasons for block of User:Respect My Authoritah! ?

Hi. We got a complaint to unblock-en-l that a new user was blocked. I checked on their contributions and talk page and such and see no contributions at all, no explanation in the block log for why they were blocked, etc.

Can you explain what the problem was that led to this block?

Thank you.

Georgewilliamherbert 21:28, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

What is your reasoning under WP:USER?
It's a saying of Eric Cartman from South Park. I don't see how it's inappropriate.
Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert 21:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
It's not an IRC channel, it's a mailing list (unblock-en-l@mail.wikimedia.org), which the user block message directs people to as a response if they feel their block was unjustified and they want to appeal it. There are about thirty admins that i know of on the list, and me (I am not an admin) and a few other non-admins. Georgewilliamherbert 22:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Pardon the butting in, but just for the sake of another opinion, I see nothing offensive about this username. Also, whenever blocking, it's a very good idea to leave an explanation on the talk page of the blocked user. This ensures that the blocked user AND anyone who happens to wander by can see the explanation for the block. I'd recommend unblocking in this case. Friday (talk) 22:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey Betacommand, I agree with Friday. I don't find this name offensive in the slightest. In addition, now that it's been discussed on the mailing list, I think there are plenty of admins watching the account if there's any problems with this user. And, yes, please leave a message on accounts when you block them. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 23:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
I've unblocked them and have asked the mailing list to keep and eye on their contributions and reblock if they turn out to be a troll/vandal. Feel free to take it to ANI if you wish. Also, above I meant please leave a message on the user's talk page explaining why you have blocked them (though a block log reason would also be nice). Sarah Ewart (Talk) 23:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Also, you seem to have blocked a lot of accounts with "username" as the reason in the block log but haven't left messages on any talk pages. Please do this. And to be honest, I'm really not sure I understand your interpretation of USERNAME...I do not find some of these accounts to be inviolation of policy. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 23:36, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Going along with that, how is User:Bluhmun! inappropriate? Is it similar to a vandal account? --Mr. Lefty (talk) 23:41, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
! should not be in usernames per USERNAME Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 23:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but I didn't see that particular clause in there. Could you tell me exactly where it is in the policy page? --Mr. Lefty (talk) 23:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
@ shouldn't be in a username but I've never read ! can't be. In fact, off the top of my head, we have at least one Admin who has an exclamation point in his name: User:Radiant!. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 23:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
I mistook nonlatin letters. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 00:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, well please unblock people you have mistakenly blocked. Thanks, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 00:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof

Hi. Unfortunately, it seems that I am not on the list despite your message.[15] Perhaps there is some other technical problem, but I guess the omitted user name is the most probable explanation. The VandalProof still tells me "You are not on the user list". Can you fix it please whenever you have time? Thanks Tankred 00:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

The version is from User talk:Betacommand/Sandbox. The talk page says it is 1.3. The file has approximately 1.3MB. Tankred 00:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I have no IRC client installed on this computer. Tankred 01:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I am also having trouble logging in all the sudden. I was able to about 4 hours ago, now it says I am not on the user list. What happened? --Kf4bdy talk contribs 07:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof login issues

Hi! I've been using VP for the past week or so with no problem. Today when I tried to "Verify Authorization" it told me I wasn't on the user list (I am, see here). Just wondering if this is something that is a problem on my end of things or if the problem is based elsewhere. Thanks! --Benwildeboer 12:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for block

Could you please check User talk:Kevin 13 and User talk:Wowowee 2006 and see if these guys should be blocked? Thanks. Doberdog 16:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Request for unblock

I am Bobabobabo, i am using my home computer. To tell you the truth, I was a wonderful contributor to articles in Wikipedia "Yu-Gi-OH and Pokemon". The story began when a user named Mitsumasa began creating and upload Pokemon images and articles.

After about 5 months after the start of the articles the PCP began merging the articles (A Man In Black, Ryulong, Interrobamf) i tried talking to them, and the PCP but they did'nt listen. I even tried to leave a committ on their usertalk pages but A Man in Black is the only one that responds to my committ. I gave up until recently students at my school "The Learning Community School" began bullying me, they knew that I was a contributor at the site "Wikipedia", so they told my teacher that they logged in some accounts and began vandalizing the articles that I personattly was currently having problems with you. My teacher Mrs. Lisa Mercato talked to the students Jene', Jessica, Aaron and restricted them from using the school computer.

I'm very sorry. May you please unblock me and my IP address 72.177.68.38. May you please just make it that I can create a new account. It is a total misunderstanding. If you want to talk to my teacher, please email her at lmercato@yahoo.com. The block is casuing the school not to edit Wikipedia. Thank you, and God Bless. (18:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] VP

Hi, I recently submitted a request for VP access. Nothing happened so I went back to check why... apparently you removed my entry along with a bunch of others with no note as to why. I'd really appreciate an explanation. ---J.S (t|c) 18:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof login

I've been using VP since 13 Oct, but today "Verify Authorization" told me I wasn't on the user list; and indeed I am not (Pc1dmn). Can anything be done re this? roundhouse 18:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Have a barnstar

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
I, Michaelas10, hereby award you this RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar for outstanding efforts done on reverting vandalism in Wikipedia, and for being extremely helpful over the VP channel. :) Michaelas10 (Talk) 19:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Block

Thanks for unblocking. Please tell me what the bad link was that I created. I will be happy to correct it. HOT L Baltimore 21:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof Corrupt User List

I've recently also gotten errors telling me that I'm not on the user list, and then later, that the list was corrupt. Thinking that it was something on my side, I traced VandalProof to the VandalProof "L" page, of which the encryption is apparently corrupted, perhaps due to something wrong with the reverts? Hope it gets fixed soon! Ddcc 22:37, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tagging

Well, for starters, could you please tag Category:South Park pages with {{SouthParkProject}}? Thanks. -- Selmo (talk) 02:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Awesome. Again, thanks. -- Selmo (talk) 03:42, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof

Hi Betacommand,

Thanks for your recent efforts to get VandalProof up and running for everyone again, and your prompt answers! That's really appreciated. From what I understand, the problem is caused by the userlist being too long. Well, you can remove one name from the list, if that will help. :) On User:AmiDaniel/VP/Approval, you have both user:Firsfron and user:Firsfron of Ronchester listed. Both of those accounts are me, and only User:Firsfron requests VandalProof access (the Firsfron of Ronchester account has very few edits and has no need for VandalProof; it is only used for page protection testing). Sorry for any confusion my signature may have caused. Thanks again for everything, Firsfron of Ronchester 14:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks
Thank you for the extra feathers on my wings!

Thank you so much, Betacommand, for your support in my RfA, which passed on November 11, 2006, with a final tally of 82/0/2. I am humbled by the kind support of so many fellow Wikipedians, and I vow to continue to work and improve with the help of these new tools. Should you have any request, do not hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Húsönd 21:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thanks, Betacommand. This thing's fun to use. :-) Heimstern Läufer 07:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just a question

Is there by any chance, a way to obtain use of VandalProof, without having enough edits?? I'm trying to work them up slowly, by removing vandalism, and just today, reverted vandalism to Salvador Dali, today's featured page. Please let me know, Thanks. Ardo 01:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Usernames

  • User:WIKIPEDIAWASBEHINDTHEWORLDTRADECENTERATTACKS
  • User:EVERYONE WHO EDITS WIKIPEDIA IS A JEW AND SHOULD BE SHOT
  • User:MONGOhasAIDSinHISpool
  • etc., etc.

Do you think that just maybe, someone was in slight violation WP:POINT? The whole situation come almost be funny, if it wasn't so blantaly awful and sad. Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 06:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Eagle 101

Hello. Why did you revert the question I posted on Eagle's talk page? -- StAkAr Karnak 16:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delete versions

I know you are an administrator. Is it possible to have an entire version of a page to compleltey dissapear? If so, who can do that or who would need to be contacted to do that? Thanks! Chris Kreider 18:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

You need to request this from a user with the oversight permission. Most administrators don't have this. Try asking a bureaucrat or a steward. Cheers, ✎ Wizardry Dragon (Talk to Me) (My Contributions) (Page Moves) (Support Neutrality on Wikipedia) 18:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. I do not want to draw alot of attention to the topic of I would elaborate. Thanks again! Much appreciated. Chris Kreider 18:23, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Problem with VandalProof

Thanks very much for approving me to use VandalProof, but I haven't been able to use it so far. When I click on the 'verify authorization' button nothing happens, I haven't been able to find myself on the authorized user list so is this why I can't use it? Thanks for your help. Gasheadsteve 17:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thank you.

Thank you for believing me about my friend. You shall not be sorry.

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[edit] testing

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[edit] Any idea why "MOVEit" page got deleted?

History shows you deleted it yesterday - know why? [16] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jonathan.lampe@standardnetworks.com (talk • contribs) .

Yes I do, and if you looked at the deletion summary you would know also. The article in question was PRODed, for futher questions please see our deletion policy Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 14:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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