Talk:Beside You in Time

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[edit] Alrighty folks

Let the rampant speculation begin. Just for reference, the setlist from the two shows filmed...

Oklahoma: 1. Pilgrimage 2. Love Is Not Enough 3. You Know What You Are? 4. Sin 5. Terrible Lie 6. The Line Begins To Blur 7. March Of The Pigs 8. Something I Can Never Have 9. Closer 10. Burn 11. Gave Up 12. Eraser 13. Right Where It Belongs 14. Beside You In Time 15. With Teeth 16. Wish 17. Only 18. Every Day Is Exactly The Same 19. Even Deeper 20. Suck 21. Hurt 22. The Hand That Feeds 23. Head Like A Hole

El Paso: 1. Pinion 2. Love Is Not Enough 3. You Know What You Are? 4. Terrible Lie 5. The Line Begins To Blur 6. March Of The Pigs 7. Something I Can Never Have 8. Closer 9. Burn 10. Gave Up 11. Eraser 12. Right Where It Belongs 13. Beside You In Time 14. With Teeth 15. Wish 16. Only 17. Every Day Is Exactly The Same 18. Even Deeper 19. The Big Come Down 20. Suck 21. Hurt 22. The Hand That Feeds 23. Head Like A Hole

...that's from the tour section of taosd. Have fun editing, maybe make a reference to the advances in technology that NIN have been forging ahead with (remember the Garageband multitracks?). Could this be the first live show ever to be filmed and released specifically with hi-def in mind? Who knows, but this is exciting nevertheless. Can someone change the NIN infobox to add Halo 22 and the title of this release? Thanks. BotleySmith 16:16, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VC-1 codec updates

The horse's mouth:

"Currently we are using a VC-1 codec for both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray versions. However, so far we're not quite getting what we need out of VC-1. Microsoft is continually updating the codec, and is in fact making adjustments to it specifically to accommodate our project. There is a possibility right now that we could bump up the Blu-Ray disc to a dual-layer (currently we're working on single-layer) and re-encode with double the bitrate. If that ends up being the case (it's still being discussed due to production costs and manufacturing availabilities), the Blu-Ray version would be noticeably better looking than the HD-DVD version. A dual-layer HD-DVD has 30gb of space, while a dual-layer Blu-Ray has 50gb, and we'll use up all of that to get the best encode, so obviously the Blu-Ray would end up looking better if you have the eyes and equipment to notice. I will definitely let everyone know if that ends up being the case, but regardless, we will make sure both versions of the disc look great.

"The main problem we're having with VC1 is the same problem we've always had with any codec: Our material is simply too frantic and requires a massively high bitrate. With a high enough bitrate it's no problem. VC1 works best with average movies, which don't have nearly as much going on in terms of video information (not to mention being only 24fps and oftentimes having a wider aspect ratio that cuts down on image size). At this point the authoring people working on our DVD are directly in touch with the VC1 folks at Microsoft, who are looking at our material as a reference for their codec, so we'll most assuredly get the absolute best possible image quality out of it."

...that's from two posts by Rob Sheridan on The Spiral

BotleySmith 16:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Would Rob be annoyed with Spiral-only stuff being on Wikipedia? -Heroicraptor 22:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I pointed it out to him, and he hasn't objected so far. BotleySmith 04:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Then I'd say, put it in, wherever it should go. -Heroicraptor 05:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)