Talk:Berber mythology

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38.119.129.16 16:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)Hi, I did my best to write a readable article, i know my i'm not the best writer in English, and i'm not the most accurate writer either. I believe i've the needed sources to defend the content of the article. So, please help with improving my English and the content. If you believe that a claim is not accurate or even wrong, please use the talk-page [although you're not obligated] to explain your opinion. You might also be wrong! On the other hand, this article is not done, i wrote now only on the polytheistic part of the berber beliefs. I'll later try to add the monotheistic part of the berber beliefs. I'm gratefull for you coorporation and expanding of the article.Read3r 13:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image's copyright

The image in this following site is a picture for a numidian pyramid, it is found in other sites too. Do i violate the copyrights of the image by uploading it here? http://elguanche.net/imedghasen.jpg Thanks in advance, Read3r 19:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Judaism in Northwest Africa

OK, I did a little bit of proofing/editing on the Judaism section of your article--(ethnocentric Jew that I am, I ignored the rest). It still needs professional help. For your comment about "David U Moshe" or "David N Baruch" being Jewish Berber names, what do you mean? "David", "Baruch" and "Moshe" are simply Hebrew names ... Do you mean that the "U" and the "N" respectively are the idicators of Berber influence on these Jewish names? Wouldn't it then be something like "Davidou"? I don't know enough about Berber to say. I think some seriopus fact checking and editing needs ot be done, no offense. 38.119.129.16 16:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the corrections! I meant that those saints names were influenced by the Berber language. And yes, that is the "N" and "U". "N" means "Of" [English]. It is comperable with "Ben":
The saints of the major pilgrimage sites at Agouim and Tinzert (in the Sous) were known as Rabbi David U Moshe and Rabbi David N Baruch respectively. This is clear evidence of Berber speech, but it is also true that linguistic forms can be preserved in names long after a given language has ceased being spoken by a community (cf. O'Brien, MacDonald). THE MELLAHS OF SOUTHERN MOROCCO: REPORT OF A SURVEY (The Maghreb Review 8, 3-4,1983, pp. 61-69) By Harvey E. Goldberg: .
For checking the factuality, we have this talk-page, feel free to discuss al your remarks like you now did! [Personal Invitation]. but one thing has to be respected, the fact is a fact whether it is attrackting or not. : ) . Read3r 13:35, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christianity in Northwest Africa

Hi Smith2006, sorry for reverting your contribution in that section. My reasons are: Unsufficient content: Its says not a lot about the history of the christianity in Northwest Africa. It does not show how christianity emerged there, and how the people approached it. Also it didn't say any thing about the contribution of the north africans.

The struggle between the Romans and the berbers was ignored.

I don't believe that the Moroccan christians suffers in morocco for their religion.

What you said about the some berbers converted to christianity during the colonization is doubtful.

If you insist you can re-revert it. Maybe, we will discuss it after some months. I left that section as last one, because i know it is difficult and i wanted to learn more before writing there about. Best regards; Read3r 14:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I removed your contribution again; Other reasons are: Your contribution was almost contentless to the history of the christianity in the Berber communities. I agree with you that the section was called "Christianity in North west Africa". Nevertheless, the article is about "the Berber beliefs". So, it was not aimed to cover neither the history of the Greeks or "Ibero-Romans" in North Africa nor the Moroccan and Algerian muslims. Sorry for sayying it is irrelevant to the Berber beliefs. If you think it is an urgent fact that cannot bear any ignorance, you can write those relevant statemnets in an article called "christianity in Morocco and Algerian". Furthermore, i don't see why you are insisting to write it. What did i learnt?

  • "Islam eredicated the chrisianity in Northwest africa": How big was the christian community in Northwest Africa?
  • The Greeks, Berbers, and ibero-romans were donatists: Was it not the Berber who created and adopted donatism to fight the Romans?
  • Which catholics were there in North Africa at those times?
  • How confusing and inaccurat is it when sayying that some Berbers converted to christianity by any one?
  • What did i learnt about the Berber beliefs when sayying that the christians are suffering from Morocco, algeria and some muslims?

In any case, the content should be written in relationship with the Berbers, and there is no need to take morocco, algeria, Iran and muslims into consideration. So, write another relevant content, and you will see i'm happy to read it. Read3r 10:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

Is it allowed to post citations of ancient historians like "Herodotus" in wikipedia? This is an example of a citation: but about this god the Hellenes learnt from the Libyans, for no people except the Libyans have had the name of Poseidon from the first and have paid honour to this god always I copied this citaion from this site. Do we need to refer to the source if it is an acceptable idea? Read3r 14:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

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