User talk:BenAveling

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[edit] RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA discussion! I appreciate you contributing your voice to the debate and its outcome. I hope how I wield the mop makes you proud. Thanks!

— Saxifrage

[edit] Please reconsider Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Third_holiest_site_in_Islam_(expression)

You said rename but there is already an article for that purpose. I have posted a coment on AFD page, please take a look. Thank you. --- ALM 21:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry but that will not solve the problem. They will count your vote in keep. The POV filled article will then be kept. Rename is as good as saying keep :( . --- ALM 11:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Most of the contents in the third holiest site article already exist in the related articles of those sites. These individual sections are just listing already existing article in this "third holiest site in Islam" article to create a conspiracy about Muslims third holiest site. The Ziyarat article does not have such contents because it goal is NOT to create similar conspiracy but to list them. I hope you can understand the point I am trying to make? --- ALM 19:16, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

If you really understant then I think you should help in delete that article which they have creating based on media website just to make a point (WP:POINT) and dispute Muslims long standing claim about Al-Aqsa Mosque importance. -- ALM 19:31, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My arbcom questions

I'm asking questions of candidates I'm thinking of voting for. Some I've made up my mind to vote 'yes', based on experience. (George, Flo). Some I've currently expecting to abstain, sometimes because I don't know them at all, sometimes because I expect a pile-on oppose. And some, I'm thinking about voting for, so I'm asking questions. I've read (confession: skimmed) what's already been asked and answered, so I sometimes adjusted on the fly, but the basic questions were

1. Which of the following roles should arbcom members fulfil: judge, jury, executioner, detective, lawyer, psychoanalyst, teacher, leader, parole board, parole officer, weighing machine, opinion poll, weathervane, policeman, keeper of the vision, guardian of the peace, visionary, psychic, nurse, other?

2. What would wikipedia lose if you were appointed to the ArbCom?

3. An individual question. Sometimes tailored to the candidate, sometimes just a random question.

The answer I would give to the first question are judge, jury and none of the others. And also, now that I think of it, asker of questions. What I want to know, and credit to anyone who visits here before answering, is to what extent they see the role of arbcom as weighing the evidence presented, which is my view, vs the more activist role some people seem to imagine.

The answer to the second question should be 'something significant', and preferably something wikipedia related. If you don't expect joining the arbcom doesn't reduce the time you spend on other aspects of wikipedia, then I want to know why.

I'm happy to discus any of the other questions I've asked. Sometimes I have an answer in mind, sometimes I don't. I just want to see how people respond.

Regards, Ben Aveling 22:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Based on the responses to questions, mine and other peoples, I now expect I will be voting for Geogre, Flo Night, Nandesuka, John and MONGO. Geogre and Flo I've had interactions with before, and I've been impressed. The others on this list, I've seen around, and I liked their answers for different reasons. Perhaps because they all show an ability to think and to be bold in making that clear. There are others I'd be glad to see get up, but I think I'm going to limit myself to 5 yes votes, mainly because there are 5 places on offer. I guess I'm not ruling out changing my mind, but at this stage, that's the thinking. Regards, Ben Aveling 10:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joseph Todaro Sr.

Ben,

I just arrived back in town yesterday, to start I appreciate the support I got from you, Zoe and Alex, I love these other so called experts, writing style can always be improved and I stand behind all my Buffalo-Todaro family information, I think the thousands of Buffalo News articles are a reliable sourc. We have Buffalo crime writers like Lee Coppola that have been writing about the Buffalo Family and the Todaros for 30 years. By the way I still have everything I copied off the Buffalo Mobsite by Supercrack, which covers everything he did. His writing style is very loose and the grammer needs work, but the point is made. There's a ton of information that I never mentioned about the Todaro's because I've never set out to demean or slander anyone, actually I thaught I made Joe Todaro out to be really respectable. I go to La Nova regularly, it's in my old neighbourhood and believe me when I tell you the todaro family do alot for the community, but also trust me when I say that I didn't mention shit. I never mentioned the murders that they've been directly implicated in, not to mention every one in the Buffalo area knows that they controlled one of the largest narcotics rings in Western New York, along the East coast and up to Florida in the 1980's and early 1990's. My father went to the dice and card games in the 1970's and 80's that were held in the Grant St. and Hertal Ave. area and became friends with Jimmy Sicurella, the man accussed of being the shooter in the Cammilleri hit. As far as posting anymore articles or anything a else, let the MAFIA EXPERT handle it, I'm to busy writing a screenplay. Thanks again.

Little Joe Shots

By the way, if your interested in that Buffalo Family info, there's enough for a book, so if you can figure an easy way for me to get it, to you let me know.

[edit] Straw poll

Please provide me with a list of questions you want to be asked in the upcoming straw poll on my talk page. Or post them here [1]WikieZach| talk 21:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joseph Todaro, Sr.

Mr. Aveling,

I was curious if you've heard any news on Joseph Todaro, Sr. article yet ? I've created a temporary subpage to address the issues of the former article, although I haven't heard anything from Zoe yet. MadMax 22:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

As I recall, Zoe was happy for us to create a new page, so long as we're careful about BLP. So far, it looks good. Regards, Ben Aveling 12:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comments on ArbCom votes

Hi there. I noticed that you added a few comments to other people's comments in the ArbCom elections. Well, I seem to remember a few, but can only now find one (would you be able to track down the other ones?). The general agreement seemed to be that comments on votes belonged on the talk page of the voting page, though your comments seemed to be of the "corrective" sort. The example I noticed was here:

• Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2006/Vote/Geogre

...where you commented on the first oppose vote, by Cyde. Looking at the history, Cyde removed the comment with this edit, and placed it on the talk page with this edit. I happen to agree with your pointing out that Cyde's comment was not a balanced presentation of what happened. Would you consider asking him to correct his comment himself? More generally, how do you think such matters should be handled in future. Also, if you do find any of the other comments you made and whether they were similarly moved, could you let me know? Thanks. Carcharoth 14:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)