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[edit] Thank you for your Poland-related contributions

Hello Beaumont! Thank you for your contributions related to Poland. You may be interested in visiting Portal:Poland/Poland-related Wikipedia notice board, joining our discussions and sharing your creations with us.

-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus  talk  22:10, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lech Kaczyński

I have extracted this passage of yours: The twins were also criticized by Lech Wałęsa who qualified them as humans without the necessary format[1].Suddeutsche Zeitung's analysis claims, however, that President's indignation made visible a well-known mental asymetry phenomenon in Polish-German relations; the asymetry meaning there a relatively low level of knowledge about Poles and some historical German prejudices against the neighbor nation [2]. I found those clauses unsuitable. The first is just a deprecative opinion and there are always a deluge of those.

The second is not "Suddeutsche Zeitung's analysis". They published several articles to it and this article or let's say editorial is more about jokes. Their apt analysis came weeks before. http://www.sueddeutsche.de/,polm1/ausland/artikel/985/79906/ What'S the "however" doing in there? Is the editorial trying to say that the taz article was showing a low level of knowledge about Poles and it was a historical German prejudice? Or that all of a sudden the taz article made visible those things as if by magic. The edtorial's headline made it loud and clear. The next Pole-joke is sure to come, that would make an editorial about Pole-jokes newsworthy. But it hadn't by then and before the editorial deadline would be missed some other connections to current events had to be made in its place. These would be so foolish, however, that it was better not to specify them. --Goethe 11:40, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. There are more deep reasons to add the entire passage than it looks at the very first glance. Since I'm partially reverting, I've moved the answer to the Lech Kaczyński article's discussion --Beaumont 20:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help:Recent changes

I am pretty sure anybody, not only admins, can view Recent Changes (visible in the first toolbox to the left). I am not an admin on pl wiki but I can easily access Specjalna:Recentchanges. And yes, the text you quoted from pl wiki is somewhat misleading - but the article from Rzecz was about en wiki anyway.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus  talk  00:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Herbert translations

I am pretty sure that Miłosz did collaborate on translations of Herbert. I remember being fairly impressed with his translations, and noting how he even put in an explanatory reference to a Sŀowacki quote relevant to one of the poems, a note which is absent in the Polish editions of Herbert, presumably because the reference is clear enough to Polish poetry readers. In general I recall finding more to quibble with in the Carpenter versions. Stumps 22:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I've tracked down the details of the Miłosz translation and restored the entry in the Zbigniew Herbert article, adding more details. Stumps 04:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

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Well, the source that time was wikipedia with none license selected... (yes, I know that it is an excellent idea to talk to a bot). Beaumont 21:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semantic transparence

Hi ... I don't 100 percent understand the footnote and quotation you've added to the Herbert article .. is this quoting something Herbert he himself said? And where does the 'Meeting' (spotkania?) fit in? Did Odra print speeches from a conference? Who is the translation by? I like the quote ... I simply want to understand who said it or wrote it and where it was printed. Pozdrawiam. Stumps 07:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I would be interested in seeing the original text if you can dig it up. I don't think we need to put "editor's translation" (just as we don't put "editors' text" on the articles) ... I asked because I was trying to clarify the sources, and thought there might have been a published translation. Stumps 11:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the original of the Herbert quote ... one doesn't get to see the word 'owa' very much :) ... I like the quote very much, and it is clear from reading Herbert's verse that it was a principle he followed in his work. I've made an attempt at translating the passage more directly, and updated the article accordingly ... change anything you like of course, there are some patches I'm not yet quite happy with. Stumps 16:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History of Solidarity

Since you commented on the article's talk page in the past, I thought you may want to take a look at the FAC review. Your comments, as that of a person familiar with the article, would certainly be appreciated.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  02:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Tnx for the comments. You have decided not to voe?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  15:50, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I was also suprised it was delisted so early. I asked Raul for reasons, he has not got back to me yet, which I find a further suprise (feel free to ask him too, he is busy and maybe more people enquiring will make him reply sooner). Thank you for your edit and comments; no need to be sorry - we all have priorities, and if the first FAC fails (which is not yet certain given we have more supports than opposes and Raul has yet to reply), we can always start a second one. Although I'd like to hear from some other users I asked for help/comments, some further reviews and edits should ensure an even higher quality level (I also asked one academic for an academic review, possibly I will ask another if that one doesn't get back to me soon).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  20:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On October 20, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mury (song), which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 03:39, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Night of the Living Death

The vandalizers and anti-vandalizers know how to keep eachother busy, isn't it?--Daanschr 13:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 31 October 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article digital sundial, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Allen3 talk 16:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


The Exceptional Newcomer Award
Since you have joined our community in June, you have continued to contribute extensivly to content and discussions. For your great assistance I, Piotrus, award you The Exceptional Newcomer Award. Keep up the good job! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  22:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BABEL

Could you add languages known to your userpage? It would be quite useful for such items. And as I can see your French is better than mine, could you see if there is anything in French article about Katyn that could be added to ours? They have some interested footnotes about Nuremberg, but it would take me too long to translate them - rozumiem piąte przez dziesiąte :>-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  17:23, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, the Babel language userboxes are very useful and used by almost all editors - they help others know what translations they can request and what non-English sources they can give you in discussions, among other things.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  17:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I can see your point, but I don't think it will help you in the long run: as long as you seem to contribute to Poland-related articles, agree on some issues with me and Halibutt and worst of all, use the WP:PWNB, you will get classified as a 'Polish POV pusher' sooner or later - so if you actually are not Polish, it would be good for you to note that as soon as possible on your userpage :> -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  22:36, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Panevėžys

Part of my objection in putting in these "foreign" toponyms, regards their being put in the leads of the articles. Relevant "historical" information is not objectionable to me being put into any article. The operative word being "relevant". For a while some were justifying such inclusions as trivial as quoting a novel written in the 19th century, mentioning the toponym as being the basis for putting it it the lead. Since you are opting for a historical perspective, can I count on your objectivity, and see if you will put the Lithuanian toponyms in the article leads of Lublin Union of Lublin, and Krakow (Capital of the Jagiellons)? Then we can discuss this some more, if you like. Dr. Dan 17:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quote

From your userpage: Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right, but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks. - oh, that's so true... :) And thanks for your comments at my RfC. It's always nice to see that one is not alone or going crazy...-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  21:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Again, a very good quote to summarize the stuation - perhaps you could share them at the RfC. I have to admit I don't know the author (I am not googling to cheat :); if I'd had to guess I'd go with Samuel Clemens :) Once again, thank you for the kind words, and let me reply with one of my favourite quotes: The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing. Want to guess the author? :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  17:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)