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[edit] Old discussion

• Archive 1 (2003/04)
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[edit] No source image

Image:Mattcohen.jpg has no source and will be deleted in 7 days. YellowDot 04:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Giller Prize longlist

Just curious as to why you think the longlist should not be acknowledged on the Giller Prize page. It's the first year that this was instituted for this prize, so I suggest that it's worth recognizing. (It's also cross-referenced on the pages of some of the authors who were longlisted.) In addition, the Booker Prize shows both the long- and shortlist, per:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booker_prize#The_2006_Prize

so doing the same for the Giller Prize would not be inconsistent.

VickiZ 17:45, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Cool ... thanks for the quick restore and fix. VickiZ 17:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CIRH-FM

Bearcat, could you check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:CIRH-FM

Apparently, someone wants to delete the CIRH article. What do you think? Maple Leaf fan '04 19:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One for the exceptions list

Hi...could you add Projet Orange to the exceptions list? I realize that "projet" is a fairly common misspelling for "project", but in this particular case it's actually the correct spelling of the band's name — while they perform English material now, they started off as a francophone band from Quebec City and originally named themselves in French. (The bot made the change on Simon Wilcox, a musician who's collaborated with the band in the past. I've already fixed it back.) Thanks. Bearcat 23:54, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bearcat, my apologies for miscorrecting Projet on the Simon Wilcox page; exception duly noted! I've checked and as it turns out I've already got Projet down as an exception on the Projet Orange page, and I'll watch out for this one in future. Cheers, CmdrObot 00:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editor Review

Hey, long time no talk! I've recently put myself up for the Editor Review process. With the (seeming) end of the Vaughan-gate mess, I've been back to normal editing for the last while and wanted some outside opinions as to what kind of job I'm doing; if I'm on the right track, if there's anything I can do to improve, etc. If you have some free time, I'd really appreciate it if you could take a look and leave me some feedback! Thanks. --Chabuk 03:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please use edit summaries

Hello. Please be courteous to other editors and use edit summaries when updating articles. The Mathbot tool shows your usage of edit summaries to be low:

Edit summary usage for Bearcat: 19% for major edits and 100% for minor edits. Based on the last 150 major and 150 minor edits in the article namespace.

Using edit summaries helps other editors quickly understand your edits, which is especially useful when you make changes to articles that are on others' watchlists. Thanks and happy editing! --Kralizec! (talk) 03:03, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rachel Marsden

Someone has restored the speedy tag and made other changes to Rachel Marsden after you removed the tag. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 23:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Petawawa typo on map

Hehe, oops :) Will get that fixed ASAP. Snickerdo 10:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian city naming convention

Since you were involved in helping develop a separate Canadian convention, I thought you would like to know that some editors have proposed merging the American and Canadian conventions and dragging Canadian city names once again into their endless debate over the appropriateness of the "City, State" form. The fun is at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements)#Proposal: U.S. to adopt and merge with Canadian convention. Skeezix1000 11:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Precedents

Thanks for your clarification and support of the comments that I had made under Companies.

Sincerely,

Kevin Murray 15:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. city naming guideline change proposal

Since you left a comment in the "Not Yet" section of the U.S. city naming guideline change proposal, it has been revised to no longer merge U.S. with Canada. Please reconsider your vote here. --Serge 20:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 4 year tearms for Ontario Mayors

Can you put a reference for the new 4 year term. Kingjeff 21:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Voting Conventions

I overlooked your vote. Sorry! And thanks... I hope we can finally achieve something this time. --Serge 22:29, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] template:infobox ski area

You just made a small change to this template, but it's unclear why.

1. The change leads to some silly wikicode:

<noinclude>
[{Category:Ski resorts]]</noinclude><noinclude>

2. It appears all the ski resort and ski area articles which use it are no longer included in the category. Why? — EncMstr 00:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Decimal10

Hate to bother you, but Decimal10 is at it again, engaging in wholesale reverts to the Tim Hortons article (erasing the edits of various editors), and taking a particularly "firm stance" in the whole "doughnut vs. donut" discussion. I have left him a message on his talk page explaining why I believe his behaviour is inappropriate (User talk:Decimal10#Your vandalism of Tim Hortons), which I imagine he will likely simply erase or ignore. I am expecting more petulant behaviour from him any time now. As always, any assistance and third party input is appreciated. Skeezix1000 18:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quebec Barnstar of National Merit

For your dedication to the development of knowledge about Quebec in the world, for your faithfulness to French America and the homeland of your ancestors, for your altruistic work as the citizen of an external territory, for your courageous and wise defense of Quebec-related articles, I proudly award you the Quebec Barnstar of National Merit.
Liberlogos 07:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Pour votre dévouement au développement du savoir au sujet du Québec chez nos sœurs et nos frères du monde anglophone et du globe, pour votre fidélité à l'Amérique française et la patrie de vos ancêtres, pour votre travail altruiste en tant que citoyen d'un territoire externe, pour votre défense courageuse et sage d'articles apparentés au Québec (par exemple List of Quebec television series et Quebec bashing), je vous décerne fièrement la Quebec Barnstar of National Merit. --Liberlogos 07:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your AFD for Frot and G0ys

hey your nomination of frot and Goys for deletion was thrown out on a technicality, I've started another AfD for Frot would you care to leave a comment?Onhm 00:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fifth Column

Please move Fifth Column (band) back to the original Fifth Column. This move was done by a user without any consensus or discussion and it had been at the prior title for quite a long time. Thanks. ThePatriot 11:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response. Here's the thing: the article is called Fifth Column rather than Fifth column - the latter is an entirely different article. The word fifth column is a generic phrase found in any dictionary. This is why I'm positive why no one except two users had a problem with the article convention. Maybe some people are offended by queercore, who knows. But the fact remains that since the band is named Fifth Column (capitalized) and this form is never used in the generic sense (fifth column), it's ridiculous for this user to have moved it to Fifth Column (band). It's just stupid. ;) ThePatriot 00:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clive Thompson

You added Clive Thompson as a writer of This Magazine[1]. I am currently preparing an article about a Clive Thompson (UK business man connected to the Farepak collaps - see User:Agathoclea/Sandbox#Clive_Thompson). I assume it is a different one, but want to make sure. Agathoclea 19:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question re:AfD

Hi, I had the impression that in an AfD, the comments "Keep", "Merge", "Rename", or "Redirect" would all be treated as "Keep" by a closing Admin, since they all indicate a view that the article should not be deleted. After reviewing your statements at the Frot AfD, I wonder if I'm mistaken. My basic position is that the article should be kept, but I'm not opposed to renaming it. If you could clarify this for me I would certainly consider changing my comments if it seems appropriate. I wanted to ask you directly because you're an Admin, and therefore clearly more experienced than I. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me on this one. --Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 20:45, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Bearcat. The basic WP guidelines are pretty straightforward, but the finer points aren't always obvious. It helps a lot when more experienced editors are willing to explain. Happy editing :) --Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 21:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Activity on Talk:Mordecai Richler

As an experienced Wikipedia user with an interest in the topic, would you be kind enough to look into the recent activity on the Talk:Mordecai Richler page? My claim is that Lance made a threat to wholesale delete a section of the article, attempting to hold us hostage to accomplish a goal of his (which I sympathize with though I have not said so), and then he posted to the Talk page the complete text of a copyrighted magazine article and reverted it several times when an editor and I removed it. I think he is relatively new, and hope that a word or two may have a calming effect. Hu 01:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for your good work and considered comments in this matter. Victoriagirl 02:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I endorse Victoriagirl's thanks. Hu 03:27, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rebecca Cummings

Bearcat,

You have previously helped with the Rebbecca Cummings article. The article has been put up for deletion. I would like your unbiased input on the article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rebecca Cummings.

She may not be the most notable person on Wikipedia but she fits the notability criteria from the Wikipedia guideline Wikipedia:Notability (pornographic actors). Her notability is listed in her article and restated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rebecca Cummings.

Thanks for your input! --HeartThrobs 22:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Spiritofthewest.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Spiritofthewest.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. --Chowbok ☠ 20:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:People from Beirut

That's very interesting. Can you link me to the policy I missed? Erechtheus 07:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jane (Issa's) "Maria"

Bonjour. I stumbled across the Maria article today and I saw that you wrote created the article and wrote most of what was there. To be honest, I thought much of the article was quite flaky. But what to make of this sentence: "Critics had often labelled Siberry as quirky, but this was the first track in her discography to be widely considered outright flaky." Flaky? Your opinion? Or some critic? Anyway, I re-wrote the article and added a wiki-album table, too.DDD DDD 10:58, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Great. Glad you didn't insert your own opinion in the article. But, looking at the history of that article, it appears that you wrote it.

Here's the link to the last edit by you (and up until then, only you had edited the article): http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maria_%28Jane_Siberry_album%29&oldid=16987352 (Revision as of 03:37, 7 December 2004). Or maybe someone else did it but used your handle. Or maybe I am reading it all wrong.DDD DDD 11:16, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

You wrote on my user page: "I don't insert my own opinions into articles. Never have, and didn't start with that one. One doesn't generally get to be an administrator on here if one doesn't know how to keep their own views out of their edits." Obviously one becomes busy when one becomes an administrator and that is understandable. And so, one may make errors. But clearly, you Bearcat inserted your opinion into an article (Maria)in December, 2004 (TWO YEARS!!! - way to go wikipedia!!!) where it remained until I edited it out this evening. As you yourself are aware, one's own opinions do not belong in an article. I am kindly asking you to please refrain from putting anymore of your own opinions in articles. Thank you.DDD DDD 12:25, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Maybe I am mistaken. But, you put into the article the following: "Critics had often labelled Siberry as quirky, but this was the first track in her discography to be widely considered outright flaky." I am having trouble with the WHOLE sentence, and certainly the last few words are outrageous. If it's not your opinion but the opinion of someone else, a critic perhaps, you should have cited it - but you didn't. The reader was left to believe that it is YOUR opinion. Or it's plagiarism. Simple.DDD DDD 13:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joanie4Jackie

Dear Bearcat:

I am writing for your assistance with an article I have just created calledJoanie4Jackie. The minute I finished typing it, it was nominated for deletion by User:Bladeswin. It is my view that the article is a notable example of a cultural product, a zine, created by a notable woman director, Miranda July, and with contributions by other notable women directors, including Tammy Rae Carland, Lisa Hammer, Sarah Jacobson and G.B. Jones, all who have their own pages included on Wikipedia. It is also my view that perhaps those unfamiliar with alternative culture or in the case of several of these directors, queer culture, might not understand the importance of such a project. It is my belief that it is certainly as notable as many of the zines profiled on Wikipedia. I would be interested in your opinion, whether that assistance comes in the form of how to improve the article or in the form of voting to subject the page to an open vote, rather than being the subject of a speedy deletion, or any other suggestions you can offer. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Intheshadows 04:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More replaceable fair-use images

• Image:Tessamcwatt.jpg
• Image:Tomsonhighway.jpg
• Image:Wendylill.jpg
• Image:Willferguson.jpg

—Chowbok ☠ 21:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Studio 58

I have noticed on two seperate occassions you have changed Studio 58's category to Culture of Vancouver. As one of the lead participants in the WikiProject Vancouver and as well as the Assistant Production Manager at Studio 58, I request that you stop changing its categories for several reasons. Studio 58 is the theatre arts school part of Langara College, a college of the Association of Canadian Community Colleges. This falls under a government funded educational facility in the City of Vancouver. Other educational facilities such as the Vancouver Film School (acting and technical school), Vancouver Community College (which also has a significant arts program), and Simon Fraser University (includes a large dance school and contemporary theatre arts school) are all listed under the Vancouver category. For all the same reasons it would be in the best interest of the article not to be alienated from its directly equal articles and from our attempts to standardize the methods of organization for all WikiProject Vancouver articles. Thank you. Mkdw^talk 09:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

The need for a category pertaining to Vancouver Education Vancouver Schools is apparent. However, moving articles from one inapropriate category to another will not solve the problem of organizing articles. While culture is an accurate word to describe the developement of the arts through training, the 'Culture of Vancouver', as per Wikipedia Naming Conventions suggests its a title rather than 'Vancouver culture' is not appropriate for educational schools that have an affliation with the arts. I will be creating a new category to address this issue. Mkdw^talk 09:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I have a list of all schools in Vancouver from our WikiProject. I also have discovered several other categories such as Category:High_schools_in_Vancouver. I will be putting up the notice for the categories for Vancouver articles to be reorganized as it is in need of apparent review. Mkdw^talk 09:27, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dear Bearcat,

I've set up a Virtual classroom for Wikipedians to learn, teach, and share advanced wiki-skills. Right now the participants are comparing user interfaces (the tools we use to navigate and work on Wikipedia, including programs, extensions, scripts, settings, etc.). I'm seeking out experienced Wikipedians to share the methods they use to work on Wikipedia, so that others may benefit. I hope you will stop by to share and compare. Interiot, Rich Farmbrough, and CBDunkerson have been kind enough to help get things started by describing the interfaces they use. User:Interiot has even completed a new Firefox extension to make navigating Wikipedia easier. It is available in the announcements section on the Virtual classroom page. I'm really curious what tricks and techniques you use. Hope to see you there. The Transhumanist 11:39, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crispus Attucks

Hi -- I am largely the author of the Imperial Court System article in its present form. I notice that you rv'd some of the categories I assigned the article. Indeed I was over-zealous and under-discerning in this regard -- thanks for appropriately curbing my enthuiasm (I'm kinda new here). Since you are an administrator, would you please do me the favor of helping to keep an eye on the Crispus Attucks article? It seems there are three different users (or puppets) who are vandalizing the page with increasing frequency. Thanks. House of Scandal 11:45, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Vincent Black Shadow

Thank you for your help (and good spell checking) of The Vincent Black Shadow page! Hackajar 05:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Millo Torres

Hi, I saw that you just did some recategorization of Millo Torres. While I'm really glad to see someone else cleaning up some of these categories, in this particular case, I think you made a mistake changing (e.g.) Rock singer to American rock singer, because Millo Torres is Puerto Rican. I realize that's a bit of an edge case, since it's an American protectorate, but it is still an independent commonwealth. Anyway, unless you tell me you disagree, I'm probably going to revert that change. But it's not something I feel very strongly about. Xtifr _tälk 09:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Wow, bold solution, I like it! Thanks :) Xtifr _tälk 09:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Release Lillywhite Recordings Campaign

Hi,

How are you?

I am proposing that the following article: Release Lillywhite Recordings Campaign be deleted. There is no proof that this campaign led to the recording of Busted Stuff, or was acknowledged by the DMB or RCA people. While the campaign was mentioned in Rolling Stone and Entertainment Weekly, I don't think that is grounds enough to have a separate article. Please comment on the Talk page. Thanks. Milchama 17:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suite101.com AfD

An article that you have been involved in editing, Suite101.com, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suite101.com. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --A. B. 23:08, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

(You added a category to the article in August.)

[edit] Rawi Hage

That was an oversight on my part. I was working to populate the category from the underpopulated categories list and made a mistake. Thanks for letting me know.CRKingston 02:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Clayoquot, hoping you're not letting the case get you down, has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

[edit] Sub-Categories

Hello,

You just upgraded my edit of the Daniel Boucher article, and I thank you for doing it. The reason I categorized him as a Canadian musician is that, since the new subcategory lists changed, I don't have access to them. All I get when I click on one is "loading". I notice you are an admin. in Wiki. Do you have any idea when and/or if this will change?

Frustrated.

Michael David 18:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response.

Example: I went to the "Category:Suicides by sharp instrument". When I clicked on the + for additional Categories, all I got is the word "loading" and nothing else. The additional Category should be Category:Seppuku.

Here is what I see:

S

• [+]

When I click of the +

Here is what I get:

S

• [-]

loading

I'm stumped! --- Michael David 23:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

THANK YOU!! I have been struggling with this for a while now. I'm working with a geriatric Mac computer (a long and faithful friend). And, since I'm somewhat computer challenged anyway, I'm at the mercy of gliches like that. My partner, who's away for a short while, has been the computer nerd of this team. Thanks, again.

Be healthy,

Michael David 00:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 51st state

Within the last weeks or so, I have developed a large(r) interest in secession and micronations. Seeing that you've worked on 51st state I was wondering if you'd look at my feeble attempt at something similar. I'm hesitant at just making it a 'real' page because I want to get some opinions on it; I'd like to have yours. The page is found on my user page in bold under "Contributions." Scoutersig 23:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chowbok RfC

I have begun RfC procedures for User:Chowbok. Since you've had a previous with him about image uploads, maybe you'd like to add your commentary? [2] TheQuandry 21:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rachel Marsden

This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.

Per Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided, articles should not link to copies of press reports archived on any site in violation of copyright. Per Wikipedia:Citing sources#Intermediate sources: State where you got it, citations should state the original source (i.e. the LA Times) and the intermediate source (i.e. "as retrieved from LexisNexis on October 16, 2006"). Articles which relate to Rachel Marsden, may, when they violate Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, be reduced to a stub by any user or deleted, together with their talk pages, by any administrator. Bearcat and Bucketsofg are expected to conform to Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons rather than the liberal interpretation they have applied. For violation of his previously imposed article ban, as well as edit warring, block evasion, and sockpuppety, Arthur Ellis is banned from editing Wikipedia for one month.

For the Arbitration Committee, Arbitration Committee Clerk, FloNight 16:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Sorry about that. i was just trying to organize the roads into categories. thanks for your help, though. :) RaccoonFox • Talk • Stalk 02:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
-*blushes* too big of a job? well, perhaps...but i'm enjoying it. so far, it's been far less of a burden than i thought it would be. All i basically do is just look at my 2005 Rand McNally and Mapart atlases, and compare those with Google Earth and Mapquest, then i jot the roads down. if i need help, i'll ask around, though. :) RaccoonFox • Talk • Stalk 02:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Bearcat"

Greetings. Did you get your name from the University of Cincinnati "Bearcat" mascot? Or are you one of the few people to actually know what a bearcat is? Just curious. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 17:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cities

I'm not sure what defines a city either. I think Saskatchewan has a law on the books, and perhaps Newfoundland, but other than that- I have no clue. One interesting note I can give you, is that in Quebec- before amalgamation, some cities in Quebec were officialy cities, rather than villes (cité in French). -- Earl Andrew - talk 02:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

In Alberta it is defined: "to qualify as a city, there must be sufficient population size present with over 10,000 people" AB mun affairs. The other provinces might have similar definitions. --Qyd 05:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Just looking at the 2001 census, only Dorval and Côte-Saint-Luc were designated as cities in Quebec. Both of these places were de-amalgamated, so they could be cities once again. -- Earl Andrew - talk 07:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation to a wikiproject

You have been invited to join in the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canada_Roads, a continuing and evolving categorization database on numbered and named routes in Canada. If you wish to join, simply add your name to the Members/Participants list. If you wish to decline, please let me know. Thanks! RaccoonFox • Talk • Stalk 03:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WABX

Hello Bearcat. I see your point about WABX's (Detroit) reassignment to it's successor call letters. The problem is that nobody interested in an article on the Detroit alternative FM station from the 60's will recognize it by this moniker. WABX was terribly important to the cultural development of Detroit. A reference to the Detroit use of this call sign at the end of the article might not be noticed by a user who thinks she is in the wrong place. I am not that experienced of an editor, but could we use disambiguation and/or redirection to deal with this? No disrespect meant to the great City of Evansville. Let me know what you think. Edivorce 17:59, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pirate Cat Radio

Pirate Cat Radio has been broadcasting for 10 years, we receive letters from the FCC on a weekly basis. The FCC can not ever raid us be cause we are the first station to ever use Title 47 Section 73.3542 of the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations in our defense to broadcast. As far as famous people being involved with the station, the list doesnt end. Jell Biafra, Gavin Newsom, Stan Ridgeway, David Bowie, Lee Ving, Angelo Moore, Exien Cervainca, John Doe, Brian Eno... as if it matters. Pirate Cat Radio is the first and only non-licensed radio station to broadcast simultaneously to two major cities at once. Those cities being Los Angeles and San Francisco. The Stations founder Monkey, has run for major of Hollywood and received over 50% of the pre-election vote. Pirate Cat Radio has inspired other station to come on the air. Pirate Cat Radio is the first non-licensed radio station to start a non-license TV station that runs 24/7. What else do you need to know? We deserve a posting in Wikipedia as much as FRSC does, if not more!

Is Wikipedias censorship worse than the FCC?

Forget it, we don't want to be listed in the Wikipedia. We dont want anything to do with a group of fascist that dont know how to make a clear definition between what can and cant be listed.

[edit] Herbert Trench

Why do you go around and arbitrarily delete information others have worked so hard to post? You did this to a page that I worked for hours on. I checked your history and see that this seems to be your passion; going from page to page making your "corrections" and deletions. You should reconsider what motivates you to do this; your voice isn't the only one worth hearing.

[edit] Rae Report

Any further ideas how to get it out of NPOV? GoldDragon 04:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] White Canadian Deletion Discussion

Thank you, thank you, thank you! You've expressed in your comments about the appropriateness of deleting White Canadian many of the things that I have attempted to - except you've crystallized them extremely well, and taken the time to bring in appropriate examples, making the whole exercise more productive and effective. Cheers! AshleyMorton 13:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I was coming here to comment on same: thank you for your patience and remarkable ability to synthesize some very difficult concepts in an attempt to make them more accessible to, well, other parties in the "debate." --MattShepherd 16:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category lists

Hello,

This is, more or less, a general question regarding categorization in Wiki. This question is not directed at you, but to the Wiki community at large - I just came to you for some input. Why the seeming obsession with the size of category lists? My understanding of the use of categories is to provide a researcher with a complete list of all articles which share a common issue. For example, if I wanted a complete list of all English writers included in Wiki, I should be able to call up such a list. As the powers that be seem to want it, I would have to call up each subcategory, and collate the lists myself. If "Joe Blow" is an English writer, and I enter him only in the 'English novelists' category, he does not appear in the 'English writers' category. Please help me to understand why such a limitation exists in Wiki.

Regards,

Michael David 13:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello, again,

Thank you for making sense out of the category issue for me. It is frustrating, though. My work is in Clinical Psych. The most important work by far is done, of course, when sitting across from a real, live human being. However, long before encountering this person - and during the course of their treatment - a competent clinician will have studied countless case histories of other persons who have experienced similar problems. By identifying and understanding these similarities, the clinician can more confidently make decisions regarding the person’s treatment.

When I came upon Wikipedia early this year I was thrilled. Here were countless biographies (case histories if you will) of persons who, among other things, were categorized according to similar traits and life experiences. I could, for instance, click on the Category “Writers who committed suicide” and have hours of work done for me. Now, as the categories become more diluted, this is becoming more and more unavailable.

I shall persevere – and periodically bitch and moan.

Now that I’ve told you far more than you wanted to know – I’ll thank you for your ear – and stop whining (for now).

Be healthy,

Michael David 23:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Bearcat

Hi, I'm Mumun. Thanks for your categories help at Jeong Ji-hae. I noticed your edits on various Canadian stuff, esp. Saskatchewan things. I live at Yonge and Bloor and I'm an NDPer from Tommy Land. Nice to meet you. Mumun 23:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chiefs of staff

I noticed you made the change on David McLaughlin from politician to civil servant. While I agree with you that "politician" is not the best category for this sort of person, I certainly don't think "civil servant" is. Chiefs of staff are political staffers which are explicitly exempt from the civil service. Is there a third category that would fit? If not, I think this sort of person should be listed in the politician category, though McLaughlin actually fits the civil servant category due to his tenure as a deputy minister. - Jord 20:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Definitely, I had actually found that alternative and was about to make the change but you beat me to it! Thanks! - Jord 20:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yukon politicians

I saw you were recatgorizing the Yukon commissioners. You might have noted that I added the political experience for Jack Cable and Judy Gingell. As they are both former territorial politicians and former commissioners, should they also not be in Category:Yukon politicians? But then the parent of the commissioners' cat is the politician one. What do you propose, if anything? Luigizanasi 21:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Student radio category

Noticed you changed the category to student radio stations on the Campus radio page. I'm not sure whether that's a good move, as (e.g.) here in canada campus-community stations are campus format rather than "student" format. The student thing seems a bit narrow. Is there a reason you think student is better? -- cmh^TC 20:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. I renamed College radio to Campus radio back in march after proposing it at the article's talk page. Not that there was discussion at the time. I still think campus radio is a better choice than student radio. I know that the UK calls it student radio, but I'm not sure that many other countries do. I think campus is more prevalent, although I have not done an exhaustive search.

The advantage of campus radio as a title is that in many instances it is not simply students that are involved. The radio stations are generally associated with the university/college/school and not simply with the student body itself. Many of these stations, especially in Canada, are closer to community stations than student radio. Calling them campus is a neutral term that encompases, students, colleges and other school types.

I did not see any debate on this. As I put some time into proposing renaming and editing the principal article for the category I'm a bit miffed that I didn't get a chance to weigh in on the renaming. I see there is no talk page for the category, where did this discussion take place? I certainly would have appreciated an invitation given my existing comments on Talk:Campus radio on the topic. -- cmh^TC 22:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I think student radio implies learning about radio while campus radio implies radio originating from campus. However, it seems we'll have to agree to disagree on the question of what student and campus radio imply. We are in agreement, however, about not using College radio. We are left with

• an article that I renamed Campus radio from College radio almost a year ago because I felt it was too US centric.
• a category that you renamed Student radio from College radio last week because you felt it was too US centric.

Clearly the article and category should be named the same thing, given that Wikipedia should have some consistency. I would like to see the category changed to campus radio because for some reason I seem to feel strongly about it. :) How do we decide what to do? -- cmh^TC 15:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please use edit summaries

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[edit] Cornwall

Now, I'm not trying to start anything up that is too serious, I just want to bring your attention to a few things:

First of all, the WP:BIO is, quote, "not Wikipedia policy (and indeed the whole concept of notability is contentious)." This statement not only suggests, but notes that this is merely a guideline and therefore may not apply in all circumstances.

Next, Jack McCue, while being a nice guy and all is much more than just a nice guy. He virtually created St. Joseph's Catholic Secondary School. I was a student of St. Joe's only last year when we hosted former Prime Minister Paul Martin. There are reasons why the PM chose our school: 1) reputation (the school is well known, making his vist an easily publicized event. This reputation is one that Mr. McCue worked hard for most of his career to build. 2) Mr. McCue retired that same year. This was also recognition of the service of a great man (educators are government employees).

Finally, a small side note... one of the ways someone can be included as a "notable person" is by the point: A large fan base, fan listing or "cult" following.... Mr. McCue has the support of thousands of people, including current students (the school has an enrollment of approximately 1000 students) former students (the number of alumni are in the approximate range of 2500-3500 students), parents as well as local politicians, lawmakers and policy makers past and present. This certainly qualifies as, at the very least, a cult following.

Tauntobr 02:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

For his contributions to the community, not just his position as a high school principal, on top of what i mentioned in my last note, yes, Mr. McCue does deserve a position in this list. Tauntobr 02:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

It is unfortunate that you do not understand what this project is about. Wikipedia is a way for people to learn about all different things from all over the world. For someone in Singapore, to use your example, to read about a small Canadian city called Cornwall means that they will learn about that city. Jack McCue is an important part of that city, and therefore people from around the world deserve to read about him, even if it may only be his name in a list of notable people.

In a nutshell, Mr. McCue is important in the city of Cornwall, and therefore adds to that city's definition. Therefore people who read about Cornwall should also read about him. Tauntobr 03:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I am not arguing that there are rules, but that is where the argument is mine, my friend. I gave reasons, all in accordance to these rules, why he should be included in this list. You are the one choosing to not acknowlege this. Tauntobr 03:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Let me make myself clear, on top of WP:BIO not being Wikipedia policy, just a guideline, i pointed out that he was recognized by the Prime Minister of Canada and has, by definition a cult following which is included in the guidelines outlined in WP:BIO. Tauntobr 03:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Look at the following links....

• [3]
• [4]
• [5]

Note: I purposefully found a link to an article which does not neccessarily put Mr.McCue in a good light, because on WP:BIO points out that things people have done can be "for better or for worse".

Also, I got these links from Google. I can get more if you like. Tauntobr 03:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

These articles did just that! One is from a government agency, and two are from news agencies. Point being: the man has been recognized... He deserves a spot on the list of notable people from Cornwall! I have provided enough proof to support my argument. If you will not allow it, I will find a neutral third party to mediate the issue. Tauntobr 03:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

That is ok. I respect your argument and propose some time off of this dispute. If you don't mind, I am going to put this dispute on the Third Party dispute resolution page and hopefully someone will provide some assistance. Also, if you don't mind, please post your argument on the Cornwall talk page. Arguments can be made there, where everybody can see them and contribute to them. If someone does provide an opinion, I will abide by the desicion made therein. I ask that you do the same. Tauntobr 03:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)