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[edit] • talk:pantheism

I don't know where you get off, but the sort of BS your sprouting on this talk page is in defiance of both reason, and ettiquette. I respectfully ask you to be respectful. Good day sir. Sam Spade 01:43, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I'm very sorry if you are offended, but I stand my statements. I certainly did not mean to offend, but I can understand why you might feel I was making insinuations, as I was explicit in my suggestion that I was making no insinuations whatsoever. Please accept my apologies, and I sincerely hope that if others respond to what I write or edit the article you will not take umbrage against them due to my most heartfelt opinions about the need to rewrite the article.

With apologies and thanks, BCorr ¤ Брайен 01:49, Mar 1, 2004 (UTC)

I can't imagine what you think I might not understand. I have not only reviewed the links (on talk:pantheism), I edited them. I am deeply disatisfied with your statements, and find them offensive in the extreme. Please give me some reason to think you have some comprehension of this subject, and these particulars, and stop using my surname. I changed my name for a reason. Sam Spade 03:12, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

If you don't want people to know your other account you shouldn't have the old page redirect to the new one. That's all for now. BCorr ¤ Брайен 03:15, Mar 1, 2004 (UTC)

I can't help it if people "know" my name, and I didn't decide to have the one link to the other, that was done by tim starling when he changed my name. What I can do is tell you DO NOT USE MY SURNAME, IT IS A PERSONAL ATTACK review Wikipedia:Remove personal attacks. I clearly find it unsafe to have my surname displayed on this site, and I find your usage of it a danger to myself. Sam Spade 03:18, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Jack Lynch is changing your comments on Talk:Pantheism. RickK 03:32, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Rick -- I know -- he's following me now I think -- he just voted here

Paranoia, take a look at the page history for requests for admins, and see how many edits I have made there. Its on my watchlist. I saw voting and so I voted. Why are you so agressive in trying to be against me? What did I do to upset you? Sam Spade 04:22, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I truly bear you no ill will and I'm sorry that you feel that way. I've simply become bored. I wish you the best. Cheers. BCorr ¤ Брайен 04:43, Mar 1, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Dubna

It really seems to me that the articles about Berkeley and Dubna should not mention JINR/LBNL controversy. This is not a part of the city history. It would be more natural to mention the controversy in the articles about JINR and LBNL.

128.148.60.58 3 Mar 2004

[edit] • Deletion?

Regarding the alleged deletion of information in the Town of Gaines in Orleans County, NY: I posted the information and did not delete it. Also the information is accurate as far as I know. Tmesipt. 3.4.04.

[edit] ? Better

I feel better today :-) ant

[edit] • The batsman's out

I'm sorry mate, i just feel burntout cause of all the crap from vandals and kooks like Verginia and Lance/Hector/Richard and have decided to declare my innings closed as a result. PMA

[edit] • Warnings

I note you sent me a friendly warning but said nothing to the instigators of this dispute. What's that about? I'm the one who has stepped back from the editing to avoid an edit war, but I get the blame? I'm the one who has tried to resolve the issue and sought compromise, but I get attacked. This is rather ridiculous, BCorr. Everyking 23:01, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi Everyking -- I'm sorry that it sounded like I was trying to give you a warning -- that was not my intent. I was only responding to your message on the Talk:Vladimir Zerjavic: Interesting for you to note that, BCorr, because I actually declared my intention to quit editing this article a few days ago, except for minor edits and cosmetic changes. I did that for the explicit purpose of not getting into an edit war. But as you can see, I am still having to defend myself against insults here on the talk page. Maybe I should just quit responding? Everyking 22:27, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)
And I intended my message on your talk page to sound friendly: I do think a break would help. It'll still be there in a day or two ;-) -- Thanks, BCorr ¤ Брайен 22:30, Mar 4, 2004 (UTC)
Perhaps it sounded different out of context -- I just wasn't sure how other people editing that article might respond to a note that said "yes, it might help if you did," so I left it at your talk page.
I'll crosspost this message at your page too, and I'm sorry to have sounded like I was picking on you. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 00:14, Mar 5, 2004 (UTC)
All a misunderstanding, then. I apologize for reacting so strongly. You can imagine that I was rather offended at the thought that I was being singled out when I was the one who had recused himself from any further editing. Everyking 00:25, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
No problem -- I appreciate your telling me so we could clarify! Cheers, BCorr ¤ Брайен 00:27, Mar 5, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Wording of Haiti article

Thanks for the copyedit. I keep forgetting that black is African-American in PC language. I live in a Caribbean-American neighborhood, and the blacks here don't identify with their African roots centuries back any more than I would call my self "European-American" or "Russian-American" simply because half my ancestors came from Poland and Russia to America 150 years ago... --Uncle Ed 14:36, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks :) It's a challenge navigating the Scylla of PC flotsam and Charybdis of libertarian jetsam. And so your taking a busman's holiday I see.... -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 16:25, Mar 5, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Wikipedia:Requests for adminship

You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. Jack Lynch has been nominated for adminship. RickK 02:58, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Gone by the time I got over there...Perl & Kingturtle, eh? -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 03:29, Mar 8, 2004 (UTC)
Yeah, but Eloquence decided unilaterally to delete him. Now Sam's saying he never wanted to be one anyway. RickK 03:49, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Dagestan

Hi there. Perhaps you can help me with something. One of my coworkers on the Dagestan article says that the Cyrillic name above the Infobox had a Chechen spelling, not Russian. I checked and discovered that you originally added it. Do you remember where you got your spelling, and is it possible or likely that he's correct? Isomorphic 03:56, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hmm...you mean this old thing:
Дагестанская Республика Российской Федерации
(Dagestanskaja Respublika Rossijskoj Federatsii)
This is certainly Russian, but I did write it myself -- I'm not sure what the other person meant by a Chechen spelling. I checked the Russian Wikipedia and that's where I got both the transliteration and the spelling of Dagestan -- see the article on Russian Federation: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F (Россия)-- the fourth paragraph has a list of all the constituent republics of the Russian Federation, with Dagestan as Дагестан.
Меня хочется что я вам пому -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 04:21, Mar 8, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks, yes, that's what I was interested in, although it merely adds to my confusion. The editor who was saying this is someone who, although I don't know him that well, I generally trust. He and I have written most of the Dagestan article together. And yet, I don't understand how this could be "Chechen" if we got it from the Russian Wikipedia. Anyway, thank you again for your time. If Daniel makes a change later, I may ask for your review (since I'm assuming you know more about Russian than I do.) Isomorphic 04:57, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Actually, he's posted something now to Talk:Dagestan. There are definitely some differences between what he's proposing and what you had entered, but unfortunately I have no knowledge, just interest. If you do, take a look. Isomorphic 05:02, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'm going over to the talk page now... BCorr ¤ Брайен 05:07, Mar 8, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Dagestan revisited

Yes, I was talking about the TRANSLITERATION, not the Cyrillic.

-Daniel Nagy

Hi, this is in response to your edit in Dagestan.

I wasn't talking about the Cyrillic. I was talking about the transliteration, which doesn NOT seem Russian.

On the Chechnya page it says:

Chechenskaya Respublika Rossijskoj Federatsii

The Rossijskoj Federatsii part does NOT seem Russian AT ALL. I wasn't talking about the Cyrillic. I was talking about the transliteration.

Rossijskaja Federatsija is the nominative case for "Russian Federation". Rossijskoj Federatsii is the genitive case -- it means "of the Russian Federation". Another example: Sovetskij Sojuz is "Soviet Union" but Sojuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheckikh Respublik is "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics".
Respublika is "republic"; republiki is "republics"; and respublik is "of the republics". -- Thanks, BCorr ¤ Брайен 06:26, Mar 8, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Halifax

That explains a lot (your note re: Ed Poor's vandal). Could you add the same text to Wikipedia:Requests for de-adminship? Thanks - Texture 16:51, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Done -- thanks for the heads-up. BCorr ¤ Брайен 16:56, Mar 8, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Thanks

I just couldn't tell....I'm always a little hesitant to hit delete because I worry about the limits of my knowledge. :) I'll consider now how to write a good article under that name, or if one is possible/necessary. Have a good day, and happy editing, Jwrosenzweig 20:54, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Peace Page edits

Brian,

Just curious--a couple of us from PeacefulFuture have tried to add a link to our wiki on the Peace page but you've deleted it. We have tremendous respect for Wikipedians so we're sure you've got a great reason, and the last thing we want to do is cross lines, create ill wiki will, or tread where we're not wanted ... so I'm wondering if you can just explain why our link is inappropriate there, especially considering Peace Action's link. Thanks!

(btw, I'm playing around with code here, editing the talk page, trying to make my comment work with your table of contents... apologize if I'm messing something up. EDIT: looks like i figured it out; nevermind.)

Matt

Hi Matt -- thanks for the message -- I appreciate it.
It has seemed to me that you're just trying to start off a new wiki about peace -- extremely admirable -- and that most of our external linksof that sort are more specifically resources with more information about the issue. IMHO, Peace Action (an old and established group with lots of resources -- fact sheets, legislative info, etc.) is different from your wiki. Also, when I went to look at it before there were only a handful of pages -- today there are about 25 -- so that it's less of a resource for Wikipedia users, and instead more of a way to drive traffic to your site.
Again, I totally understand that and I think it's a cool project -- that article just isn't the place to list it. See Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for more info.
To test the waters here, I'd suggest creating a new article PeacefulFuture.net and seeing how that goes -- the wiki process will either help you craft an article that fits our guidelines, or editors may tell you it's too soon to be here. Also, see Memory Alpha for a possible template.
You might also try listing it at http://www.c2.com, http://www.dmoz.org, http://www.c2.com, http://www.everything2.com and of course the Yahoo! directory. Also, you could start lists at http://www.yahoogroups.com and http://www.topica.com and list them in their directories as a way to get interested folks to your site. And don't neglect the links that you'll find at Wiki#Wiki_communities.
I hope that this helps!
Thanks again, BCorr ¤ Брайен 23:38, Mar 8, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Hmmm

Bcorr, I tried to revert what I thought was vandalism but your TOC still doesn't work. I hope I didn't cause any harm. - Texture 04:19, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

No fear --- I like it this way. It makes it easy to spot new messages from the TOC, and part of my routine is that when I get new messages, I fix the header when I reply. BCorr ¤ Брайен 04:22, Mar 9, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Congressional Biography

Hi! Thanks for the tip; in fact, that's exactly what I was doing. :) I just wanted to get the stubs in place before I fleshed them out... -- Seth Ilys 03:08, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

No problem -- I had a suspicion that you might have known already :) -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 03:10, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Björk redirects

Hi, Bcorr. Yeah, they probably are a bit excessive, and thanks for the advice, but could you tell me more about why some redirects get deleted? They take a small amount of space on the server certainly, but I would think that the possibility of them being helpful to people looking for information would outweigh that. Of course, I could understand totally unrelated or very unusually titled redirs. getting deleted, but I would call the ones I made to Björk transliterations that you could expect to see among English-speakers. But, I don't know how tight for space the servers are. Looking forward to your thoughts, Djinn112 03:35, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)

Hi Djinn -- thanks for your note. It's not an evil thing, and it doesn't take up too much room, but there should be a pretty good likelihood that someone would search for a variaation. "Lyndon Baines Johnson" for "Lyndon Johnson" seems pretty likely; and even Bjork, Bjoerk, and Björk make a lot of sense, but IMHO matching each of those with each of Guthmundsdottir, Gudhmundsdottir, Gudmundsdottir, Guðmundsdottir, Guthmundsdóttir, Gudhmundsdóttir, Gudmundsdóttir and Guðmundsdóttir is excessive. It seems like very few people are going to look up a uncommon transliterations of edh as possible variations on her surname, and Icelandic is a small enough language community that no one who speaks it would have any question about how to spell it. And almost any English speaker will probably just stick with Bjork.
I guess ultimately I'd just say that people will feel like you're not serious about Wikipedia and will be less likely to assume good faith. And since we're all volunteers here, people make decisions based on their best guess about people's intentions and seriousness (i.e. is this edit for real?) about what they do.
In case you haven't seen it, visit Wikipedia:Redirect. It doesn't give any hard and fast rules, but I may be helpful. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 03:57, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for the Wikipedia:Redirect link; I hadn't seen that page before, and thanks for replying. -- Djinn112 04:25, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • What is your problem?

[1] Don't be such an asshole. Sam Spade 04:41, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Starting and writing aren't the same thing. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 04:49, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)
Thats your opinion. Deleting my info on a unrelated page w no discussion was bizarre and intentionally persecutory. Piss off and do some real editing. This is supposed to be a encyclopedia, not a wiki-play ground for you to be rowdy in. Sam Spade 05:48, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Possible MediaWiki bug?

I have only been on Wikipedia for a week or two, and I am not an HTML expert, so I don't feel I know how to research or report this problem. From what I've seen, you seem to be more knowledgable, at least RE WP. The article for Citric Acid has a problem rendering its table. The closing table tag gets rendered with & lt; and & gt;, making it visible, instead of closing the table. The opening paragraph ends up formatted as part of the table using some browsers. The HTML looks OK per my reference material, and the person that added the table commented that he was also unable to find a problem with the HTML.

I was hoping you could research this problem (whether it is bad HTML, or a MediaWiki bug), and/or report it to appropriate people, and/or tell me how to report it appropriately. Niteowlneils 14:43, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi Niteowlneils -- seems like you figured it out without my help -- let me know if you still need me. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 15:26, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)
Not really. I removed the closing table tag so it wouldn't display, but the text, at least using MS-IE, is formatted incorrectly. And omitting the closing table tag is bad HTML.
May look correct (I suspect the intention is actually to have the first paragraph formatted to the left, like the rest of the article): http://ginger-or-mary-ann.com/CitricAdicMozilla.jpg
Doesn't look correct: http://ginger-or-mary-ann.com/CitricAcidIE.jpg
While we're at it, according to the w3.org HTML validator, the MediaWiki TOC code seems to generate incorrect HTML.
Hmmm... I'm a Mozilla user, so it looked fine :-) I'm not an authority on tables, but I have 2 suggestions: 1) Check out how a similar article is formatted, for example Sodium; and 2) If that doesn't help, post a question to the Wikipedia:Village pump-- in fact I probably should have said that the last time.
Hope this helps. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 22:39, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Chuis très fatigué...

Are you well Brian ? I saw you had a busy time a few hours ago :-) ant

Oui, mais je suis très fatigué... -- BCorr ¤ Брайен

[edit] • Hostility

Hi, you seem to have precipitated some hostility by editing the Association of Members' Advocates page. While I get the distinction you were making with your edit, it's worth noting that under the organization of that page, each advocate is in a sense making a personal statement there. So the effect was kind of like rewriting the brag sheet on someone's user page, and I can see why it might have provoked him. Personally, I didn't think his claims of "authorship" were doing much harm, they just looked a little foolish more than anything else. For what it's worth, I'm well aware of Sam's reputation, but I have found him much more pleasant to deal with when you communicate with him before doing things. --Michael Snow 23:01, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi Michael -- I agree with you and I appreciate the advice. Thanks, BCorr ¤ Брайен 23:15, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)
As you say, the response was really inappropriate, and your restraint is commendable. After Anthere reverted back to your edit, Sam blanked his statement, which may be a better solution. I'm considering whether we should just remove personal statements from the AMA page, since they are potentially problematic anyway. --Michael Snow 23:28, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Perhaps so, since it's already a self-selected group. Probably it's enough for people to look at the user's page. Maybe a even little template for what people should say about themselves -- although I'm not sure what it would include exactly... Just my $0.02. Thanks again, BCorr ¤ Брайен 23:33, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)


[edit] • good eye

now havn't you got a bridge you should be lurking under? Sam Spade 15:04, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your humorous comment -- and I'm glad we're getting back on an even keel with each other. BCorr ¤ Брайен 15:41, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
I am aware of my contact information. If you read this or my explanation for requesting the name change here, you will see that I was over-reacting when I suggested "personal endangerment", yet I am clearly offended by usage of my surname, particularly when intentional. I'm not really sure on where your going with all of this, but maybe you have decided that its not fun harassing me about it anymore? If so, great. Sam Spade 16:40, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • D'oh!

FYI, User:Gaz has been on Wikipedia since January 2003, not 2004. Fuzheado 17:07, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up -- I've struck out the negative vote. BCorr ¤ Брайен 17:31, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Still thinking...

Hi Bcorr, just letting you know I have seen your note on my Talk: page, & yes, I have read your suggestions on the Mediation Board several times. I'm still trying to think of something worthwhile to say in response. In any case, the Mediation Committee definitely needs some changes if it is to be effective. -- llywrch 00:47, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the note -- I appreciate it. And BTW, you may want to visit Mediation Committee and weigh in there if you feel it's appropriate. I've become the subject of some controversy.... Thanks, BCorr ¤ Брайен 00:57, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Hi, there

I have just noticed the following comment "today."

I just haven't seen your edits for a while...and wanted to say hello -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 01:11, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I was on vacation at my home. As you see, I am working again now. I would be absent again during the summer I guess. Anyway, just come here to say hi :) -- Taku 02:02, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks -- and glad you're back with us -- see you 'round the wiki! -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 02:10, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Mustang Lucky 6.9

Hi!

Sorry about the mix-up regarding the metric conversions in the Ford Mustang article. I inadvertently made some changes to an older version of the text and was in the process of changing it back when I received your message.

Regards,

"Lucky 6.9"

Thanks for your reply -- I appreciate it -- and sorry if I made your work harder. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 13:19, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Saudi Arabia

Yes, I missed it. Thanks. There is probably some unofficial prisoner beating, but it is against policy. Likewise, there is still (rare) capital punishment for crimes like rape/murder - but certainly not frequently. Whether beheading is more or less humane than lethal injection is a judgement call. Certainly it is quicker! Anjouli 13:32, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Lir and mediation

Ami Brian. Quand tu reviendras de week-end, je crois que Lir a besoin d'aide. Comme tu t'étais proposé, je me suis permise de lui suggérer ton nom. Elle demande donc ton aide à [2]. Tu peux faire quelque chose pour elle ? Merci et à plus :-) FirmLittleFluffyThing 15:08, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Merci de ton aide

You beat me to the revert on Wikipedia:State your point don't prove it. Given the timing, the nature of the edits, and comments on the talk page afterwards, I'm wondering if JRR Trollkien could be a sock puppet of Anthony DiPierro. Any thoughts? --Michael Snow 00:39, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

He is almost certainly EoT. Sam Spade 00:45, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
De rien, Michael. And I agree with Sam Spade -- I think it's another incarnation of User:142.177.etc.... -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 00:54, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)
Pretty much anything w troll in the name is that guy, it would seem. I sometimes get the impression that there are only 2 or 3 total trolls on the wiki, and that they generate an amazing amount of distress and chaos considering. Oh how they must laugh... Sam Spade 00:58, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Thank you both, I know only a little about EoT and the various troll-name incarnations. I thought it was at least conceivable that Anthony might choose such a name too, but he denies it. And may I say that I'm very pleased to see you two agreeing about something. --Michael Snow 01:05, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Umm. Sam? How well do you know Eot? Wasn't he a bit before your time? -- Cimon avaro 01:12, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)
Hmmm... apparently you are dismayed by my ability to read? Odd, that. Sounds like an argument from lack of imagination to me. I've already been checked to see if I was a banned user, and I'm not. Go ask Tim Starling about it. Maybe if you didn't behave as you do towards me you might understand me better. Sam Spade 01:23, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Wow, I didn't realize so many people were watching my talk page ;-) BCorr ¤ Брайен 13:31, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)
Nothing personal, I set my preferences so that I watch any page I've ever edited. :) Sam Spade 16:25, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Mediation

I thought I responded somewhere. So what now? Lirath Q. Pynnor

I'm sorry if I missed a response. I'm leaving a longer message on your talk page. BCorr ¤ Брайен 17:34, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)

I really don't care how we proceed; however, its probably not going to be feasible to be online at the same time and use irc. Lirath Q. Pynnor

[edit] • the Nonsense

Heh, don't leave me! The nonsense edits are coming in thick and fast at the moment. I'm trying to look back over the last couple of hours at the same time, as there seem to be quite a few vandal edits that no one caught.  :) fabiform | talk 17:17, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • RfA update

Please check Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship#Hcheney so you can make an informed decision on my Request for Adminship --Hcheney 17:37, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Edit summary prefill poll

Hiya. You might be interested in m:Edit summary prefill poll (2). :) — Timwi 07:19, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Troll redirects

I believe the redirects were deleted so that it's easier to get to the user contributions of each reincarnation of the user. I think we all know who it is... -- Graham :) | Talk 02:24, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Yeah the original user redirected them to User:Troll and we've deleted the redirection both times. It's no problem anyways because both id's have been blocked indefinitely. -- Graham :) | Talk 02:29, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Thanks again -- and I've reverted my edit. :-) BCorr|Брайен 02:30, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • c0mm3ntx0rz

OMG BCORR you are inFRINGING on our FReedom of speech! YOU mAY NOT remove COMMENts on talk pages, see Wikipedia_talk:Remove personal attacks! :-) ugen64 02:37, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Mediation

Both Kingturtle and I are comfortable with you mediating our conflict would you be interested? If so leave me a message on my talk page (I won't respond for a few hours its nap time). GrazingshipIV 06:28, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)

Hi Grazingship -- I would be happy to work with you two. I will be out of town for the day, but will be back late evening (~13 hrs from now), and will be in touch then. Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 12:53, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)

Yes I find your stated method as acceptable. Please inform me when you return so we can begin mediation. GrazingshipIV 16:16, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Removal of images

I notice that you've removed Image:Joneszeta04.jpg from Catherine Zeta-Jones, but put in no corresponding comment at the image page. Once the link to an image has been removed from an article its very difficult to find out who the uploader of the image was and whom to contact (unless the uploader had edited the image page). Jay 08:18, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Sorry about that -- please see Special:Contributions/Qg. Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 12:53, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Possible edit war alert

See Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion. --Michael Snow 01:15, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • GrazingshipIV vs.TheBam

I regret to inform you that during our mediation a sockpuppet has been created to discredit me (possibly with the help) of the person I am mediating with user:thebam is making false claims about some sort of plot and my involvement in creating some sort of sockpuppet I have listed this user on vandalism in progress but would hope for your intervention as this user has made little to no contribution to wikipedia. thanks GrazingshipIV 13:10, Mar 28, 2004 (UTC)

Kingturtle has been instructed on how to post a message. It is up to him to do it now. GrazingshipIV 22:25, Mar 28, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Wikipedia:Current polls

I'm not sure I understand the reasons behind your reformatting.

I liked the chronological order better. That way one could with a quick glance see if anything had changed since last visit.
--Ruhrjung 14:13, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi Ruhrjung -- I proposed the change primarily because of the difficulty I was having keeping track of the polls, since I usually don't check them more than once a week or so. Here's what I proposed on the talk page:
Somehow I missed the "section edit autofill of edit summary" poll over the last 3(?) days. And, I just discovered the new feature and I don't think I really like it -- I'm not sure how useful the info is as an edit summary. However, I'm not arguing that we revisit the decision. I usually check the polls every couple of days, but I guess I missed a day over the weekend.
But here are my suggestions:
  • First, if we have guidelines about how long polls should last I have missed them, but 3 days for a change that affects so many users seems short -- especially as some of us don't check the current polls every day. If there is a policy, can we post those on Wikipedia:Current polls, and if not, let's create some and post them there.
  • Second, I think it would help to have the date/time that the poll closes listed between the link to the poll and the description of the poll.
  • Third, I think it would be easier to follow if we divided the rather lengthy list of polls into sections -- perhaps "Administrative," "Software," "Policies," "Preferences," etc.
So what do people think?
BCorr¤Брайен 23:02, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. Somebody with more time than me should format the existing entries (adding ? where the info - such as start and end times - is not known). --mav 05:24, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
OK -- I've added sections and put into old polls anything thats been inactive for a month or more but isn't "officially" closed. I'll pledge to stop in weekly and move inactive polls down, but I hope that people who close polls will come back here and check on them. Please add new polls under the relevant subheading, and note the starting date of the poll and the date the poll will be closed, if applicable.
Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 23:47, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] • Mediation update?

oi, if you would I am waiting for your "a way forward" comment on the mediation page. thanks. GrazingshipIV 00:56, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)

Hey there GS4 (may I call you that? less chance for typos...) -- I'm sorry to keep you waiting. First, I haven't had any brilliant insights (which I've been hoping for) and second, I've spent most of my Wikitime over the last day on another mediation I'm involved in. However, I appreciate your gentle reminder, and will come up with something (hopefully useful) before I lay me down to sleep. Thanks for your patience. BCorr|Брайен 01:09, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)
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