Talk:Bay Miwok

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The Karkin absolutely spoke an Ohlonean language, not a Miwok language. Arroyo de la Cuesta got a vocabulary in the late 1700's.

See the following: Beeler, M., 1961, Northern Costanoan, International Journal of American Linguistics, 27: 191-197. Callaghan, Catherine, 1988. Karkin Revisited. IJAL 54: 436-452. Levy, Richard. 1978. Costanoan. Handbook of North American Indians, Vol. 8: California. 485-495. Levy, Richard. 1978. Eastern Miwok. Handbook of North American Indians, Vol. 8: California. 398-413.

--Anonymous, 9/20/06

Karkin has moved to "Ohlone" as a tribe I am glad sources exist to clarify their cultural backgroud. No need to be anonymous these look like good sources thanks for the help. Goldenrowley 16:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

The correct publication date for Kroeber's Handbook is 1925. A "References" entry should cite a book or article, not a specific page. On the other hand, in the Notes entry, a direct quotation requires specification of the page it comes from. RhymeNotStutter 22:49, 7 November 2006 (UTC) -->It appears you are very right on the year of publication and the online link is probably just labelled the year incorrectly. I'll fix all refs. Kroeber, Alfred Louis. - Handbook of the Indians of California / by A.L. Kroeber. - Washington: Smithsonian Institution Bureau of American Ethnology, 1925. - XVIII, 995 p.: ill.; 24 cm. - (Bulletin / Smithsonian Institution, Bureau of American Ethnology; 78) Goldenrowley 00:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)