Talk:Battle of Kircholm

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[edit] The winged hussars

The article says that the Winged Hussars consisted "mostly of historical Grand Duchy of Lithuania armed forces and mercenaries". It might be good to have some reference confirming that. I'm not saying that this is not true, just may be not widely known outside Lithuania. --Lysy^talk 16:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

This section probably needs rewording - not all Winged Husars were form GDl, only those fighting in Kircholm. And of course, there were no mercenearies amongst them. Note that swedish generl is also talking abuot Lithuanians i.e.litwins (this cn be found in the linked pdf - it is clearly about GDL).

AFAIK about this battle, Chodkewicz went into deep trouble as Crown refused to rise funds to finnance army, so he used his own funds and leftowers of Grand Duchy funds. It was desperate move although succesfull. And no, it's not original research:)

I'll provide citation as soon I'll get home to my library.--Lokyz 08:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Also in contemporary work of Laurentius Boyer "Carolomachia" (altogh proclaimed author is Zawisza Christophorus) (1606). In describtio of the battle is a mention, that charging cavalry were shouting "mušk!"--Lokyz 12:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Since both the Crown and GDL had their own armies and hetmans, and Chodkiewicz was a GDL hetman, it is not suprising that much of his forces would be Lithuanian. What is 'mušk'? And are you sure it is not the translation of some other term?-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  13:30, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Mušk! is something like byj or kill. The word is mentioned in the book and tehre is also explanation that muškieta is derivative from that word. Sorry - I haven't read the Carolomachia, it's an interpretation from Bumblauskas book.--Lokyz 20:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)