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Batsman is also a servant in the military IIRC. Elde 05:32, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

That's "batman" according to the dictionary --Bob Palin 05:02, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)

1 Intro
2 Picture
3 Notable Batsmen
4 Batting Skills
5 Bowling Skills
6 Batsman (cricket)

[edit] Intro

"A batsman's batting average or strike rate are the accepted measures of his ability." I'm not happy about this statement at all. Firstly it implies that average and strike rate are the same thing or at least in some way linked or eqivalent. Secondly a batsman's strike rate is rarely of any importance outside of limited overs cricket and even there its hardly an accepted measure of a batsman's ability. Many of the game's most prolific batsmen would be classed as accumulators of runs rather than free scorers and none the worse is thought of them because of this. Strike rate is however somewhat more significant for a bowler but this is a different strike rate entirely. --LiamE 00:16, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I agree somewhat. I've edited to reflect this. -dmmaus 23:59, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Can we have a better picture of a batsman? The current one looks like a batting bunny.

I think the picture's OK. His head is nicely over the ball, he's hit the ball square and downwards, and the bat's going through in a nice arc. The setting is attractively rural as befits the spirit of the game. --RobertG 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I disagree. He has cearly missed/mishit the ball as you can see the ball at the bottom right corner of the pic past the wicket and going towards the wicketkeeper. His followthrough is awkward and indicates that he has botched up while trying to chop down at a low bouncing ball (possibly a spinner). I don't see any "nice arc" there, rather a snapshot of an awkward, off-balance followthrough of a chopping action with the behind of the bat facing the viewer at a weird angle. All I am saying is that there could be a better looking shot than that snap. Nothing major.

I disagree too. It just looks awkward. I can't imagine a David Gower or Carl Hooper ever getting snapped in a position like that. --LiamE 23:02, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Batsmen

Does Kapil Dev really warrant a mention as a notable batsman? While undoubtly a clean striker of the ball and one of the game's great all-rounders, where he is of course correctly honoured, I can't justify him being listed here. --LiamE 23:02, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

No one has come to Kapil's defence in 2 weeks so I will remove him. --LiamE 23:51, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

On a similar note does Chris Cairns, great all-rounder that he was, really deserve a mention? Vladhilavic

Chris Cairns has scored more 6's in Test's than anyone else. Thats notable in itself. Also the New Zealand line up is not up to the standard of others. I'm inclined to re-include him. Its not like there's 100 Kiwis listed. --LiamE 09:50, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I take your point, how about including Scott Styris if your looking to expand the section? Vladhilavic

[edit] Batting Skills

Batting is not just about scoring runs. It also needs some skills like watching the ball carefully and then manouver it around the field. Batsmen like Shahid Afridi are just useless players who just doesnt know anything but slogging at the ball. He wont stop slogging no matter what. Even if his team needs him to stay at the crease. But batsman like Virender Sehwag is what a team needs. A person who can stay at the crease for a lot of tme and also score runs at a blaze. His stats in both one-dayers and tests prove it.

[edit] Bowling Skills

Seriously speaking, bowling is much more difficult than batting, and much more exhausting. It requires stamina and patience. Its not a fun thing in international cricket. Brett Lee is a wonderful bowler who not only has the stamina, but the determination and attitude to get wickets in a eye blink.