Talk:Batman in popular media

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Contents 1 Re-think the article 2 General 3 Rorschach and Spawn 4 Other questionable entries 4.1 Homestar 5 Graphic Novels 6 Merger of Animated Series Batman 7 Animated Series Batman (character) sandbox 8 Batman Fights Dracula

[edit] Re-think the article

I think this article needs a major overhaul. There's too much unnecessary information (stuff best left to individual articles) and a generally sloppy feeling all around. Perhaps it should be re-worked in line with the much more concise Superman in popular culture.Rhindle The Red 16:31, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] General

Placed some video info appropriately in the TV section, from the Movies section, and added some info about the animated series.

It seems like there really should be a DVD section here... maybe I'll start one in the sandbox, with the animated series DVDs, and people can fill in the rest? (Unsigned by User:Simnel 13:20, 9 December 2005

Simnel, forget the sandbox, just get to it! Dyslexic agnostic 20:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rorschach and Spawn

Removed this text:

• Rorschach from Watchmen is somewhat similar to Batman in the fact that he is a masked vigilante that takes a violent, radical approach to justice and the law. He is based on the Question, a charater found in DC Comics. Like the Question, Rorscach is much more unstable and even deranged than Batman.

Obviously if Rorschach is based on the Question he doesn't belong here. I seem to remember Moore saying he was derived from Batman though.

Also, someone mentions Spawn, and gives a McFarlane quote. I don't see the similarity AT ALL. Does anyone have a reference for this? Simnel 19:03, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

The Rorshach article says he's derived from the question; good enough for me. Simnel 19:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Also removing Spawn as a Batman derivative. If someone re-inserts it, please just give a reference. Simnel 09:34, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Other questionable entries

Um... another good question would be why in God's name Strongbad's No Loafing sign is a Batman reference?

I really don't know why Kevin Conroy wasn't mentioned so I added him. Some consider him to be the definitive voice of Batman. I wanted to include that sentiment and his name. I suggest someone add a picture as well.

Spongebob too... X Man and Y Boy is NOT a Batman reference, it's a general comics reference. Similarly, Blue Falcon and Dynomutt... I don't know. Knight Watchman? CLEARLY a Batman riff. But Blue Falcon? What makes him like Batman SPECIFICALLY, rather than just following a bunch of comic book conventions? Same goes for Radioactive Man... who based on his origin, costume, superpowers, etc, is clearly NOT based on Batman. Simnel 17:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Also, it's strange how many of the entries in 'Batman in other media' refer to comic books :-) Simnel 17:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Homestar

In a day or so, if someone doesn't source -- or at least provide a rationale -- for the Homestar reference, I'm gonna chop it. Simnel 23:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I say go for it! Dyslexic agnostic 01:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Graphic Novels

Okay, Dyslexic... if "The Complete Frank Miller Batman", for instance, a three hundred page hardcover, isn't a book, what is it? And if for some reason I don't understand you DON'T consider it a book, why not start a separate graphic novels section? Just as importantly, considering the mess that's going on on the main Batman page, why not at least be polite while you're making your changes? Simnel 18:38, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merger of Animated Series Batman

See Talk:Animated Series Batman for more info... that article is essentially fancraft and can be substantially reduced and included here. In any event much of it duplicates existing info found on pages for specific TV shows like Batman: The Animated Series and Justice League Unlimited and there is no need for a separate page. Merge. Dyslexic agnostic 06:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC).

I asked for some time before voting. It's not a finished projets. Wath bothers me the most is that, I'd already came to an agreement about getting some time to finish the project. I consider this proposal a personal attack and question (not deny) the good faith of the editor who put the merging tag. I consider his actions harassment (he reverts whatever I do without asking, move pages, erase info that later other people add again, etc).

I'm taking of the tag. I'm not against a future merge, but I need some time to shape the info, and discuss with other users wich page to merge the info with. I'm taking the liberty specially since DA's proposal has yet failed to raise interest of other editors. I ask, with all respect to give me and the enthusiast of this little project until June 25 to finish with the info. I'll ask help to the finest editors I know so far and promess to do my best. --T-man, the wise 01:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

WesleyDodds, thanks for re-adding the merge tag... I was going to do it myself. Obviously edits can be made while the tag is up, but people should be made aware of the issue. Dyslexic agnostic 05:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Merge - Unnecessarily overflowing, it has an in-world POV, and it's redundant in light of several other articles that either already have the information or would be a more appropriate place for it. --Chris Griswold 06:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Animated Series Batman (character) sandbox

Batman: The Animated Series/Animated Series Batman (character)

During the creation of of that "late" article I always stated that it was a draft or unproject. It took weeks until Bennon cleverly figured out what I was trying to do was a sandbox (which I didn't know how to do until now). Now everyone can edit it with no time pressure and talk about what to do with the info when i's finally finished. I coul'd have created the sandbox in my own talk page, but I don't want anyone to assume I "OWN" the project. Feel free to erase, add and source stuff to improve it.--T-man, the wise 22:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Batman Fights Dracula

I can't confirm whether Batman Fights Dracula was a fan film or what. I can't even find a source to confirm that it was unauthorized. Although that seems probable, "probable" doesn't cut it with Wikipedia. Doczilla 09:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)