User talk:Basique/Archive 2

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[edit] Images

I've just removed all the Who's Who images I contributed, as they are apparently against Wikiproject Comics fair use guidelines. If you have any questions about these actions, please direct them towards the project's talk page. --Basique 22:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kudos

Dude. Just want to say, from your comments on the WikiProject:Comics page, that you are quicklly becoming a knowledgable editor well-versed in Wikipedia conventions and policy guidelines. Wish more comics editors would take these things as seriously as you! Keep up the good work -- Tenebrae 18:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks guy, for a second there when I signed in and saw new messages I thought uh-oh who have I pissed off now. : ) --Basique 21:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John M. Faucette

Just noticed this article is just a cut and paste from this site. I'm going to look around and see if I can find some more info on the gentleman. Also, the quote should be deleted, as it's a dead giveaway of the source.Konczewski 21:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not a cut and paste if it were it would be a mirror of your quoted source. Therefore it has been reverted to its previous form. There isn't that much information on Faucette, and all sources used are listed in the resource section. --Basique 23:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
You know I wondered to myself how the hell did you find that page, very few people even know that Faucette exists. thought your name looked familiar, so I went back through every contribution you've ever made while logged in, because I knew i'd seen your contributions on pages i'd worked on in the past, lo and behold there you were on a lot of the comic pages i've edited. --Basique 00:17, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I came across the name while visiting another site, then looked him up Wikipedia to see what was written. I saw that the entry was lacking some details on DOB/DOD, so I did a Google search of his name; the site you've referred to was one of the first matches.
It's unfortunate that there's not more information on Mr. Faucette; he sounds like an interesting writer.Konczewski 02:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
He was a decent author, I used to own Crown of Infinity, Siege of Earth, and Warriors of Terra, they were interesting reads 20 years ago but they don't age well, and their plots were forgettable. --Basique 03:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:DC Comics locations and subcategories

Please don't add Category:DC Comics locations to planets and cities. It is the parent category of those categories and just serves to bloat it. --waffle iron talk 18:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I see, sorry about that but it makes sense for them to show up in the full list, makes it a lot easier on the user. --Basique 18:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
If every article had every parent categories of each category it would have dozens of useless ones and make categories unmanagable. You have to remember that categories are used not only to organize articles, but to organize other categories. --waffle iron talk 18:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I realize that, but having Arkham Asylum and Silver City show up on the same list makes things easier on the end user not harder, and allows for intuitive movement. Its about providing information to the end user as quickly and as easily as possible, not forcing them to dig down through arcane sub-categories. --Basique 18:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Breaking down locations into groups of cities, planets and so on is not arcane. Would you prefer to merge the whole heirarchy into a multipage 200+ item list? --waffle iron talk 20:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Originally removed those links because for some reason my user page showed up in the categories right after they were added here. I'm removing the link in the header and I am leaving the body link alone. --Basique 18:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Putting a colon before the Category: makes it a link instead of categorizing. I.E. [[:Category:Some category]] --waffle iron talk 20:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stalnoivolk

Where did you get this idea that he's a superhero? For all intents and purposes, he was always portrayed as a villain. Kusonaga 16:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Please sign your posts when you comment here Kusonaga. The Russians considered him a hero, the west considered him a villain. --Basique 15:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry there, forgot to sign. Either way, the Russians may have considered him a hero, but he performed villainous acts. Heck, he was even dubbed the butcher for crying out loud. That would make Superman a villain too. Kusonaga 16:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I see your point Kuse, he was best buddies with Stalin and all, and he was in the Red Shadows. Okay I'll take him off the list. --Basique 21:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Cool. --Kusonaga 22:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Janus Directive

All that had happened was that during my first edit one of the leading rows had beed erased. The only thing that I was intending on doing to your table was cutting the four lines of whitespace. Sorry about that. --Xander the Potato Vanquisher 15:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I fixed it. --Basique 15:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joshua Clay

You do know that it is possible to ask a question without cursing at people, don't you?

Since you asked so sweetly: The Joshua Clay article was, at the time, thoroughly redundant to his part of the Tempest article. Doczilla 08:24, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

You don't get to make that determination kiddo. --Basique 10:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Look, we got off on the wrong foot. Whoever cut down the Clay information on the Tempest page obviously agreed that the two articles contained excessively redundant material. I don't care which got cut. The Clay article needed so much cleaning up that keeping the one that was already well edited seemed the better choice. Obviously you and I have a LOT of the same interests and both want Joshua Clay to look good.

P.S. I'll bet he's not dead any more. Considering how much Doom Patrol history was undone by Infinite Crisis and other characters brought back from the dead, it's hard to see how his death would fit into their new history. Come of think of it, he needs the same note to that effect as appears in Celsius's article. Doczilla 09:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

"Kiddo"? MCMLXIV. Doczilla 09:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Later . . .

So much for my trying to figure out how to get past the fact that I'd rubbed you the wrong way. WATCH LIST???? I just stumbled across that nonsense. You can't ask a guy a civil question and wait for a reply? Doczilla 10:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm on that watch list as well. I think it's safe to say: anyone that edits one of his favorite pages will get put on the watch list. The watch list is just a way of tattling and being immature about editing. If you can't respect other's edits sometimes (AT LEAST), you shouldn't be on Wikipedia. Doczilla, don't let it get to you. Just ignore it, and keep editing like normal. If he continues the watch list, we can use things listed in Wikipedia:Resolving disputes RobJ1981 17:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template: Superman

Edits made as per your suggestion, but I left all Characters in one line, as two looks clumsy and off balance. Please look and comment at the talk page, thanks. ThuranX 19:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Cool Thuran, but I didn't actually expect my suggestions to be taken into account withount a long group discussion. Are you comfortable with the changes? --Basique 21:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of black superheroes

Hi. Wikipedia articles are not to be self-referential, which is why I changed the header to one mroe in line with the style guide. Also, for your reference section, you should format your references into either APA style or MLA style. --FuriousFreddy 02:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC) Thanks, I'll edit the headers accordingly. --Basique 11:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Page Blanking

I'd like to ask you both something, when you looked at your respective pages after the edit were they blank? If a code error was at fault i'm assuming that the blank page would be immediately apparent when the page's cache refreshed after the edit. --Basique 15:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

That's the devil of it! It wasn't blank after I hit submit! I went back, looked at it a minute later to see if I did make one specific change I was after, and it was empty. And everything I tried to do to reset it did jack. And, in my case, just as I was about to appeal to the talk page, someone reset it. (Firefox error in my case). Scared the hell out of me. If you don't happen to look though, you might never notice. -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 16:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

That's wild, remind me never to mix Google and Firefox, thats like Mentos and diet soda. --Basique 16:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

FYI here's the warning you get on long pages:

Attention, users of Firefox with Google Toolbar: You may find that long pages are cut off unexpectedly while editing in tabs; please be careful. This issue has been reported to Google, and appears to have been fixed; please upgrade to the latest version of Google Toolbar.


-- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 20:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Watchlist

Nonetheless, it would be wise to conduct yourself in a more civil manner next time. 'Watchlist' sounds incredibly rude. Kusonaga 17:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

There's nothing rude or uncivil about using the term "watchlist" Kusonaga, and as for my behavior towards Duggy I was more than civil, and even offered an workable solution in the Monarch (comics) discussion thread which evolvled into a palatable form after you mediated the issue. It's true that I could I have used a less reactionary title, i'll agree with you there, but calling me uncivil is a bit much. --Basique 17:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not expressly talking about your behaviour towards Duggy, but the high-handed manner in which you instate a 'watchlist' is ridiculious. The term has a negative connotation to it when used to describe the actions of individuals (I seriously doubt you would like to be put on a 'watchlist' yourself). Therefore, it would be wiser to conduct yourself in a more polite (or as I put it, civil) manner, so as to not unnecessarily offend anyone. Like you have said yourself: It's polarizing. It easily reads as an attack. This is not about your methods, but the way in which you word yourself. That's what I meant with 'friendly'. Kusonaga 18:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I do agree with Kusonaga's sentiment here - The watchlist implies that the person is a vandal, and frankly, if that's the case, take it up with warnings on their talk page and report it through the normal channels. If it's not, then go to the talk page for the article and, if they don't reply their, the user's talk page. After that with no replies, all bets are off and I'll lean to calling someone a troll. -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 18:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
This is my talk page, and as far as i'm concerned the discussion is ended. --Basique 20:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
  • A watch list is immature. Everyone has a right to edit a page you work on, you don't own the page. If a bug happens, it happens. There is no reason to go off on someone about something they can't control. Accept others edits once in a while. RobJ1981 01:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I guess you didn't read the part that says this is my discussion page Rob? Go away now. --Basique 01:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Hate to break it to you Basique (really, because otherwise you are a fine editor), but the only page you 'have' is your own userpage. Your talkpage is a legitimate venue for people to give their thoughts on your behaviour. You can't try and forcefully shut them out by telling them it's your page, especially considering this is not in "your page", and it's not actually any form of vandalism (that you are 'allowed' to revert), otherwise, talk pages should remain as they are. If people want to discuss something that 'you' have deemed closed, they can, just like on any other talk page. Kusonaga 06:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I read that part, but anyone is welcome to post on talk pages (even if they are for a certain user}. Why can't you accept others opinions, instead of bashing them and telling them to go away because you don't like the negative comments? RobJ1981 03:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I didn't find your behaviour all that civil, and was close to stopping contributing all together because of your attacks. Your reverting of good-faith changes for no reason (Batman) or for changing reasons (Monarch - originally claiming that the information was already on the page, later saying it wasn't needed on the page.) Starting discussions and when they aren't going your way claiming they are over. Note, also, that my compromise wording remains and Kusonaga's "workable solution" is actually in addition to mine.
  • It seems you went on the attack over the mistaken Conan blanking but at no point mentioned that until you put me on a Watchlist (exept for the patronising claim that you were monitoring my spree and I should behave.) The Monarch stuff needed work and a compromise, and I was willing to work towards that - reverting with false reasons is not working towards a compromise, starting a discussion and then claiming it is over is not working towards a compromise. The Batman stuff was a correction of someone else's mistake, and did not need constant, repeated reversion.
  • There is also an implication in your remarks to myself and others that all changes must be passed by you before they are made. You come off as arrogant and overly-possessive of the pages you monitor. I have apologised for any heat or errors on my part, but have seen no change in your behaviour, and am worried that again and again new contributors are going to be the victim of your attitude, negating the friendly air that should, I feel, exist here. A lot of people, to varying degrees, are telling you this, but you seem to be ignoring it.
  • Your reaction to the Conan page was a legitimate mistake, and we've covered it, but I'd really like some acknowledgement that there was no need to constantly revert my changes on Monarch & Batman.
  • Duggy 1138 05:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civility, good faith and personal attacks

Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See Wikipedia:Assume good faith for the guidelines on this. Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. . I'm posting these in relation to your postings at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics, although I also notice this comment in your contributions which is unacceptable on Wikipedia. Whilst edting on Wikipedia can be frustrating, it is important for all users to adopt and maintain a civil tone when discussing issues. Steve block Talk 09:24, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

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