User talk:Basique/Archive 1

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[edit] Welcome

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and vote pages using three tildes, like this: ~~~. Four tildes (~~~~) produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Kukini 14:07, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks Kukini I'd like to stick around and help where I can. Basique 21:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Glad to be of help

Yes, this is all about being collaborative. Call me if I can help further. - Runcorn 18:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Greenlee.jpg

-SCEhardT 23:49, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image replaced

The original image has been replaced with a more verifiable replacement. Basique 01:41, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

See my talk page for reply -SCEhardT 01:55, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Nyumbani.gif

[edit] RE: unfree Image:Nyumbani.gif

REHupa published Image:Nyumbani.gif in a fanzine from 1978, that is where the original image appeared. Which is why the organization was given as a reference. The map was reproduced here http://www.dodgenet.com/~moonblossom/Iatlas.html and this was my source. Would you rather I changed the source to the website it was gotten from? Basique 16:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

The problem was not that you didn't list a source (you did), but that you claimed without evidence that the copyright holder had relinquished all rights to it. You have to assume that all rights are reserved unless there is explicit written permission by the copyright holder. —Steven G. Johnson 16:31, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I see, so should I change the copyright category then? Basique 16:33, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

What could you change it to? The problem is that the image is copyrighted and probably unusable to Wikipedia. There's not much you can do about it unless you can locate the copyright holder and persuade him/her to grant us permission to use it under the GFDL. —Steven G. Johnson 16:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Seeing as there is about a seven day wait in this matters how about I email REHupa and ask them for their permission to use the image? I'm pretty sure I can get the author of the Imaro novels to give his permission for its use as well. Would either or both of these do? Basique 16:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

That would be great. See: Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission. Realize, however, that you must get the permission of the copyright holder, which is probably not REHupa if they republished the map from a book, and may not even be the book author since it could be the publisher that holds the copyright to the illustrations. —Steven G. Johnson 16:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks, I'll send it off right away! Hopefully they will be able to get the permission we need. Basique 16:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Using Preview

Hey, thanks for your help on the Toph article, but some general advice for any Wiki editing: please use the "Show preview" button more. I noticed that you tested out the different sizes of Toph's picture, which is fine except you saved each test. This adds unnecessary entries into the article's History, possibly cluttering the database, too. So just a suggestion to keep things efficient, Preview is your friend. =) --Crisu 22:21, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I tend to do that a lot because i've had browser crashes that wiped all my unsaved data. Basique 16:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Firestorm

Take a look at my history and check if I'm a vandal. Careful with false accusations. Jason Rusch has his own article. Your edits have been reverted. —Lesfer ^(talk/@) 15:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• And I'll be reverting them back. Basique 16:47, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Great Ten (comics)

Your recent edit to Great Ten (comics) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // Tawkerbot2 04:20, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

• • Yes your stupid bot got in the way of a legitimate edit. Me changing a page I had created yesterday into a redirect because a copy of the page I had created was made today and their page address made more sense. Please disable this thing so that I can finish what I started.Basique 04:34, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

While it is a bot, this was not a true false positive. The problem is that, in converting the page to a redirect, you did not correctly format the redirect. The bot recognizes some of the more common mal-formed redirects, but it's impossible to predict every single way someone could mess up a redirect. And if the redirect is not correct, and not one of the bad redirects that the bot does recognize, then as far as the bot is concerned, the page has simply been nearly blanked, which is one of the most common forms of vandalism. Anyway, the page is now a correctly formatted redirect, so that is taken care of, and I have struck the above warning, as vandalism was obviously not the intent here. Sorry for the confusion and agravation. - TexasAndroid 12:56, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem Tex, and thanks for clearing it up. Heh heh someone else actually did correctly later on what I tried and failed to do miserably so no harm done. -- Basique 12:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor edits and edit summaries

Please see: Help:Minor edit

When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you. --sigmafactor 04:35, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Sigma I know how to use an edit summary. Oh and if you'd read my character descriptions and compared them to Newsarama you'd see that they were not direct copies. Basique 04:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Swapping minor words in and out does not forgive co-opting from another source.
Also, please read WP:OWN and note that just because you were "there first" does not mean that you have full control over an article or image. sigmafactor 04:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)--

Which is why I offered to move the content I had already come up with to the other page. Oh and do me a favor do not cite me any more Wikipedia rules, I read all the rules a long time ago.Basique 04:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] African characters in comics

Just want to say I've enjoyed teaming with you on the creation a long-overdue article. Nice work, and I look forward to seeing African characters in comics fleshed out more. -- Tenebrae 14:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for all your help setting it up, and if you ever need my help with anything just leave a message I'll be glad to assist.Basique 14:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Basique, and actually, I could use your help. Would you mind going to Talk:X-Men:_The_Last_Stand#Discussion_of_straw_poll and casting a vote for "Leave it alone, it's fine the way it is", beneath where you see my name? There are some crazed X-Men fans who have begun threatening people with NPOV complaints to Admins if anyone dares say anything negative about the new film, even if it's Variety or the Hollywood Reporter. If you can help in this way, that would be great. Thanks. -- Tenebrae 21:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem man will do! -- Basique 21:45, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Primal Force/Leymen

Following the link from Red Tornado, it looks like one is the comic book title for the other. Is there a difference that I'm not seeing? CovenantD 16:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Nope, didn't want to delet the Leymen entry completely just in case someone wanted to do something with it in the future, and since it already had tags I just directed it to Primal Force. Feel free to delete it.Basique 16:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd be inclined to remove the Primal Force as an affiliation since it looks to be the title of the book rather than the name of the group. CovenantD 17:19, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good, wasn't sure how the Primal Force/Leymen really worked. I was aware of the books, even leafed through them for the info on Doctor Mist but it never really took.-- Basique 17:22, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Thanks

Nonsense, apparently... you're welcome :) RadioKirk talk to me 16:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Show preview and Edit summaries

I was mainly just teasing you. I've seen the overall work you do and appreciate it. CovenantD 17:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Covenant, I've seen your stuff too and its damned good. Have a great weekend man! -- Basique 19:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First Black superhero?

Hiya, Basique. Good catch if the Panther wasn't the first Black superhero. (I know he wasn't the first Black series star in American comics -- the earliest known so far is Dell Western character Lobo, who had his own namesake series.) I haven't been able to track down any earlier Black superheroes in mainstream American comics. (What little I've been able to find re: All-Negro Comics has been vague as to superpowers, and that was a niche publisher anyway.)

Thanks for any help/info. Hey, it looks like African Characters in Comics is drawing some readers. Best wishes -- Tenebrae 14:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey Tenebrae, I inherited the unlucky task of updating List of black superheroes, and while updating it my research brought to me to black newspaper strips from the 1920's and 1930's that had their own two fisted heroes. The Panther is the first "Modern" black hero though, so you could use that. I'm also thinking of changing this page's name to "Black superheroes in comics". --Basique 14:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please stop removing characters from the LGBT category

Many of the cases you edit are well established LGBT characters (which stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, or Transgendered). I'd encourage you to read up on those categories to educate yourself on what they stand for and how they may apply to the characters. I'd also encourage you to check out http://www.gayleague.com/gay/characters/index.php to read detailed histories and sources on how those characters fit into the rich diversity of comic book characters. Perceive 23:35, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

First comment on my page in the correct order. Second If you are incapable of justifying an LGBT link with proven history, you don't get to spam that category. Spamming a cat just to build up your page is not the Wikipedia way, you need a lot more justification than your personal feeling that a character is gay, if it wasn't on teh page in black and white it doesn't get the cat, if you continue to put this category on pages where it does not belong, I will push for a review of the validity the category.--Basique 23:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

And third I know the history of quite a few of the characters you spammed, and just because the Gay League thinks a character is gay doesn't make it so.--Basique 23:41, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Many of the characters you removed have their LGBT history detailed right on the character page. And yet you still remove them from the category. Do you dispute what the article says? It'd also be helpful for you to check the discussion page in many of those instances to see what other users have to say about what is apparently a contentious topic. Some in particular, like Captain Metropolis, has two sources right in the article referencing the character's LGBT status. That doesn't seem to stop your rampage. Are you going by this in gut feeling? P.S. Please stop assigning ulterior motives to me and I won't do the same to you. Perceive 23:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Well what's interesting about that history in the case of Jenny Sparks, Hooded Justice and Captain Metropolis is that it was inserted by you. That's all the proof I need to bring that Cat up for review. You skewed the character histories using undocumented speculation. So the revert war is over, i'll just put your category and the pages in it up for moderator review.--Basique 23:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I never edited the biography of Jenny Sparks, Hooded History or Captain Metropolis. I was not the original one who put them in the LGBT category either. The only one I edited prior to today was Jenny Sparks, apparently to make her name fit in the "heroes without costumes" and "heroes without aliases" category in the alphabetical order of her last name. Your accusations are completely off. Perceive 00:02, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Done, and with pleasure. The proliferation of minor, minor, minor categories is getting way out of hand.--Tenebrae 02:56, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks man, and as always any help you need, just ask. --Basique 13:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Avatar: The Last Airbender character quotes

Hey Basique,

I believe you have recently contributed a number of character quotes for Avatar: The Last Airbender characters. I just wanted to let you know that there's currently a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Avatar: The Last Airbender concerning them, in case you'd like to put in any input. Prototime 05:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Cool but I didn't actually contribute the quotes, I just formatetd them. --Basique 15:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, well, then I guess your input isn't needed ;) Kidding, of course. Prototime 18:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Heh heh, no prob. --Basique 21:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits to Helix (Comics)

Hi Basique, didn't mean to offend when correcting the creator credits on Helix (Marvel Comics character). It's understandable you would assume the character was created by DeFalco and Frenz since Helix's first appearance was in their title; it's an assumption other sources on the Web have made too due to a lack of proper creator credit provided in the issue in question. However the reality is that Helix was created by the New Warriors creative team of that time (Skolnick and Zircher) for ongoing use in their own title. However due to a lack of in-print crediting this is difficult to "verify" by Wiki standards, and so it seems like this erroneous crediting will continue to be repeated.

Well we go by print credit, so erroneous or not his first recorded appearance in Maximum Clonage Alpha. Unless you can provide at least one verifiable reference showing Skolnick as the character's creator, credit will stay with the Clonage team. --Basique 17:27, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Found it via a quick Google search, at http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/helix.html --Get it write 03:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry we can't really use that, if you could find a news article, not second hand from a blog it would be okay. --Basique 03:20, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Spiderfan.org was already cited as a legitimate resource on the page... now suddenly it's just a "blog"? In any case it's the only source on the web that lists ANY creators for this character. The others you've cited simply list a creative team for the issue STORY. Unless you can find at least one verifiable reference specifically listing any "Helix created by" credit that contradicts this, it should stand. --Get it write 03:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Listen I didn't call it a blog, I wrote what I did because it is not a good enough source for creator credit that contradicts the creator credit in the actual printed book. If there was no actual writer's credit on the book then we could use Skolnick, but the book has a writer hence Skolnick does not get creator's credit. If you have a problem with that decision, go here and make your case to the other members of the Comics Project. --Basique 03:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Knight One

(→Official - how about we just leave it at knight one, the way it's been for a while now)

If you insist, its just not accurate.

Okay I'll remove the Knight One tag, and save us both the grief. --Basique 00:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

You seem like you know your Checkmate. I'd like to work with you to bring more of the original series to the article. (i.e. draw out the original structure with King, Queen... on down. Add Kalia Campbell, more on John Reed, etc.) - Jeffrywith1e 02:02, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem, I know my way around the original run pretty well, just haven't had a chance to update the history on that page, I usually work on building the obscure stuff. --Basique 03:26, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:A friendly suggestion

Stalking?? If you really think so, find a admin and report me then! Get a life, wacko! —Lesfer ^(talk/@) 03:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

No Lesfer, you get a life, seriously, do. --Basique 03:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)