Talk:Barbara Thiering

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[edit] "Supernaturalistic"

To the person editing from 68.126.153.92 and 69.110.93.205, please keep in mind that encyclopedias (and perhaps encyclopedists) in general tend to be a little conservative in their vocabulary. Please allow me to suggest that you provide a citation of the article's subject's use of this word and it can be inserted into the article as "...what Thiering calls "supernaturalistic"[reference]", so that it is clear that this word is coined by Thiering and not by Wikipedia. Thanks for understanding. Jkelly 22:15, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

REPLY:

Dear friend,

Simply look at M-W.com and you will see the term "supernaturalistic" listed as an adjective. I am the person who originally posted the Barbara Thiering article, based on information that I requested and received from Dr. Thiering herself, so please allow that word to stand. That particular sentence came straight from her.

The original (and correct) sentence is:

"Her academic books and journal articles have challenged Christian orthodoxy, offering a new answer to its supernaturalistic beliefs."

It would be an error to say "supernatural beliefs," because we are not talking about "beliefs that are supernatural." Instead, we use "supernaturalistic," which means we are talking about beliefs that (ostensibly) *refer* to supernatural phenomenon. That's a very important distinction.

So your earlier point about the term being supposedly coined by Dr. Thiering is incorrect. It is an established term, which is recognized by reputable dictionaries.

[edit] Pesher theory, Satanic Attack or Religion Novice

One could interpret Dr Thiering's pesher theory as a Satanic attack to discredit deity in religion... at best. Or one could simply chalk it down to a novice babbling away.

From St Augustine through 1,000s of saints and experts, deeper understanding reveals divinity to be real, including that of Jesus and heaven, etc.

The final proof then will be in the Second Coming which pesher theory would equate to only a human being who is a larger teacher of mankind; but when Christ comes again shortly and creates endless miracles, as healing across the entire face of the earth, such tripe as pesher will be seen to be what it is, babble, from someone who has no depth of understanding of religion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.247.22.103 (talk) 07:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC).