Talk:Barbara Bush

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Contents 1 Brother's mention 2 Blood descendancy in relation to Franklin Pierce? 3 Pictures talk 4 Redirect vandalism 5 Derogatory vandalism 6 Is she a time traveler? 7 Censorship 8 French talk 9 Super Mario Super Show and Mario Bros. Comic 10 Requested move 10.1 Survey 10.2 Discussion 11 Notable fact shared with Abigail Adams 12 disambiguation

[edit] Brother's mention

Mentioning her brother in the first paragraph comes across as a political attack. She is famous for being First Lady, not for being the sister of this person. If appropriate to include in the article, it should at least be later.

I can't imagine how that could be a political attack, but it's definitely irrelevant; I took it out. The fellow isn't notable for anything. BarrettBrown

[edit] Blood descendancy in relation to Franklin Pierce?

Barbara Bush is NOT a blood descendant of Franklin Pierce, but she is a member of the same 'Pierce' family.

[edit] Pictures talk

Perhaps we should increase the size of the article to accommodate all of the pictures in the article? I like multiple pictures, no matter how relevant to the actual "history" of the person as it shows a more complete picture of how this person looked. The "Nixon" and "Family" pics show how deep she is in the political circle, and Bush's political dynasty. WhisperToMe 00:24, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

The family pic was relevant, but she was off to the edge and I had to spend some 20 or so seconds looking for her. There should be a better pic. -Unknown

The Nixon pic is hardly relevant. So she attended a public function...that's hardly explained in the article. Maybe this is better. Don't think about adding irrelevant pics until there's enough room for them. They make the article look worse through whitespace and/or think columns of text, not better. --Jiang 00:31, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect vandalism

Someone redirected the article to Barbara Pierce Bush. That is not her common name and I have reverted the change. Mike H 03:24, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Derogatory vandalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Bush#Marriage_and_family

[edit] Is she a time traveler?

On the first page or so: She was born in 1925, met Bush when she was 25, and married him in 1945. I'll leave it to a real historian to fix this, if it needs fixing. -Unknown

[edit] Censorship

Please try to keep a balanced view not by suppressing opinions you do not agree with, but by adding passages that stress the positive side of Barbara Bush. It is easy to delete some other person's work, but more difficult to write about a subject of considerable interest. If you do that, your time will not be wasted. David Cruise 18:15, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

There is no doubt some place on Wikipedia for a discussion of Gulf War propaganda issues, but the Barbara Bush article is hardly it! She had zilch to do with it. The fact that she alluded to some of the perhaps-propaganda claims in her memoirs is worth at most a very small mention, which is what I edited it to. Wasted Time R 18:19, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi R. I agree with some of your concerns and I relegated bulk of the material on this issue to the footnotes. I would like this Wikipedia entry on B.B. be as informative as possible. There is a blank space in the subheading First Lady of the United States that should be filled by her role as the first lady in discussions with the foreign leaders, etc. David Cruise 19:53, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you move your material to Gulf_War#Invasion_of_Kuwait, or History_of_Iraq#Rule_Under_Sadd.C4.81m, or George H. W. Bush, where it would be much more appropriate? All that you're establishing here is that Barbara Bush believed the U.S. justifications for the Gulf War, which is hardly a revelation. Your user page says you were a professor who published a lot; I hope your academic papers didn't veer off-topic as badly as this contribution does. Wasted Time R 20:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] French talk

Il y a plus d'un âne à la foire qui s'appelle Martin. David Cruise 21:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Super Mario Super Show and Mario Bros. Comic

Since she and president Bush make a guest appearance in the old Super Mario Bros 3 show, and a parody of her, Barbara the Bush is mentioned in the comic, I was wondering if anyone would mind if I made a reference to this in the articles. I'm sure there are parodies of most major figures, so having a section would be nice, and it would encourage people to bring more to light. Charicatures provide cool information about public comedic views of the characters. Tyciol 16:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

[edit] Notable fact shared with Abigail Adams

Barbara Bush may be the second woman -- after Abigail Adams -- to see two U.S. presidents naked.

[edit] disambiguation

What exactly is the logic behind having this "Barbara Pierce Bush" at Barbara Bush, and having her granddaughter, also "Barbara Pierce Bush," at Barbara Pierce Bush? This seems like madness. john k 23:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)