Talk:Baglama

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There is nothing in History of Greece about why one might want to hide a musical instrument. Can someone add some information so that this article isn't such a tease? - Molinari 07:55 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

This is a ridiculous cross-reference. The history of baglamas belongs here. Not on History of Greece or History of music. Here. --Menchi 08:00 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Do you know anything of the instrument's history? - Molinari 08:03 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

No, I just passed by randomly and saw your comment. After checking out that article as is, it shocked me with its very illogical x-ref, so offered my support. Never heard of it. --Menchi 08:39 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Sorry about the goofiness with naming, I'm only familiar with the Turkish bağlama, and Wikipedia is weird about diacritics in titles.

When you order a baglama from a Greek luthier, they ask whether you want the bowl carved or made from staves, it can be either. I did a bit of a re-write of the Greek baglama section, and added a better picture for the Greek baglama. I hope the author of the previous picture is not too offended! The instrument shown is mine, and was made by Karolos Tsakirian. The Real Walrus 08:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, history baglama is basicly based on Central Asian countries, there are many similar instruments like in Kyrgyzyztan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan etc. Kopuz, dutar, dumbra, tanbur and tar (etc.) are the such insturments which are so similar to baglama. Probably Turks has taken that instrument from chinese people or maybe turkic people invented it earlier. here on the following, there is a site about a uzbek musician: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/awards2005/profile_sevaranazarkhan.shtml - Cem

Since they are such different instruments, maybe there should be separate pages for the Greek baglama and the other kinds? Just a thought, and it needs a more experienced editor than I am... The Real Walrus 10:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

They are not such different instruments at all, just Greeks like to disassociate anything remotely connected with a Turkish heritage, such as the Zeybek dance, too. The derivative is the same. They are variations of the same instrument that have developed in different cultures. But as most the editors, and Wikipedia for that matter, are biased towards anything Greek and dance to nationalist hellene tunes, anything is possible. 82.145.231.214 20:41, 29 October 2006 (UTC)