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[edit] Archived talk

[edit] CFD:University shootings

I saw your comments on that discussion. Thanks for backing it. Equinox137 09:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bonay Bolay

I've added the redirects for these words to pu-erh tea. What I meant was that I thought someone moved the original redirects from **** to ****_tea. Can't say I've seen the words on tea boxes, but then again the teas I buy usually do not come with English labels. I'll ask my Cantonese friends about the bo"yi" v.s. bo"lay" question. Sjschen 22:59, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I'll put that into the page when I have access to a computer where I can set chinese typing. I've had the foojoy stuff before. It's not bad, but to me it's always a bit too "composty" for enjoyment. If you are interested, try the stuff here and in particular, this. Sjschen 23:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Copy and pasted the characters in. My opinion (and solely mine) on Pu-erh's popularity in Hongkong is that they have some of the easiest access to much of the teas from Yunnan and due to demand has become popularized and even,"hyped" up worldwide. I would not say it's not popular in Yunnan, if that were the case the tradition for tea production would not have been passed on in the "low" periods. Still, currently much of the good stuff produced is shipped out of Yunnan, so I don't know how much access the population there has to good pu-erh tea. Sjschen 23:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Thanks

Oh, it's no problem for me, either way. My only concern is that the tag adds you into Category:Requests for unblock, and if you're not blocked, then... well, you get the idea, I bet. :) If you'd like to keep the tag all nice and pretty, I suppose you could subst it and just remove the category tag (or let me know and I could do it for you). As it is now seems fine, but if you'd like to just remove it completely, I won't call the wikicops on you. Luna Santin 00:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Kung Pao Chicken

No, the rm tag was placed on the article because the text is a direct copy of the linked website. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.16.164.253 (talk • contribs).

My apologies... thanks for the clarification on that, I've just seen several pages in the past few days where that had to be done. Marrilpet 00:58, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FUC

I really don't know if they're planning to go that route or not, but, as I said on the FUC talk page today, this "totally free" thing is a pipe dream they're going to still be chasing ten or more years from now. Ironically, "fair use" images are probably the safest stuff they have, because it's pretty easy to source them. The images under the various licenses will be the first to get attacked in any sort of legal argument because there's some ambiguity. This group of admins (and it appears to be a pretty small but vocal group) haven't quite figured out that idealistically wanting something and reality rarely align. -- ChadScott 03:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] guzheng techniques

I've put back the sentence (rephrased). It's just I prefer a more absolute interpretation of music, I don't know if that's the right word, you know the idea of music of being music itself, not that music can't evoke certain feelings or imagery. Also expressing waterfalls etc is open to POV, and I though it might be better to be as objective as possible. LDHan 18:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, there is certainly a programmatic element to much of Chinese music that goes back centuries, eg the pipa piece Ambush on all sides. LDHan 20:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andres Quintana Roo

Ok first time putting something in discussion but here I go. Thanks for the quick edit on the Andres Quintana Roo article. Alixb 14 November 2006

Your question left me thinking... "Quinto" means fifth it could be derived from there, but I have no idea if that would apply for "Quintana". As for the Roo it sounds more like a Nahuatl word but your guess is as good as mine. Quick question (probably in edit guide or something but can't find it) how is it you redirect if someone searches ie: "andres quintana roo" it shows you that there is no such article, because the proper name for it is "Andrés Quintana Roo", so how would you make it so if they type that it goes to the "Andrés Quintana Roo" article? thanks :) And nice to meet you too.

Alixb 17 November 2006

Thannks for the help, it worked :) Alixb 18 November 2006


[edit] Word capitalizations

I don't think the second words should be cap-ed. However I've edited them with cap. to be consistant. Sjschen 05:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

"Dian hong" is one word so the D should remain capped. However, I sorta rethinking Orange Pekoe. I've seen the P being capped in many places. Sjschen 05:57, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wolfberries

You're probably right about the idea that cooking wolfberries (wb) and doing so with oil probably allows one to get more of the nutrients in the wb. But this is sorta the same idea between eating tomatoes raw versus cooking it into marinara sauce. Cooking opens up the tomato cells so ones body can adsorb the nutrients. The oil used in making marinara sauce dissolves the lycopenes and other fun hydrophobic compounds, which also aid their absorption during digestion. By eating dried wb straight, you might absorb less nutrients from it, maybe. But that does not make doing so a dangerous act or even something "bad", it really becomes a personal preference. I mean, I'm certainly not going to give up eating tomatoes straight, whether in its dry or fresh forms. Sjschen 06:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links to images

 Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia! You recently added an external link to external image in an article. It has been removed because the link pointed to a non-encyclopedic source.

Per WP:IMAGES
Images on external sites can no longer be linked inline due to several reasons: inline linking to images on other sites is often considered "leeching" and is thus rude; allowing online image linking makes it easier for vandals to post images from shock sites; external images are often unreliable and may sometimes be removed by the webmasters.

Please refer to Wikipedia's policy on external links for more information.
--thadius856talk 06:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Links to external images should be avoided at almost all costs. Images which qualify as fair use should be uploaded to en.wiki through Special:Upload. Any public domain or similar license images should be uploaded to the m:Commons. External links to pictures rob the owner of bandwidth which they pay for in their webhosting — they receive no pageload — and may be considered bandwidth theft. You can find more about this at WP:EL and WP:IMAGE or the template above.
However, note that the process is not fully automated. It's semi-automated, meaning that VP2 loads the page diff for me and I choose whether to mark it 'Not Vandalism', 'Skip', 'Rollback' or Rollback plus a warning. The {{test}} template which I chose was the least harshly worded readily available. Perhaps it wasn't 100% applicable, so I've replaced it with my own creation above, which you may or may not prefer. Thanks. thadius856talk 06:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Erhu players

I think it's better and more managable if the main erhu article include only historically important and major players, that's why I move the list of players to its own article. Of course this would leave out many players who are no doubt brilliant and virtuosic, after all hundreds of players graduate from Chinese converstories every year. LDHan 20:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank! Funnily enough I'm planning to add more on Sun Wenming. I've got enough material to eventually have a separate article for him, I've got a book and also an article about him (both in Chinese), and there's an article on Sun Wenming on Chinese wiki, but unfortunatly it'll take some work to translate it all as my Chinese is pretty basic. LDHan 18:47, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Vladimir Tosic.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Vladimir Tosic.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

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[edit] keep adding my ip/signature

why do you keep adding my ip address to my latest comments at zhajiang mian? it doesn't really make sense to me - if someone really wants to see the source of a comment or edit, they can simply refer to the history page. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.232.100.151 (talk • contribs).

okay, in your reply you infer that it is "policy" or at least "customary" to sign all discussion commentary. not trying to discount you or attack you personally, but since this is the first time i have ever encountered such a claim, may i ask, if only out of genuine curiosity, where this policy is stated? --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.232.100.151 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Yeagley merger

I deleted the "David Yeagley" article in favor of the "David A. Yeagley" one. No need for merger. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Apologies

Apparently they're still working out the kinks in Vandalproof 2. My apologies. I've removed the warning, and I'll try to figure out how that happened. -- dhp1080 (u·t·c) 22:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GFDL violations

Hi Badagnani,

Thanks for the frank comment at Talk:Double bass#Plagiarism/Copyright Issues?. Made my day! The Electric violin page you have contributed to is also ripped off by koopal (around the date of your early 2006 contributions, at a guess) at http://electric-violin.koopal.com/. Pretty much all their pages are WP based, AFAICT (as far as I can tell), but maybe not all their photos. Photos are much easier to pin down, as there is a single copyright holder. The DB photo is mine, so I followed the DB one up (see discussion on DB talk). Later, I found form letters and recommended recipes via WP:MF, including how to do a DMCA take-down after several notices. You might want to follow this up for EV. I have also put a couple of notices around WP about some of koopal's other pages.

Cheers, Andrew Kepert 10:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

PS updated earlier message with links in response to your note. Sorry for being so oblique. Essentially, as it says on WP:MF, someone should follow up on the copyright violations in the koopal.com sites, preferably one of the contributors (i.e. copyright holders) of each affected wikipedia page. I was suggesting you might be an appropriate person for the Electric Violin, given you contributed to the page around the time it was copied, and you expressed displeasure at the same mob ripping off the Double Bass site. My message was terse, as I had just spent an awful lot of time learning about this (e.g. what I did in response to the DB page was not quite the recommended approach, but not incompatible with it) and was out of time. Let me know if you would prefer someone else follow it up, and I will put a note on Talk:Electric violin. All the best, Andrew Kepert 04:39, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re replacable fair use images

The ultimate goal is to have no fair use images on Wikipedia, or at any rate to have only fair use images for which free images cannot possibly be made - a person who is dead, for instance. The goal is that all images on Wikipedia be able to re-used by anyone for any reason whatsoever, including in material that disparages the subject, alteration of the image to make the subject appear ridiculous, inclusion of the image in pornography, or whatever. This is the overarching goal. I personally think that its a silly goal, but that doesn't matter. It is what the Foundation wants, and the Foundation hosts the Wikipedia servers and thus its desires get a lot of consideration. Wikipedia may be freely forked (copied) by anyone, and perhaps someday someone will make a version where fair use images are more welcome, but this encyclopedia is not it. The images which you are contesting could at least theoretically be replaced with free images, therefore I am deleting them. You may take these to deletion review if you like. Herostratus 18:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I have restored the images for the time being. I'm putting together an RfC to get wider input on the matter. I'm pretty new to image work and I don't want to do the wrong thing - although I'm pretty sure I'm in the right. But I don't know for sure, so I think wider input would be useful for both of us and for the issue as a whole. Herostratus 05:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Aulochrome.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Aulochrome.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

  1. Go to the image description page and edit it to add {{Replaceable fair use disputed}}, without deleting the original Replaceable fair use template.
  2. On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. ----RobthTalk 19:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Kousmichoff tea.jpg

[edit] Arguments for retaining image

1. This is a promotional image and such a tag is clearly allowed on Wikipedia; 2. This form of repeated delete trolling is extremely damaging and harmful to Wikipedia and its educational purpose; 3. The company from whose website the image comes has not complained and most likely will not complain about this use of this photo; 4. There are other, more pressing issues facing Wikipedia at this moment; 5. Not every editor can afford a digital camera; 6. This editor needs to cease what appears to be a vendetta against another editor strictly for the purpose of trying to teach another editor "a lesson" that is not improving Wikipedia one iota, and create his/her own content, enriching, rather than depleting Wikipedia. Badagnani 19:13, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

1. This is not a promotional image in any sense I understand. It is taken from a catalog web site, and there is no indication that the copyright holder has released the image under any license, or distributed as a promotional image eligible for re-use.
2. This argument has nothing to do with the question of whether the image is allowable.
3. Whether or not the company will sue is immaterial to the enforcement of Wikipedia policy.
4. This argument has nothing to do with the question of whether the image is allowable.
5. Immaterial argument.
6. Immaterial argument.
Moreover, this is a product on the market, and it would therefore be easy for someone to obtain a tin and photograph it. I see no reason not to delete this image. I have accordingly deleted the image. -- Donald Albury 03:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

I have created the RfC at User talk:Herostratus/Image RfC. I've posted it on two places at Wikipedia:Requests for comment (under Policy and under Media, art and literature). Any publicity about the RfC anywhere else would be useful.

I pasted your comment on my talk page to the RfC, to establish the basis of your argument; you can edit it any way you want, of course.

FWIW, I am very dubious about the policy myself, for various reasons. I think the new fair use policy is awfully strict. But I'm just trying to do my job. Herostratus 05:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dessicated pig

Thank's can't take the credit though. Too bad you don't eat meat, or else this is certainly a good buy. How do you edit wikip.? Do you use IRC, an outside app., or just the web browser interface? --User:Sjschen

Gotcha. Your responses are typically super fast, that's why. There are a few other methods, especially made for computer geeks. ;) Sjschen 06:49, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

LOL. Oh no! You've been fully assimilated! Sjschen 07:06, 23 November 2006 (UTC)]]

Naw, into the mechanical monstrosity called "Wikipedia" ;) Indeed, bravo to the developers of wikip. If you have ever lived or have been immersed in East Asian (political) society, you'll really begin to appreciate the US Constitution. There is less "saving face" and more things getting done. Not to mention more transperancy and less visible corruption. As a good analogy of what I read somewhere, if you can see a mouse, statistically there are 12 other you don't see :P Sjschen 07:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm bad

Hi, thanks, but I'm afraid I was actually the one who started the CfD.  :-(

I noticed the cats after a bunch of Korean Lees and Yis on my watchlist were tagged with Category:Lĭ, which seemed a trifle inappropriate, and not entirely unlike filing a "Schmidt" under "Smith." Then I figured that *if* we were going to permit categories like this -- and these are the only such categories I'm aware of -- we need to have a central discussion about it. So I started the CfD, which I'm beginning to regret, as -- at least before your contributions -- the discussion has been less than elevated. I share your distress at the tendency of CfD (and all XfD) voters to pile on "delete" votes without a great deal of thought, so I thank you very much for helping to bring some thought to the discussion.

I've added some more comments to explain my reasoning, which is somewhat different than that of most of the delete voters; I would be grateful for feedback. Perhaps there's something which distinguishes the Chinese situation from the Korean? For example, were genealogical ties lost during the Cultural Revolution, leading to solidarity by surname rather than lineage? I'm afraid I'm rather ignorant on these matters... Cheers, -- Visviva 07:11, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shamisen

Thanks for the input! Yeah, I took about four photos of the guy, and it was a tough choice between the one I put up and the one I used in the reference desk (the two best, in my opinion). I thought the one I put up showed the instrument itself a bit better, even if it's not the greatest shot of the guy playing it.

And yes, next time I'm in Pitt Street and I see him, I'll try and find out who he is. Again, thanks for the comments. —DO'Neil 09:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] University shootings

I am assuming 'University Shootings' will be voted down and am preparing for that by adding the cat I did. I also know that 'school' is a generic term for all kinds of educational institutions I also see that all 'shootings' are not being included (and properly so), just 'killings' Thanks Hmains 21:47, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I vote as I see things and that is it. Hmains 22:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vietnamese wines and liquors

I'm even less knowledgeable about this topic than you. Perhaps I can help you with the correct Vietnamese spelling of certain words, but that's about it. DHN 06:59, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

My mom makes cơm rượu all the time. If I remember correctly, she would just get some cooked rice, then put some yeast on it (something in a ball that she gets from the store, I'm not sure if it's yeast). After leaving it to ferment for a week, we'd have cơm rượu, which is kind of sweet and a little bit sour...I don't think it contains much alcohol though, although that's probably the closest thing to alcohol I've ever consumed. I live in OC, but I can also ask the people in the Vietnamese Wikipedia for help. For Tết last year, a member at vi.wiki had some pictures you can look at: vi:Hình:Rượu nếp cẩm1.JPG and vi:Hình:Rượu nếp cẩm2.JPG, it's close to cơm rượu but it's not made from cơm but nếp (sweet rice) and food coloring. If I understand it correctly, rượu doesn't necessarily mean "rice wine", since wine made from grapes are called "rượu vang". Let me know which words you need the proper diacritics for. DHN 11:23, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Purple Heart barnstar

For being wounded in the line of duty, this purple barnstar is awarded to Badagnani by Herostratus 17:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
For being wounded in the line of duty, this purple barnstar is awarded to Badagnani by Herostratus 17:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


It does suck. Don't feel that your work is disappreciated, please. Nor that I don't understand your position - see User talk:Herostratus/Image RfC#General rant Herostratus 21:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please comment...

...at Talk:Min Nan. Thanks. —  AjaxSmack  07:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

...Min Nan does seem to be a widely used spelling and I wonder why the article was created with this name in the first place. We don't always use the pinyin if there is a better known or more widely used English spelling... Badagnani 07:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
One problem with naming the Minnan article is that the language has three names in the three major areas it is spoken. It is "Taiwanese" in Taiwan (which is considered a dialect of Minnan by Wikipedia listed under Taiwanese (linguistics)), "Hokkien" in Southeast Asia (a good generic "English" name and probably the most widely used but it is ambiguous since Hokkien is Minnan for "Fujian" and could imply inclusion of Minbei, -dong, etc., or that all speakers are from orginally from Fujian), and "Minnan." Another issue complicating things is that, to linguists, Hainanese and Teochew are considered Minnan but are speakers do not self-identify themselves as such. I guess Minnan was chosen because the bureaucrats in China and Taiwan both like it and it is relatively inoffensive across the political spectrum. —  AjaxSmack  08:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

Thank you for your arguments regarding "fair use" images. I recently had two promophotos tagged by user Chowbok and then they were subsequently deleted. Both images were obtained from freely available press kits and I supplied my argument for retaining them because of this, but it was to no avail. I appreciate your efforts to try to limit this "trolling". --OneCyclone 19:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaii etymology

Do you have a citation for your recent etymology edit on the Hawaii article? Thanks! --JereKrischel 20:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Agent X has a doctorate in Hawaiian language, I'll ask him to validate your finds. In any case, if you found the citation somewhere on the web, it would be helpful to put a reference there, using "ref" tags. If you need help figuring out how to use ref tags, please let me know and I'll give you some examples. --JereKrischel 03:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Paulet affair

Your help and comments on the new section in the Hawaiian Kingdom article are humbly requested. I'd also like some help with a better description of the Provisional Government folk. --JereKrischel 05:09, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I've tried out a few edits to the Hawaiian Kingdom article, being more verbose in the description of the people involved in the overthrow, hopefully you can add some perspective to the mix to see if it all fits. I greatly appreciate your help with all the articles, and hope I'm not being too abrasive when we disagree. Unfortunately, there is a fairly steady stream of POV vandalism regarding pro-sovereignty positions in all the articles related to Hawaii, and I've grown a bit thin-skinned. Your patience with me is humbly requested! --JereKrischel 05:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey Badagnani, I just wanted to thank you for inspiring me to improve more of the Hawaiian history articles. The issue regarding what terminology to use for the people who overthrew Liliuokalani has been particularly in want of improvement, and I think with some time I'll be able to build fairly decent stubs of the political parties of the Hawaiian Kingdom at the time, and use the proper "Reform Party" terminology. Most of my references come from Ernest Andrade, but I should be able to find other references in both the Blount Report, Morgan Report, Liliuokalani's book, and other online sources. I'll try to make a dent in the creation of the new articles soon, and your attention to them, and the other Hawaii articles is greatly appreciated. Thanks! --13:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re : Bad Eagle

I've restored it as a contested prod. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 20:12, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] yangshen tang

Is it yang shen1 (nurse body), yang shen4 (nurse kidneys), yang sheng (nurse health), yang shang (nurse wounds)? Knowing the sometimes bad romanization of the TCM "packs" it can be any of this (or none of them) Sjschen 21:00, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm also guessing yang is yang3 not yang2. That is harder find and maybe actually be even more confusing. Sjschen 21:02, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

There are about 460 Google hits for "養身湯", I guess that would be the "nurse body" variant. Wikipeditor 06:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

Thanks for jumping in. You may also be able to contribute at Image talk:Samantha Morton.jpg, which appears to hinge on the same issue. Postdlf 00:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FYI, and thanks for your comment

The page history shows exactly that, and there is now an Rfc, not begun by me, on same. Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abu badali

[edit] Photos of sculptures

Thank you for your help. According to polish copyright laws there would be no problem at all, if the sculpture is shown in a public place. However the photos were taken at the museum and so I need their agreement for publishing photos. I've contacted the museum already and soon I shall have their answer. Regards. Jakubhal 10:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Conan appearance?

Hey thanks for your editing! Nice work. Yes that's video of the Conan appearance. It's posted on Joe Jackson's website. Great stuff - check it out! Cebo22 04:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You earned this

The Sandwich of Exceptional Excellence Specially made with a meat-free Tofu substitute (Potato Salad of Congeniality cluster, 1st. class) In Panis, Veritas. Awarded to Badagnani for your exceptional contributions to David Blanasi, a new article desperately in need of help. Thanks! Doc Tropics 21:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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The Sandwich of Exceptional Excellence Specially made with a meat-free Tofu substitute (Potato Salad of Congeniality cluster, 1st. class) In Panis, Veritas.
Awarded to Badagnani for your exceptional contributions to David Blanasi, a new article desperately in need of help. Thanks! Doc Tropics 21:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Really B, thanks so much for your efforts on this new page. I got it started, but wasn't sure where to go. You filled it out with some useful content, corrected my many um,...oversights, and polished it nicely. Ya gotta love teamwork : ) Doc Tropics 05:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I adjusted your sandwich so you can enjoy it freely. I added a bit to Adam Plack to show good-faith, and I'll do more when my brain hasn't been so overtaxed in one day. At this time of night, I can't handle anything more complicated than some RC Patrol. This has been a lot of fun, and I'm sure there's more to come. Doc Tropics 06:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plack

Couldn't find any other info; sorry --FeanorStar7 11:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Block log

Hello!

I have been warned by another administrator (User:Khoikhoi) for posting this comment. User:Irpen has also posted a notice on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Personal_attacks.2C_harrassment.2C_baiting_and_pestering_by_user:Oden. As you are one of the users mentioned in my comment I would value your input into this matter.

Your input in the matter would be noted with interest.

Sincerely, --Oden 12:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Vernacular scripts

just incase you are interested in the discussion. No one else is really giving input.--D-Boy 03:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Replaceability guidelines

Per your "Agree" vote at Wikipedia talk:Images of living people I think you'll find my proposed replaceability guidelines worth a look. Daniel Case 06:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ralph H. Farris to comma or not to comma...

To be honest, I have no idea! Thanks for your help... there's more coming later.Cebo22 04:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Many teas

The teas at the site are rather pricy, however, the site is pretty reputable and the service is pretty fast. The vendor also knows his stuff and very knowledgable. Since fakes and low quality pu-erh teas, and teas in general, abound, it is not a bad thing to pay a slightly higher premium for decent quality stuff. I think I'll begin assembling a section in pu-erh about its collection and prospecting, both of it are highly interesting, if not fanatical.

You might also want to try this and this, which are both pretty good, if not somewhat pricy. Sjschen 02:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

The other two teas you inquired looks like different varieties of Oolong. Sjschen 02:09, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Note of caution. Getting into "good" teas is like getting into "good" audio equipment, you can lose you head in the process and yes, it is very very expensive :) Sjschen 02:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

There is currently a big craze over pu-erh tea that has been building up over the past decade and does not seem to be over yet. China has found a luxery item in one of it's lesser developed provinces that it can sell and export for a good deal of dough. It's not surprising that they are promoting it to everybody and ramping it up in their own population regarding it's reportedly good attributes. The tea has pretty much dominated the scene in the maliendao, the world's largest public tea market, with it holding a high place in the tea world when just a few years back it was considered a "low class" tea. It's funny how such things go. Prospectors and collectors are popping up everwhere wishing to "get into" the tea and perhaps make some money off its rocketing costs. Rediculous prices are being listed for teas, whether it is worth it's price or not, and quality is dropping for some manufacturers. "Fakes" for highly valued teas and brands are appearing everywhere, and since many are new to the tea, not many people can tell the real from the fakes, and as such the situation becomes even more mixed up. In short, it's a mess.

This tea tool is bascially something like an oyster knife, which is a dull, short, double edged dagger for prying open a brick or cake of tea. Will add it later Sjschen 14:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gunpowder mess

Gunpowder "shap"ed green tea is made in Taiwan too but I don't think anyone calls it gunpowder tea or zhucha. I guess the issue is whether gunpowder tea can be limited to being:

  1. Rolled pellet form green tea from Zhejiang
  2. Rolled pellet form green tea from anywhere
  3. Rolled pellet form teas from anywhere

I think I should put down that gunpowder tea is sometimes just used to describe the shape/form but the above issue needs to first be resolved. Sjschen 21:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] We're gonna have a problem here..

I have no idea who would know more about this. I'm also not sure Zhejiang zhucha is uppity enough to have experts, perhaps someone from CNNP (中茶) in charge of Zhejiang stuff? I walked around Chinatown and found that all the Gunpowder teas have very similar packaging and all state that they are from Zhejiang. Other than ToH, there is also Camel brand (or Camel breath brand) and this other one that trys to copy ToH's layout whose brand I can't quite remember. Sjschen 22:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I saw the first 3 sites, but I thought they were a bit shaky. I think the first one is what was used to "write" the varieties section. The second confirms that it's a rolled green tea, this can be used to substantiate the name gunpowder as being from the explosive stuff, it is still a bit shaky. The third one tells of the definition. that it's a green tea grown in various places. Together it seems to say that it's a rolled green tea from various places. But [1] it's a black tea. I like [2] and [3] they are the best we have so far. Sjschen 22:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

This is just too good. Sjschen 22:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Chinese surname categories

Hello Badagnani, Sorry for hurrying up in removing categories of chinese surnames from the article. It would be appericiable if you could do list all these articles accordingly and remove categories from the page. Regards, Shyam (T/C) 11:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I had gone through the discussion very well and there are strong arguments given to delete this. I had also gone through the comments given by you. But the categories are not suitable as English Wikipedia standards. The list would be more suitable for these case. These categories seem to be more trivial which does not fit to encyclopedia. So I think there is nothing absurd in my decision. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shyam Bihari (talk • contribs) 11:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Muira puama

Hi Badagnani - thanks for the note; I've added a taxobox, and also deleted the 95% of the article that was copyvio pasted in by an anon editor :-) MPF 11:44, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rolling tea

The big red round bags contain the tea being (machine) rolled [4] Sjschen 10:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Fanciful folk etymology? Oh yes, very very likely. But possible still though...perhaps editing it for emphasis will be a better? Or maybe just deleting?

The bags are filled up and tightly packaged. They are then rolled around in a circle. After a while, they are repackaged and rerolled, up to three times. No idea about the shiny. Do your leaves have a small long stem are are they just leaves? Sjschen 01:43, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you delete my comment?

I am trying to wrap my head around this. I'm open to explanation, please let me know. --Bobak 20:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Great, no problem -- I figured it was something like that. All the best. --Bobak 22:40, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
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