Wikipedia talk:Avoid trite expressions

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[edit] Questions and more questions

• Is this a call to dumb down, many of the articles? (such a cultural decline we are living right now!, even though literacy levels are the highest than in any other time in history)
• Is this a call to make shorter articles, to destilate them into what could be considered pure knoledge?
• To make them less confusing, perhaps?
• To make them prettier? (in the sense that they should be written like a grammar teacher would)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.215.169.199 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Misleading

Whoah... they really got my number with "due to the fact that". :'-(

I often feel my writing is verbose, but can't always figure out why.... "Due to the fact that" was one of the few blighters I managed to pin down. Still hasn't stopped me saying it yet :-/

That aside, I'm not convinced that "At the present time" is a good example of a non-concise expression. The problem is that "the present time" (of writing) becomes the past if not kept up-to-date, giving a false impression. But IMHO that's not a verbosity issue. Fourohfour 20:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)