User talk:Audacity/Archives/Music

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Metallica

Well, they actually do have a lot of good songs with messages; the whole Master of Puppets (album) is about themes of control (Battery is violence and anger controlling you, Master of Puppets itself is about drugs controlling you, and so on) is very well played out, and songs such as Blackened and Fight Fire with Fire are well written, subtly anti-war songs. I still like Metallica, only St.Anger was (to be frank) a very large dissappointment, and their approach into alternative rock does turn me off a bit. But nice talking to you, and feel free to come over to my talk page if you ever see any need to do so. Cheers! :D _-M o P-_ 02:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

List of Backmasked Messages

I have records with those songs by CMX (CD-single called "Jatkuu niinkuin sade" (Goes on like rain) and triple-CD-collection "Cloaca Maxima II") and Pääkköset (LP called "Pääkköset"). I also had that song by Juice Leskinen in C-cassette. I have listened them (forward and backwards) and they really sound like those messages have been intentionally added. Pääkköset said in some interview that they had added "satanic message" to their song intentionally. --juhtolv 06:05, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Weird Stairways to Heaven, punctuation

Hi. I watched (IIRC) every episode of The Money or the Gun and I have the CD. The choral version is even better than the Grand Opera version. I didn't hear all of the Rolf Harris version until I bought the CD, because I was literally rolling around the floor with laughter when it was aired ...

Thanks for pointing out that comma-outside-quote-marks mistake. Like many computer programmers, I unilaterally adopted so-called "logical punctuation" (=British style) when I encountered it; I need to remember that it's not always appropriate. (I prefer U.S. spelling and British punctuation, the reverse of most Aussies.)

Cheers, CWC(talk) 06:14, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Stairway / Copyvio

Hi. Song lyrics have inherent copyright. Yes, there are tons of lyric sites on the web, and you don't see much prosecution for it, but that doesn't change the underlying fact. As to how much is fair use, I don't know. I've included illustrative lines from songs elsewhere myself. One answer [1] seems to be "a line or two", but I don't know how definitive this is. In any event, part of an argument for fair use has to do with the purpose, I think: the excerpt must be just sufficient to illustrate a particular point being made. Since the article already links to sites that go over the alleged lyrics in detail (and at that point we aren't really talking about the subject of the article which is the song but instead somebody else's "research" on it), I can't see where including an entire stanza is defensible; additionally the structure of the dual-quotes section seemed to give some authority to the claims which I don't think is appropriate. Jgm 17:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I dunno, the clip just seemed to hang there; it seemed odd to have the backwards sample as the only sample in the article about a famous song (it would be interesting, by the way, to have clips from each section of the song in the description section, though I'm not sure that would be completely acceptable). There is also at least one reference to a page that includes samples. I don't disagree with your statement about getting the facts on the table, I'd just hate to see an extended analysis of this controversy take over the article as it seems to tend to (I suppose if that happens again we might consider splitting off a sub-article). If you think the clip belongs there and want to re-add it, I won't object. Jgm 12:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Response to backmasking comment

I noticed you said that alot of backmasking claims are fake. I happen to have alot of free time on my hands and can confirm all of the claims made by wikipedia users. feel free to E mail me anytime so i can give you links to wavs.Ted 10:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Ted

I was completeley unaware that the song "Mother" by Pink Floyd had subliminal messages in it, yet it Produced a very clear "I Love Satan". But you are right when you say that you can hear anything you want to.Ted 05:47, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Sound of the day

Great to see your involvement here. I hope you don't mind I changed to the "Advertising Record", as the other is apparently a video and didn't play for me at all except as a loud squeak.--Pharos 23:40, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Not at all - good change. Λυδαcιτγ 00:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Guitar portal

Hi Madder! Thanks for your changes on the Guitar portal. I also done a template “Articles related to Guitar” that appears in the portal and at the end of most of the articles related to guitar. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Guitar

The thing is that when I clic on “hide” there is a problem in the end of the Portal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Guitar Could you do something to solve it?

Thanks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tommaso456

Hi Audacity!

Thanks for your answer and sorry to have made a confusion my Madder… As you suggested me I will postpone GSOTD. There is still the problem with the "hide" of the template with Microsoft explorer but not with Firefox. Hablo espanol pero soy frances.

All the best,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tommaso456

WikiProject Guitarists

Hello! I would like to invite you to check out a brand new WikiProject, WikiProject Guitarists. It is aimed at creating and improving articles related to guitarists. Comments are welcome, and I hope you will decide to join. --Aguerriero (talk) 15:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

C&D.

Please stop moving the DOB pages unless you fix your template first. Folajimi 10:41, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Apologies are unnecessary; if you are unable to fix your template, refrain from making any other page moves. --Folajimi 03:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
    • According to the example on my talk page, the issue is unresolved. --Folajimi 03:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
      • The information in question is annoyingly redundant; it adds nothing of substance to the content being presented. Either give it the axe, or refrain from using it. --Folajimi 03:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Noticeboard

Thanks Audacity. I'd like to make the noticeboard into something useful for the community. Right now here's requests that have been there two years that have not been dealt with! I see you've been doing a lot of work on the music portal. Nice job - it's looking better and better. MarkBuckles 07:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Backmasking

Did you ever get a definite answer on the 30 second clips of backmasking we were talking about ?

Bearingbreaker92 00:30, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I saw that site before. Only problem is that its mindnumbingly slow.

Bearingbreaker92 03:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. I don't see the controversial point in this bit: "An example in less hardcore culture was the controversy over the theme tune of the popular childrens' television anime Pokémon. It is alleged that the words "Gotta catch 'em all", when played backwards, say "I love Satan" or "Oh, Satan"[1]." It is duly credited. From my point of view, you actually took it off withour proper explanation. Trencacloscas 02:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Songs

Hey Dan, I'd like to know what you think about this. I was looking at the rammstein page, and thought that on Sehnsucht not every single song needs its own page. Most of the songs on that page are described in detail on the main album page, plus the songs arent singles or controversial, so is there a need for all of these little album stubs? Tell me what you think about this.

Bearingbreaker92 19:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Is there a wikipedia special page that tells about what should be done about these? As an official resource? Also what should be done about the info in the main page, kept? or transfered to the other pages and delted off the original?

The only ones in my opinion of keeping are the singles and Buch Dich, as its a controversial song.

Bearingbreaker92 01:02, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


Portal:Music

Hi Audacity, I don't know if you noticed but the Music Portal failed in its nomination as a featured portal candidate. I think there's quite a few things we can improve with the portal, but I'm not sure how to go about doing them, and I was wondering if you might have any ideas? I listed a few on the talk page, so any feedback and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks :-) Madder 14:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

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