Talk:Astral Weeks

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Beefart says: It seems to me that the assertion that Mingus' Astral Weeks was not released until 1990 cannot be right. Can anybody find a date for the release of the original vinyl disc?

Lewiscode says: Original Vinyl was released Apr 14, 1964.

Beefart says: No, I don't think so. It was recorded that day. Even the Danes, with their legendary efficiency, can't record a sextet in the morning and have the discs in the record shops before 5 pm... So the question remains unanswered....

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[edit] Split

Should the section of Mingus's album be split into another article?

  • Yes
  1. Of course! Camillus (talk) 03:00, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
  2. Definitely - User:Lewiscode
  3. Immediately, no questions asked. Suppose there is a relationship between the two albums -- well, that's what wikilinks are for! :-) Mattbrundage 05:41, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
  4. Agree with Mattbrundage. - Akamad 07:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
  5. Obviously. If all other name clashes are split into other articles, why on Earth should this be an exception?
  • No

Beefart is opposed for the time being. There are a number of unanswered questions here. I suspect that there is an interesting untold tale buried in the relationship between the two albums. When these facts have been clarified by contributors, then it may be appropriate to separate the two articles.

Beefart is retarded for the time being. If we split off a separate article on Morrison's Astral Weeks, we can include a link to Mingus's album at the top and you can have fun "clarifying the facts." - Batkins 02:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Beefart says: Your entry is under "No" when you voted "Yes". Meeennwhile, nobody has come up with and ANY "clarifying facts". Funny about that. Facts are hard to find, unlike snide remarks, which any fool can suck out of his orifice. Besides, the split was made weeks ago. How come you didn't notice that? Beefart is shitfaced whenever he writes for Wikipedia. What's your excuse?... Captainbeefart 12:39, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cover

I think that Maria McKee has also covered "The Way Young Lovers Do," on her album, You Gotta Sin to Get Saved. Should this be added?

[edit] Personnel

Personnel

I think Van Dyke Parks added his idiosyncratic harpsichord on some of the tracks. Definitely on Cypress Avenue. Richard Davis may have played some pretty wild stuff, but listen closely to that harpsichord: typically Parks. Does anybody know if this is indeed the other 'Van'?

[edit] Awesome edit

On 05:49, 20 December 2005; by user: 68.77.140.193 - a huge chunk of material about the recording session. Wonderful stuff. The very heart of this article was created at that moment by that unknown user. All in one go. I sincerely hope that it's not a copyright theft. Well written information like that is what all articles in Wiki should be striving for. SilkTork 14:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wonderful edit, but still one big problem!

I am currently working on the French version of this entry. I own several books about Van Morrison, but the only thing I have ever read about the session that took place on October, the 1st is this sentence extracted from Celtic Crossroads, the Art of Van Morrison by Brian Hinton, Sanctuary Publishing: "After a morning booking, the very worst time of the day for improvising musicians, and at which the playing was so lacklustre that the session was abandoned, the reassembled cast caught fire again at dusk on 15 October." I can hardly imagine that someone who gave such an amount of (accurate) details could make up some of them. However, I am not converted yet, since these facts seem to appear somewhat magically. I mean, where do these details come from ? The influence of the English wikipedia is so strong that many other countries have already spread these pieces of information, which are possibly untrue. So I decided to hide a part of the text. I know I am not very good at English, I hope I have been able to make me understand, because this subject is a bit complicated. I am actually begging for international help! A quick answer would make me very happy.Noar 21:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Oct. 1st session

Clinton Heylin's Van Morrison biography (Can You Feel The Silence?: A New Biography) also mentions the Oct. 1st session and dates "The Way Young Lovers Do" from this second session.

The biography may have been the source for much of this information, but the wording has been changed and the information has been condensed. The book has some more interesting details regarding Morrison's troubles, like one anecdote involving the mob. Juicy stuff, but could be hearsay.L1759 20:32, 19 September 2006 (UTC)