Talk:Aston Villa F.C.

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Incidentally, when you search for 'Aston Villa' in the wikipedia search box, you don't get Aston Villa F.C. as a hit. You actually have to search for Aston Villa F.C. Does this make sense or is the search engine broken? user:dzof

The search engine is broken. RickK 04:01, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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[edit] Gareth Barry

I've just changed Gareth Barry's listing from defender to midfielder as that's where he plays most of the time. Feel free to change it back f you don't agree.

[edit] The Unprecedented Statement - Another first

Yet again the Villa are first to do something, yet again they give you a reason to be proud to support them, and yet again optimism rears its head. Lads, you can be proud of yourselves for being the first club of players to have the balls to raise a statement of dissatisfaction with your chairman. You can hold your heads high tonight. FORZA VILLA! Martyn Smith 18:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Should this section be in the main article if the club have denied it being true on their official site? Gretnagod 00:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

The club's article is just a weak spin Ucdawg12 06:11, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the unprecedented statement - until there is confirmation either way it is unencyclopaedic. Gretnagod 11:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

What kind of confimation are you looking for? Many respectable news organizations have covered this, where as the club site denies it with no quotes or sources. Ucdawg12 19:32, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Foreign manager

"Jozef Venglos - the first foreign manager ever to take charge of an English top-flight club " - There have been plenty of Irish pmanagers before hand. All of whom would consider themselves foreign, please change to something like "first manager from outside the UK or Ireland" --Dodge 14:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I've made these changes. Feel free to copyedit but please do not revert to the inaccurate statement --Dodge 01:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

This article could do with a cleanup.

  • There are far, far too many subeadings.
  • Per consensus at WikiProject Football, reserve and youth players should not be included unless they have squad numbers.
  • The all-time league positions, while valid information, take up a disproportionate amount of space. A graph like the one one Sheffield Wednesday F.C. would be a better alternative.
  • Transfer ins and outs should not be included. Wikipedia is not a news service.
  • Trivia should either be incorparated into another section as prose, or removed. Oldelpaso 17:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
As my removal of the transfers section was reverted, I'll elaborate on the above before I make any further changes. This article should be an overview of the club through its 100-odd year history, not a recap of recent events. In line with similar decisions at Arsenal F.C. and Liverpool F.C. to name but two, I intend to remove the section and replace it with a link to the "Transfer Deals" section of 2006-07 in English football.
Things like transfer news do, however, fall under the remit of Wikipedia's sister project Wikinews, if anyone wants to do a writeup there. Oldelpaso 19:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
  • There's too many external links. I've removed those already internally linked or blatantly commercial, but half a dozen fans sites is excessive, guidelines suggest one major one. Could someone with knowledge please rationalise the links StopItTidyUp 12:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Agree with the comment about the subheadings - as is the case for almost every football club article that AlexWilkes has edited. As further edits have been built around them though, it's more than just a case of deleting the headings. Markspearce 12:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Oct 2006 - Have reduced the number of sub headings in the history section. User:Villafanuk

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